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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Metus regem, on 14 April 2016 - 04:11 AM, said:

I will refer to an earlier post of mine on page 1....



As for the year, Rus has stated that if a base model of a Mech is 3053 or earlier, then it can be concerned fair game.

Russ stated and it was so...
lol

so he's making his own lore now? DEF /thread

[Mole]

I hope PGI reads this:

You will get my money for a Flea. You won't get my money for a Cyclops. I don't even care if you yank the MASC right out of the Flea if that's still the problem. I just want my Flea.

Edited by Mole, 14 April 2016 - 12:42 PM.

[Metus regem]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 14 April 2016 - 12:09 PM, said:

Russ stated and it was so...
lol

so he's making his own lore now? DEF /thread

I think they are, point in example, IS mechs are more or less on par with Clan mechs in terms of power and ability....

[Barantor]

Mole, on 14 April 2016 - 11:50 AM, said:

I think you're wrong about the Flea but Jesus H. do I hope you're right.

I believe Russ stated "but it's not the flea" in the town hall when he said there would be a new IS mech.

[AztecD]

Coralld, on 13 April 2016 - 05:18 PM, said:

But think just how manly and confident you will feel.

[ChapeL]

How about the modest Sentinel ?

[cazidin]

Virlutris, on 14 April 2016 - 08:54 AM, said:

I think that's exactly why, actually.

"Gotta go fast," and all that.

Speed is bad, kids.

Tordin, on 14 April 2016 - 09:19 AM, said:

Why Flea? Because, because... we got Urbanmech! Yeah, it might have been a more popular fan favorite. Still nostalgia/ role playing mechs, you know. No Wolf's Dragoons without flea? At least they produced them.

Do not speak the name of the Holy Urbamech in the same vain as the Flea. Repent, sinner, repent and pray that Comstock, our lord, may forgive thee for your heresay. We will also throw rotten fruit at you for about an hour.

Seriously though, yeah the Urbie is nice but you can atleast put some decent firepower into it. An AC20, some Large Lasers, etc. You just can't do that with the Flea. It's one of the lightest mechs at 20 tons and if you want to keep MASC you find yourself extremely limited on critical slots and available tonnage.

I appreciate Nostalgia but I will not pay $20-70 USD for it and I doubt that many will. There is a demand and I recognize that but still it's a pretty terrible mech for this game. If PGI does release it, however, then I hope that you and others can enjoy it and that it gets something special, maybe quirks, to make it a bit more relevant.

[Dawnstealer]

Flea would be awesome if they released the original 15 ton version.

And speaking of the Beowulf, the Mongoose would be a fun one.

Really, it almost HAS to be the Cyclops, but other fun mechs I hope are in the queue:

• Hatchetman
  
• Assassin
  
• Hatchetman
  
• Dervish
  
• Devastator
  
• Hatchetman

Edited by Dawnstealer, 14 April 2016 - 04:20 PM.

[thehiddenedge]

I know most people are calling Cyclops, because of the art thing, but I really hope not, for the simple reason that it's ugly as sin and really offers nothing new. A thought occured to me though. I know I heard Russ say they were going with a mech they already had art for, but does that necessarily mean that it is art that they have released? One has to assume they mock up several chassis before making a choice on which one to use. Somewhat complete art seems like it would be part of that process.

[Brimbooze]

If I had to guess, I'd say Cyclops or Flea.

If not those two, then I'd guess Wasp/Stinger/Valkyrie/Crusader.
If not one of those four, then I'd guess one of the other 3025 mechs we're missing which includes;
Javelin, Assassin (second choice out of the remaining 3025 mechs), Clint, Hermes II, Vulcan, Whitworth, Dervish, Charger(what I'm personally rooting for out of all the missing 3025 mechs), Ostscout, Ostroc, Ostsol.

And if they wanted to REALLY throw a curve ball then it's Hatchetman(yay melee!), Scorpion or Goliath(yay quad mechs!)

[Tordin]

Mole, on 14 April 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

I hope PGI reads this:

You will get my money for a Flea. You won't get my money for a Cyclops. I don't even care if you yank the MASC right out of the Flea if that's still the problem. I just want my Flea.

Aye! Agreed!

cazidin, on 14 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

Speed is bad, kids.



Do not speak the name of the Holy Urbamech in the same vain as the Flea. Repent, sinner, repent and pray that Comstock, our lord, may forgive thee for your heresay. We will also throw rotten fruit at you for about an hour.

Seriously though, yeah the Urbie is nice but you can atleast put some decent firepower into it. An AC20, some Large Lasers, etc. You just can't do that with the Flea. It's one of the lightest mechs at 20 tons and if you want to keep MASC you find yourself extremely limited on critical slots and available tonnage.

I appreciate Nostalgia but I will not pay $20-70 USD for it and I doubt that many will. There is a demand and I recognize that but still it's a pretty terrible mech for this game. If PGI does release it, however, then I hope that you and others can enjoy it and that it gets something special, maybe quirks, to make it a bit more relevant.

Oh I "sin" every day and still Im a good hearted mech pilot
I think the mascs for any masc capable mech should be removable, the Flea could be the case that push forward that logic.
I guess any pack with Fleas will be similar in cost to that of the Holy Trashcan Dont worry, I pilot the eternal mech from time to time. And rarely do enemies suspect an AC 20 "mini mackie" giving them dented metal.

Dawnstealer, on 14 April 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

Flea would be awesome if they released the original 15 ton version.

Say what now, I might have missed that bit on Sarna but 15 TONS??? Im advocating the 20 ton version, but how..? Amusing..

Edited by Tordin, 14 April 2016 - 03:07 PM.

[FLG 01]

Tordin, on 14 April 2016 - 03:06 PM, said:

Say what now, I might have missed that bit on Sarna but 15 TONS??? Im advocating the 20 ton version, but how..? Amusing..

XTRO:SW(I)

The FLE-14 was an attempt to cheapen the production and resulted in a very nimble Mech (50% faster than the -4 and with JJ). They produced 500 of them but the MechWarriors were not thrilled. Less than 20 survived the SW. So technically it is a viable option for MWO.
Keep in mind this was done with relatively now tech; no XL, no Endo etc. And with such advanced tech it would be big fun. However having only one HP (1x ML) would be a bit limiting.

I like it a lot, even if it is a pure joke.

Edited by FLG 01, 14 April 2016 - 03:29 PM.

[Chimera_]

In case anyone hasn't seen it yet, Russ just confirmed on twitter the new IS mech is NOT the Flea.

https://twitter.com/...750092328669185

Edited by Chimera11, 14 April 2016 - 03:32 PM.

[Virlutris]

cazidin, on 14 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

Speed is bad, kids.

Seriously though, yeah the Urbie is nice but you can atleast put some decent firepower into it. An AC20, some Large Lasers, etc. You just can't do that with the Flea. It's one of the lightest mechs at 20 tons and if you want to keep MASC you find yourself extremely limited on critical slots and available tonnage.

I appreciate Nostalgia but I will not pay $20-70 USD for it and I doubt that many will. There is a demand and I recognize that but still it's a pretty terrible mech for this game.

IIRC, MASC is 1 ton, 1 slot.

Veteran Locust nutspilots know how to strip armor like a madman in order to scrounge up the extra tonnage to pack 7 tons of weapons and gear after mandatory heatsinks, while packing an XL190. An XL180 frees up another half ton.

Assuming the same, or a lowet engine cap, that ton and slot are almost trivial. They're certainly easier to fit in there than an extra DHS, or several other 2-slot, 1.5-ton pieces of gear. Too easy. After the new heat dissipation quirks take effect, dropping a DHS for MASC would be a no-brainer.

As to whether folks would pay, consider that PGI doesn't need everyone to buy it. They don't even need most of us to buy it. A majority of players didn't buy the Urbie, but enough did. Nostalgia is a powerful motivator. Underestimate it at your own (albeit notional) peril.

All Russ really has to do once they figure out if/how they want to imement MASC 20-tonners is post a put-up or shut-up page, just like the Urbie. If enough folks buy in, $$$, game on. If not, he's got the easy out.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Metus regem, on 14 April 2016 - 01:54 PM, said:

I think they are, point in example, IS mechs are more or less on par with Clan mechs in terms of power and ability....

so yay any mech can me added now. screw the timeline

thehiddenedge, on 14 April 2016 - 02:46 PM, said:

I know most people are calling Cyclops, because of the art thing, but I really hope not, for the simple reason that it's ugly as sin and really offers nothing new. A thought occured to me though. I know I heard Russ say they were going with a mech they already had art for, but does that necessarily mean that it is art that they have released? One has to assume they mock up several chassis before making a choice on which one to use. Somewhat complete art seems like it would be part of that process.

they did the art FOR the Flea. It was battlemech 16 or something

Chimera11, on 14 April 2016 - 03:32 PM, said:

In case anyone hasn't seen it yet, Russ just confirmed on twitter the new IS mech is NOT the Flea.

https://twitter.com/...750092328669185

dash our hopes why doesnt he. So itll be the Cyclops. A mech that gives jack **** for new things. Woo

[Tordin]

Sigh.. The mackie, cyclops I dont want em. But enjoy them those who favor them and want to get em, PGI decides for the most part (Urbie crowd petitions an exception etc). Cant deny ANY mech a chance to become a part of MWO, and hey maybe even get their models transferred to the new Battletech game by Harebrained Schemes, now thats something

[Cerulean Knight]

If it's a Hatchetman or Axman, I think I'll die from sheer joy. They are unlikely, but, hey, one can dream.

A thought that I am surprised that no one has brought up yet is the first IS Omnimech, the Raptor: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Raptor

As you can see, 3052 is the year it started production.

Edited by Cerulean Knight, 14 April 2016 - 04:28 PM.

[Dawnstealer]

Tordin, on 14 April 2016 - 03:06 PM, said:

Say what now, I might have missed that bit on Sarna but 15 TONS??? Im advocating the 20 ton version, but how..? Amusing..

The mech first appeared in Battletechnologies, the magazine for Battletech that ran in the late 80s/early 90s. It started as non-canon, because 15 tons, but then they upped it by five tons and made it official. Guardian was another 15-tonner in this category.


All MGs.

[Hit the Deck]

Dawnstealer, on 14 April 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

The mech first appeared in Battletechnologies, the magazine for Battletech that ran in the late 80s/early 90s. It started as non-canon, because 15 tons, but then they upped it by five tons and made it official. Guardian was another 15-tonner in this category.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/thumb/f/fd/Guardian.png/520px-Guardian.png
All MGs.

That actually looks pretty cool.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 14 April 2016 - 04:26 PM.

[Alex Morgaine]

Not Dawnstealer, on 14 April 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

Flea would be awesome if they upscaled the original 15 ton version to 20 tons.

And speaking of the stuff, the Hussar would be a fun one.

Really, it almost HAS to be the Cyclops, but other fun mechs I hope are in the queue:

• Hussar
  
• Champion
  
• Hussar
  
• Dervish
  
• Bombadier
  
• Hussar