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[Shevy]

time to balance the streaks by tube number if they pose a problem

how about the larger the streak pack the shorter the range

keep the IS ssrm2 at the same range and add 100m to the clan ssrm2
then from there for each 2 rating you go up the range drops 100m

so ssrm4 are 270m
ssrm6 are 170m

this makes lights that have to skirmish streak crows possible

[Afuldan McKronik]

Splashdown gets it. We have the hardpoints in game, its not effective over 35 tonners. We have to pick either full light killer, a gimped hybrid with one or two streak launchers or full brawler, which isnt an easy build on the crow.

[Ghogiel]

Literally every skillcrow I have seen has been a complete an utter scrub with it.

I know personally in low tonnage 4v4 comp drops it is WAAAAYAYYYYY stronger than these face hugging noobs are able to do with it. I've rekt like 15 of these things so far and they all haven't a clue how to use it to save thier life. Literally every one has tried to brawl in them lol

[Afuldan McKronik]

Ghogiel, on 19 April 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

Literally every skillcrow I have seen has been a complete an utter scrub with it.

I know personally in low tonnage 4v4 comp drops it is WAAAAYAYYYYY stronger than these face hugging noobs are able to do with it. I've rekt like 15 of these things so far and they all haven't a clue how to use it to save thier life. Literally every one has tried to brawl in them lol

FIRE ALL THE ALPHAS ALL THE TIME. Right?

[Triordinant]

Just adjust the 'mech tonnage limit to 50 tons.

[Aiden Skye]

Reptilizer, on 19 April 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

That is right. But for that you have to go as group. In solo queue EVERY clanner drives a crow, but not every IS pilots a hunchie...

Wrong. This clanner doesn't even own a stormcrow.

[Afuldan McKronik]

Triordinant, on 19 April 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

Just adjust CLAN 'mech tonnage limit to 50 tons.

FTFY, with the QQing in this thread.

[Mad Strike]

I feel that this gamemode should be restricted to chassis that are made for the job: SCOUTING

There's nothing about scouting on a stormcrow or an oxide ....totally breaks the game mode.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Reptilizer, on 19 April 2016 - 12:14 PM, said:

For IS the game is now how to best kill crows.

-Hands the IS players a bag of stones-

What? They wanted some short range missiles, so there they have it!

Edited by Fox With A Shotgun, 19 April 2016 - 05:28 PM.

[JC Daxion]

So day one.. It's kinda obvious that streak crows would be out in numbers.. But there has to be any number of counters to this on the IS side..

I've been playing around with smurfy for a while, and found lots of neat PPC, and AC2-5 builds that very well could be crow killers.


One thing about this, is it's only 4x4, and 55 tons.. So something that you would never think about taking into a 12v12 match, when you are only up against certain mechs, that 40 point alpha is kinda pointless.


21-25, and range of 600-700+ with 4-6 DPS sustained.. a few ECM's, unless they are all running baps, then they can't target..

Make your mediums faster, longer range.. blah, blah... I know i am going to have a lot of fun trying to figure out nice counters for this. Perhaps the Tripple AC2 shadow hawk makes a come back.. Or maybe A wolverine, with a pair, or UAC5 and SRM's for up close.. I dunno what i'm gonna play, but i'm certainly not going to fear the Streakcrow.. I wanna figure out how to beat it!

Just like i did when clans launched,, I didn't cry about the timber, i figured out ways to kick it's arse..

[Johnny Z]

Alistair Winter, on 19 April 2016 - 12:21 PM, said:

If only someone had predicted that Streakcrows would dominate...

... and that there would be a lot of tears.

... and that this would perhaps illustrate that streaks aren't actually properly balanced.

... but nobody has cared because only light mechs have taken it up the *** for these past few years.


#salty
...

This is right. Streak crows have been one of a few serious problems with balance left in the game. Its their high speed, very high durability, clan streak packing abilities that make it stupid they havnt been balanced yet.

Roadkill, on 19 April 2016 - 12:03 PM, said:

There are 20 intel data points to find and each one takes 3 seconds to cap. A hunting pack is going to lose, and lose very quickly, if the other team spreads out to cap intel data points and then beats a hasty retreat to their extraction point.

Remember, not everyone has to make it back to the extraction point.

I think that this is a new mode players don't know how it all works yet. I don't know if this will work but I am going to give it a few tries. 4 v 4 is awesome. Like an entirely new game. Have to see how it all works and see if anything is updated.

[Gyrok]

Johnny Z, on 19 April 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

This is right. Streak crows have been one of a few serious problems with balance left in the game. Its their high speed, very high durability, clan streak packing abilities that make it stupid they havnt been balanced yet.

Streak crows have been left alone because a BJ1X laughs in their face and takes a side torso before they get a streak volley off...

[Naduk]

It's like nobody has ever driven a light with a ERLL before

[2fast2stompy]

Johnny Z, on 19 April 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

This is right. Streak crows have been one of a few serious problems with balance left in the game. Its their high speed, very high durability, clan streak packing abilities that make it stupid they havnt been balanced yet.

Eh, they're the hard counter to super fast, stupidly huge alpha lights that the assault pilots think are the biggest balance problem in the game. The problem here is that now you have a hard counter to lights in a mode where everyone expected to run a light without dumb fat kids to torment.

[Druarc]

Just run quick lights with long range weapons, and keep a nice distance between you and them, also use ECM and radar dep module. Then just wait for the PXH-2

[GrimRiver]

Had a few matches vs 2 streakcrows, 1 streakshadcat and ACH.

I let you guess who won.

Not every game can be "outrange the clan mechs" sniping fest, 1 or 2 of their lights will move on you and disrupt
things long enough for the streakers to move in.

Needs to be a 45 ton limit, I'd much rather deal with a streakadder then a crow.

[xe N on]

Really don't know whats the problem with streakcrows. Take 4x GRF-2N with ECM and 4xSSRM6+A and go for their legs.

Or, take AC-20 quirked Centurions.

Or, take Blackjacks.

Sure, the SSRM-SCRs have high alpha ... but it's all spread.

You simply should not appear with a knife (light mech) to a gun fight (medium mech).

Edited by xe N on, 19 April 2016 - 08:12 PM.

[Johnny Z]

Scout missions are being heavily trolled is all I know. I have been in exactly one scouting match where the other team was taking damage.

Synch dropping a huge problem also. Last scouting match was blocked from behind by a friendly mech not fighting. This is on top of the other team not taking damage.

Just got out of a 4 v 1. I will have to step up my game I guess.

Edited by Johnny Z, 19 April 2016 - 08:23 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

streaks are barely viable per se

it's the problem with the mode, not with streaks

they simply should forbid either to use streaks there or just set the limit of tonnage 5 tons lower to prevent from using scr

[El Bandito]

xe N on, on 19 April 2016 - 08:11 PM, said:

Really don't know whats the problem with streakcrows. Take 4x GRF-2N with ECM and 4xSSRM6+A and go for their legs.

Or, take AC-20 quirked Centurions.

Or, take Blackjacks.

Sure, the SSRM-SCRs have high alpha ... but it's all spread.

You simply should not appear with a knife (light mech) to a gun fight (medium mech).

The issue is not that Light mechs are obsoleted by Mediums. The issue is the Clan SSRMs being too effective against Lights. In non-scouting mode that's not an issue since CSSRMs are highly situational, but in a 55 ton max mode, it is a very different story.