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[SeventhSL]

When I started doing scouting I ran an SSRM crow and it utterly stomped the IS pugs. I completely understand why they complain about it. That said I moved to a SPL/SRM Crow after running into decent IS teams. SSRM just didn't cut it vs decent players in appropriately tooled mechs.

While I personally think it it closly balanced at higher tier play it isn't at lower tiers. SSRM6 is really noob friendly and gives clan noobs a huge advantage over IS noobs. I don't want to see new IS players walk away in frustration because they haven't learnt to counter SSRM. I'd be all for letting IS have SSRM6.

New players could have SSRM skill wars all they liked.

[Zolaz]

The best way to deal with streak crows is to all take ecm lights. When you encounter the pack of streak crows you run to the edge of the map and kite the crows away from your guys picking up intel. Then just bide your time till the drop ship shows up and run in at the end.

[LordNothing]

you know i think id rather put some streak2s on an ice ferret. then you could actually chase down those faster is mechs.

[Requiemking]

*Insert long angry rant about IS Terribads complaining about Streakcrows yet standing up for the overquirked Oxide*

[Lily from animove]

LordNothing, on 16 June 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

you know i think id rather put some streak2s on an ice ferret. then you could actually chase down those faster is mechs.

LOL streak 2's are you kidding? go to the trianing ground and see how long your streak 2 ferret needs to kill a light.

IFR goes best with small lasers or srms.

Edited by Lily from animove, 18 June 2016 - 06:20 AM.

[Kubernetes]

1. Bring at least 50 tons.

2. Use weapons that punch, not ones that burn slowly. SRMs and big ACs are where it's at. I used to run a Griffin 2N, but recently I've been piloting a Shadowhawk 2D2 with an AC10 + 4xSRM4. Cooldown is just a tad over two seconds, so I'm pumping out alphas almost three times faster than a Streakcrow. Four Griffins/Shadowhawks/Hunchies will absolutely own four StreakCrows.

[Vonbach]

Scouting is a waste of time for IS. Its the same thing every time 4 meta stormcrow streak boats. Splat, IS dies. How fun.

[Andi Nagasia]

O whose the Salty Steiner? SCRs arnt that Hard to Kill and a Pure SSRM Team is a Cakewalk,

[Czarr]

Scouting another mode killed by PGI's flawed design, does anyone actually play scouting missions anymore. I am guessing no

[Zolaz]

Kubernetes, on 17 June 2016 - 08:06 AM, said:

1. Bring at least 50 tons.

2. Use weapons that punch, not ones that burn slowly. SRMs and big ACs are where it's at. I used to run a Griffin 2N, but recently I've been piloting a Shadowhawk 2D2 with an AC10 + 4xSRM4. Cooldown is just a tad over two seconds, so I'm pumping out alphas almost three times faster than a Streakcrow. Four Griffins/Shadowhawks/Hunchies will absolutely own four StreakCrows.

What ... much easier to complain on the Forums to "fix" the game instead of changing my mech.

[Appogee]

I've been leveling a Wolverine 6K with 3SRM6A + 2MG in Scouting. But I think once it's leveled I'll go back to the Griffin 2N.

I wonder whether Power Draw will obsolete 4SRM6 (or Clan Streak Boats)?

[Joey Tankblaster]

So in summary we have now a new faction play scouting mode where high alpha splat-mediums dominate the battlefield because IS-lights don't stand a chance against Clan-Streaks.

Where is the scouting now?

[Moldur]

Vonbach, on 18 June 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:

Scouting is a waste of time for IS. Its the same thing every time 4 meta stormcrow streak boats. Splat, IS dies. How fun.

Joey Tankblaster, on 20 June 2016 - 11:06 PM, said:

So in summary we have now a new faction play scouting mode where high alpha splat-mediums dominate the battlefield because IS-lights don't stand a chance against Clan-Streaks.

Where is the scouting now?

What the ****.

What game are you people playing?

[Lily from animove]

Czarr, on 18 June 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Scouting another mode killed by PGI's flawed design, does anyone actually play scouting missions anymore. I am guessing no

the mode is fine the rewards are just bad especially when ther eis not invasion happening on the planet it's nothign than a waste of time or just for the small entertainment of wanting to make some smaller skirmishes.

[Kmieciu]

What I find amusing is that the potatolords that run Skillcrows often don't even know that Artemis does, in fact, decrease the time to lock by 50%. I almost pity them when I'm in an Oxide...

The funny thing is... IS light mechs getting bigger does not make it any easier for a Skillcrow pilot...

Edited by Kmieciu, 21 June 2016 - 01:15 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Kmieciu, on 21 June 2016 - 01:14 AM, said:

What I find amusing is that the potatolords that run Skillcrows often don't even know that Artemis does, in fact, decrease the time to lock by 50%. I almost pity them when I'm in an Oxide...

The funny thing is... IS light mechs getting bigger does not make it any easier for a Skillcrow pilot...

yes now the streaks can spread even harder ^^

[Ade the Rare]

What I like about scouting, as an IS player, is choosing quick play instead

[Danjo San]

Czarr, on 18 June 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Scouting another mode killed by PGI's flawed design, does anyone actually play scouting missions anymore. I am guessing no

Here ... We do ... love it, rock it.
Clans or IS, I don't care. both beatable. Quad Oxide Squad even makes the hardest streaknoob salty. You however need to know where and how to engage and focus. If they can focus you QOS will fall like rain. You need cover to duck behind to make them lose locks and take them out one by one. Never engage out in the open with a long line of sight!
Double Oxide, Double Raven 3L (2 SRM6+A / 3 SPL, ECM). Works as an alternative even when the terrain offers less cover the Ravens need to stick to the Oxides to keep them all in a bubble.
I disagree with the call for 55ton Mechs to take out the enemy. they are not fast enough and don't have enough punch to break the enemy ASAP. Also try chasing the last ACH when your top speed is below 100.
On Gather Intel you drop in a pack defenders drop in pairs of two. rush the first pair of two ASAP play 4:2, take them out again 4:2. If you are too slow, they will regroup and the result will be 4:4.
Of course there are other tactics as well for Gather and protect that play out. Like running full Spiders on Gather, and evading and diverting while you gather and escape into the extraction zone. Or playing Mechs with good maneuvarability and range and you hold the streaknoobs at 400m. This one works but is very hard to keep the control of the match. as they can escape and duck behind cover and lure you in close. think river city. River City is much better for a Quad Oxide Brawl run, shoot, duck behind cover, repeat.

You got to have a team though. You need to work together. You need to focus the same target. YOU NEED TO COORDINATE!
Scouting IS against Clan, you have to expect 4 Streaknoobs. Don't go in Solo, you will most likely be rekt.
Scouting is different from Quick Play, There is no Matchmaker that tries to match Tier Levels (and fails most of the time),
You have to expect full Meta. and to beat full Meta, you either need superior tactics or at least an equal Meta Level.
You can't expect the enemy to run Ice Ferrets, or Vindicators, or Urbanmechs, just because they are fun in Quick Play, does not mean they are fun in scouting. They won't help you. so please leave them in quick play.

[Contrex]

SeventhSL, on 16 June 2016 - 06:46 AM, said:

When I started doing scouting I ran an SSRM crow and it utterly stomped the IS pugs. I completely understand why they complain about it. That said I moved to a SPL/SRM Crow after running into decent IS teams. SSRM just didn't cut it vs decent players in appropriately tooled mechs.

While I personally think it it closly balanced at higher tier play it isn't at lower tiers. SSRM6 is really noob friendly and gives clan noobs a huge advantage over IS noobs. I don't want to see new IS players walk away in frustration because they haven't learnt to counter SSRM. I'd be all for letting IS have SSRM6.

New players could have SSRM skill wars all they liked.

Great point!!!!

In the last 50 Gather Intel matches, i lost maybe one or two on IS side. We even played against Kcom - Evil - Lords and bet them without problems.
What most people dont get (about 80% just call me newb for this) is just to go for gather intel if the mode is gather intel.

How to gather intel ?
- Get 4 PiratesBane ,
- Start spreading out gathering Intel
- Hide yourselfe while the countdown is running.
- Run into the dropzone the last possible second.


Even 6 skillcrows would not have a chance. Most of the time i run solo scout matches. I tell the team to get fast ECM mechs and they just call me newb...
3 minutes later they are all dead. - but 12-16 points gatherd by a solo LCT - PB!

[Lily from animove]

Contrex, on 21 June 2016 - 03:32 AM, said:

Great point!!!!

In the last 50 Gather Intel matches, i lost maybe one or two on IS side. We even played against Kcom - Evil - Lords and bet them without problems.
What most people dont get (about 80% just call me newb for this) is just to go for gather intel if the mode is gather intel.

How to gather intel ?
- Get 4 PiratesBane ,
- Start spreading out gathering Intel
- Hide yourselfe while the countdown is running.
- Run into the dropzone the last possible second.


Even 6 skillcrows would not have a chance. Most of the time i run solo scout matches. I tell the team to get fast ECM mechs and they just call me newb...
3 minutes later they are all dead. - but 12-16 points gatherd by a solo LCT - PB!

some people have a high success resitance, no matter what you tell, no matter how you show them, they keep being resitant towards any succesful maneuvers.