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[maniacos]

Clan mechs are way too strong on that tonage range. 55 Tons means you meet 3-4 Stormcrow laserboats/streaks or sometimes an Cheeta or Jenner. They shot you into pieces as soon as they see you. What IS scouting mech with an XL engine does match a Stormcrow in that weight class? Also the maps are way too small for real scouting. When I dropped in river city we quickly found the opponend who pushed us, on forest you had to run a little to seek chase other lights which was much more entertaining gameplay. However it's still again just a 4v4 skirmish and when one side is down you wait for the ship, but a greater map really pays when you have lights with speed as you only need one mech remaining who reaches the square in the last second.

Edited by maniacos, 19 April 2016 - 12:20 PM.

[C E Dwyer]

I thought that, the moment I saw the weight limit was 55 tons, but I ain't tried it yet, units still without a contract, leaders at work, so I can't see how it is first hand

[maniacos]

Lets see how this goes in a while. When clan vs IS scout matches are often empty it's clear that clan has a huge benefit and IS units will stay away from these matches and go 12vs12 instead.

[Juodas Varnas]

I've not played (and won't until the weekend) so i can't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit, if that was the case.

I mean, the very best Light and Mediums mechs are clan ones (when it comes to heavies and assaults it's much closer, to a point that i can't really say which ones are the best ones), but when it comes to Lights, ACH and Jenner IIC are the obvious top dogs, while in the Medium category, nothing even comes close to the Stormcrow.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 19 April 2016 - 12:33 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Juodas Varnas, on 19 April 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

but when it comes to Lights, ACH and Jenner IIC are the obvious top dogs

You are missing the Oxide which is still considered THE best brawling light.

Juodas Varnas, on 19 April 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

Medium category, nothing even comes close to the Stormcrow.

Actually, the only thing the SCrow can do well these days is Streaks (and boating Small Pulse), Griffin is better with just pure SRMs, and the Hunchback IIC is better at laser vomit.



That said, this scouting mode is seems slighted towards Clan, but I would be curious how well Griffin spam does against SCrow streak spam.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 19 April 2016 - 12:43 PM.

[maniacos]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 19 April 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

You are missing the Oxide which is still considered THE best brawling light.

However that's not F2P.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

maniacos, on 19 April 2016 - 12:44 PM, said:

However that's not F2P.

That also doesn't matter since CW is restricted with mech choices.

[Afuldan McKronik]

So no unholy quirked laser vomit heavies and balance seems to have shifted to Clan? Suprised. /s.

[TheCharlatan]

Hunchie 4SP wants to talk with you...

[CK16]

God forbid the Clans actually are good at something. It brings all the Freebirth scrubbers out claiming the old tried and true NERF OP CLAMS!

But as soon as IS gets an advantage in some large game play areas no one bats an eye and calls it's balance for stomping Clans....

[maniacos]

Afuldan McKronik, on 19 April 2016 - 12:45 PM, said:

So no unholy quirked laser vomit heavies and balance seems to have shifted to Clan? Suprised. /s.

I am actually favoring IS mediums and lights.

CK16, on 19 April 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

God forbid the Clans actually are good at something. It brings all the Freebirth scrubbers out claiming the old tried and true NERF OP CLAMS!

But as soon as IS gets an advantage in some large game play areas no one bats an eye and calls it's balance for stomping Clans....

It should be balanced, not OP on neither side

[MechWarrior849305]

So... IS overquirked laser meta-mechs like Black Knight and GHRs totally dominated 12 vs 12 battlefield, and suddenly CLANS MAKE THEIR COUNTER STRIKE!!! What a pun

[Afuldan McKronik]

Has none of the IS brought their strong mediums? Crab is damn tough. Hunchies bring massive firepower for a medium.

[DjPush]

Have you ever put a Gauss rifle on a Firestarter. You should. It's hilarious.


I'm sorry what were you complaining about? 3 hours after feature release...?

[Alan Davion]

CK16, on 19 April 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

God forbid the Clans actually are good at something. It brings all the Freebirth scrubbers out claiming the old tried and true NERF OP CLAMS!

But as soon as IS gets an advantage in some large game play areas no one bats an eye and calls it's balance for stomping Clans....

Well without the 12v10 system the IS does need some form of advantage since the Clans are able to bring more firepower in MWO than they would on TT.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Afuldan McKronik, on 19 April 2016 - 12:56 PM, said:

Has none of the IS brought their strong mediums? Crab is damn tough. Hunchies bring massive firepower for a medium.

Neither of those are their strong mediums, outside the Hunchback (4SP only).

[Alistair Winter]

Griffin with 4xSRM6 or 2xSRM6 + 2xSRM4 says hello. Blam.

But yeah, the 20 ton minimum limit is a joke. They may as well not let Locusts play.

DjPush, on 19 April 2016 - 12:58 PM, said:

Have you ever put a Gauss rifle on a Firestarter. You should. It's hilarious.


I'm sorry what were you complaining about? 3 hours after feature release...?

Probably complaining about something we predicted 3 weeks before feature release.

<shrug>

[wanderer]

Watching a Streakcrow run into a Splatgriffin is hilarious. Two salvos in and generally the Stormcrow is missing body parts while the Griffin is just banged up, and it gets worse from there.

I do think scouting like this will definitely be favoring medium brawlers.

[Afuldan McKronik]

Well maybe the ones not complaining are taking those strong mediums instead of lights and winning?

[maniacos]

MechWarrior849305, on 19 April 2016 - 12:56 PM, said:

So... IS overquirked laser meta-mechs like Black Knight and GHRs totally dominated 12 vs 12 battlefield, and suddenly CLANS MAKE THEIR COUNTER STRIKE!!! What a pun

So you complain that IS was OP in 12v12 and reason your celebration of 4v4 with that? YAY GREAT counter one OP with another OP instead of balancing both modes so that it actually would make sense to play the one or the other!