@puresin
I’ve read your post thoroughly and I’d like to inject some thoughts of mine towards various points in it. Hopefully you’ll bear with me on this one as you might just dismiss me being an Inner Sphere affeliate mercenary.
I think that you are very correct on the assumption that the Clans have way more advanced tech than the Inner Sphere and are also way better trained to use it properly. Even within the Inner Sphere Fractions you have great differences on the tech level or the access to it.
That said I have to reckon that the Clan also had their „Losttech“ moment, right before Nicholas Kerensky unified the breaking down SLDF into the the Clan societal structure. Of course it’s only to a fraction of the amount of Losttech the Inner Sphere has experienced, but nonetheless, it happened.
Let’s agree on the Clans theoretically being technically completely superior to Inner Sphere tech. Let’s even agree to a difference of a few hundred years on „not forgotten“ or even „further developed“ tech, starting on Starleague tech level. If all that is true, why weren’t the Clans just marching through to terra? Why weren’t they just wiping away any resistance whatsoever effortlessly? Because there is another element within the Clans, that went completely in favor of the Inner Sphere: The fighting doctrine of Clan warriors. Clan warriors are close to genetically bred to follow strict combat doctrines like one-to-one combat, non-interference refarding duels, lack of concept for deceipt and ambush, etc. They are bound to that behaviour to the point that they would rather die than to give it up. There are of course certain levels on how strong a certain Clan lives within those doctrines. But even the most strategically and tactically flexible Clans would not give that up completely. And that’s one major point where the Lore and MWO are different:
The playing style of MWO players piloting Clan Mechs.
Neither in PUG nor in FP have I’ve ever experienced strict Clan-like behaviour from Clan Mech pilots, neither friend nor foe. You might not like it, but the history you are building your argument on, clearly states exactly that this sticking to strict combat doctrine was an Achilles heel in the battle against the Inner Sphere. And even so far into the Dark Ages, the Clans still did not win over the Inner Sphere. As long as MWO Clan pilots will not mirror exactly and strictly the behaviour of their Lore counterparts, PGI will have to balance out somewhere else.
PUGs are always a wild mixture of fractions and chassis and yes, even I use my Clan Mechs when I feel like it. Heck, my favourite Mech actually is my Hellbringer and I have fought about 1/3 of my matches in it. CW/FP is a different story as it forces you on a fraction tech level. But right after the Phase3 release the dust has not setteled by a longshot and we well see how things develop there.
Puresin, on 08 May 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:
... It's like hansel and Gretel, who would read the story if the actual story ended with the witch eating them, no one, cause we all know the story to be that the kids get away? ...
This brings me to another point: Unlike your example with the Hänsel & Gretel story, this is not a game with a beginning and an end. It’s an ongoing game, trying to mirror the Lore you say so many of us know supposedly. I am not so sure about that last bit, I’d rather say that many are only now getting deeper into the novels and the background story because they stumbeled over MWO. MWO getting larger (e.g. Steam etc.) also widens the user base. And to survive, PGI needs more customers. In the end it is a business. And I for my part would like my provider to stand on stable ground. Not at any cost, but still ....
Puresin, on 08 May 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:
... So instead of balance this and that (catering to the whiney I want everything equal people)
why wouldn't you advance the timeline and do what would actually happen?
stolen tech eventually being copied but to a lesser extent....
...cause you are basically changing the inner sphere to the clans and making clans out to be the technologically inferior group....
Regarding balancing we can agree that, although there is need for it, they will never get it so right it might please everybody. But they are learning. CW/FP3 has just started. And you want less, but more profound and more though through changes than small rushed-in ad-hoc changes with every patch 10 times a year. Domination s**ked with the 3 minute timer? They listened and changed it within a few days. The game mechanics behind CW/FP are way more complex and not so easy to fiddle with. At a certain level you are undermining your own argument though. On one side you demand the adaptation of (lesser) Clan tech as selectable equipment, on the other side you complain about PGI changing the Inner Sphere tech levels to be Clan-ish and therefore making it superior to the Clans. I think putting out more Inner Sphere Clantech weaponry would only accelerate that. And please, show me the pilot who willingly chooses inferior material for battle? If we beef up the Clans to the level you are demanding (and completely ignoring the fact that pilots will fight Inner Sphere style in them) then litterally no one would want to ride an Inner Sphere chassis anymore. Even the most hardcore enthusiast will have had it after just being stomped upon by Clan god-level technology. Not a good prospect, at least by my humble opinion.
Puresin, on 08 May 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:
... but why bother when just about every (if not all of them) IS mech has a ******** amount of extra structure, quirks that make them fire ppc's faster...
...I also understand no foul language but why is the word r e t a r d e d blocked out? Since when did ******** become a bad word?
As in all forms of public expression, the provider of the plattform has a certain acountability over what’s said and done. I’ve been asterisked for t*u*r*d as it might be a very offensive word in english and I am actually (swiss) german speaking. So I might just not know that. I think your comment was rather intended to call PGI r*e*t*a*r*d*e*d than the the amount of extra structure you were complaning about. You could’ve easily used „insane“, „absurd“ etc. Anyway, I think they „censored“ the r-word because it is widely used as an insult calling someone physically handicaped to a mental extend.
Puresin, on 08 May 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:
...or they will eventually have nothing but non paying freemium players whining to make everything equal.
Well, I have to say that MWO is one of those freemium games that are fairly balanced. Not everyone can afford to spend a few hundred bucks every year and you still have a fighting chance even when you are playing „for free“. I’ve experienced actually that there’s more whining amongst paying players who they think they can buy themselves superiority and end up realising it’s just impatience relief: You get Mechs earlier, you amass stuff and points faster. Surprise when a free player that had to work harder to get where he is now, end up being better trained and harder to beat.
It feels like you would like the Inner Sphere just plain bow from your natural superiority, roll over and die. I give you that you are expressing the Clan attitude of a crusader quite well. But do not forget that you might only reach glory in defeating a formidable enemy. You might not want them weak.
Sorry for the long and pansy post. Here’s an Italian potato: patata
Edited by Thomster, 08 May 2016 - 11:40 PM.
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, smaller dhs, ******* omnimechs not seen on is side, ST explosion proof XL engines ffs.
