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[Wintersdark]

cazidin, on 15 May 2016 - 07:09 AM, said:

Up in the sky! It's a Steiner Orbital Atlas Insertion! No! It's a LAM! No! It's... just a joke. Lame.

Sadly, people post such things meaning them all too often, so please forgive my missing that

[Afuldan McKronik]

So, just like Atlas. Aim head for CT hits and chances for cockpit kills. Those look like it will actually be kinda difficult to get midline CT hits. Thats pretty narrow.

[C E Dwyer]

well if peoples speculation is correct, don't skimp the leg armour if your going brawly

[Bishop Steiner]

cazidin, on 15 May 2016 - 07:34 AM, said:

Or... were they? He reaches into a bag fastened to his Cooling Vest and retrieves the plans for this rare Urbanmech. "It took some a few favors but I managed to uncover and replicate this Lostech design!"

*Serious question though. Were there any significant modifications to the Urbanmech in TT?

Canon? Well there was a Nuke equipped Urbie......

Beyond that, my TT campaign was full of custom Urbies.

[cazidin]

Wintersdark, on 15 May 2016 - 08:05 AM, said:

Sadly, people post such things meaning them all too often, so please forgive my missing that

No apology necessary. My second comment was also intended in humor, to suggest that my initial joke was mediocre and to make a Superman-Battletech joke. I completely understand though. Some people have strange ideas about PGI. How're you doing though, Wintersdark?

Bishop Steiner, on 15 May 2016 - 09:16 AM, said:

Canon? Well there was a Nuke equipped Urbie......

Beyond that, my TT campaign was full of custom Urbies.

"Hastily adds Nuke Capable Urbanmech to Battletech Christmas Wish List."

[Lightfoot]

Usually the entire lower CT (the pelvis) is all CT or split between the two legs as with the Awesome. What makes you think (wish) the lower CT will be part side torso? The Kodiak is after all a Clan battlemech, not an omnimech. Don't you think the dev's would give the Kodiak enormously weak hitboxes like they gave to the Orion IIc? I mean they are already giving it structure quirks which I interpret as a failure in design.

Kodiak has to have more anticipation and interest than the Pretty Baby. I'll wait and see what happens.

Edited by Lightfoot, 16 May 2016 - 01:59 AM.

[Afuldan McKronik]

cazidin, on 15 May 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

No apology necessary. My second comment was also intended in humor, to suggest that my initial joke was mediocre and to make a Superman-Battletech joke. I completely understand though. Some people have strange ideas about PGI. How're you doing though, Wintersdark?



"Hastily adds Nuke Capable Urbanmech to Battletech Christmas Wish List."

Death Blossom 2.0.

[cazidin]

Lightfoot, on 16 May 2016 - 01:54 AM, said:

Usually the entire lower CT (the pelvis) is all CT or split between the two legs as with the Awesome. What makes you think (wish) the lower CT will be part side torso? The Kodiak is after all a Clan battlemech, not an omnimech. Don't you think the dev's would give the Kodiak enormously weak hitboxes like they gave to the Orion IIc? I mean they are already giving it structure quirks which I interpret as a failure in design.

Kodiak has to have more anticipation and interest than the Pretty Baby. I'll wait and see what happens.

The Orion IIC is weak due to geometry moreso than hitboxes, much the same as the Archer. PGI gave it minor structure quirks because some of the variants are intended to be or are limited to brawling. It just isn't the same to snipe the enemy from afar in your hundred ton war machine.

[Bishop Steiner]

Lightfoot, on 16 May 2016 - 01:54 AM, said:

Usually the entire lower CT (the pelvis) is all CT or split between the two legs as with the Awesome. What makes you think (wish) the lower CT will be part side torso? The Kodiak is after all a Clan battlemech, not an omnimech. Don't you think the dev's would give the Kodiak enormously weak hitboxes like they gave to the Orion IIc? I mean they are already giving it structure quirks which I interpret as a failure in design.

Kodiak has to have more anticipation and interest than the Pretty Baby. I'll wait and see what happens.

oh, IDK; stuff like this?

So yeah, no idea why it could be a potential issue....

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 May 2016 - 06:57 AM.

[Afuldan McKronik]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 May 2016 - 06:55 AM, said:

oh, IDK; stuff like this?

Isn't there some mechs where the waistband is counted as Rear Torso from the front?

[Bishop Steiner]

Afuldan McKronik, on 16 May 2016 - 06:57 AM, said:

Isn't there some mechs where the waistband is counted as Rear Torso from the front?

probably.

I didn't feel the need to repost or scour the whole other Topic on the matter.

IN general, PGI has consistently made questionable calls as to hitboxes, I suppose, is the point.

[Afuldan McKronik]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 May 2016 - 06:59 AM, said:

probably.

I didn't feel the need to repost or scour the whole other Topic on the matter.

IN general, PGI has consistently made questionable calls as to hitboxes, I suppose, is the point.

Yep, no need to dig for us when we could do the same. Thanks for posting those though. No wonder the ACH is so tanky for a 30 ton mech. That CT is extremely narrow.

[Lightfoot]

Bishop, those are all under performing IS mechs or Light mechs. I admit I haven't checked the hit-boxes recently though. I wouldn't expect a hundred ton Clan Battlemech to get the same hit-box buff treatment though. Just making a wild guess that it will be like piloting the Orion IIc, but slower with more armor. Lately the Clan mechs have been pretty squishy and never fixed so I will wait and see.

[GrimRiver]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 May 2016 - 06:59 AM, said:

And while you are doing that and the Kodiak is soaking it on it's arms and during your cooldowns feeding you 80 pts of UAV10 double tap love every 2.5 seconds between twists.........


Your precious Atlas will be another skull for my honeypot collection....

Because Atlas Arms cover a whole lot less real estate than Kodiak arms.

It may cover less but it'll take most of the blows and with the atlas's structure buffs it definitely won't be easy,
plus you gotta worry about your UAC's jamming on you when I'm lining that shot for the CT. lol

[Moldur]

I thought I had poor cover on Canyon in the Atlas. Ohhhh boy.

[Bishop Steiner]

GrimRiver, on 16 May 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

It may cover less but it'll take most of the blows and with the atlas's structure buffs it definitely won't be easy,
plus you gotta worry about your UAC's jamming on you when I'm lining that shot for the CT. lol

Only jam you need to concern yourself is the strawberry jam that 4x UAC10 will turn you into. With their cooldown, and numbers, the jam actually being an issue will be about a 1 in 100 occurrence.

[cazidin]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 May 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Only jam you need to concern yourself is the strawberry jam that 4x UAC10 will turn you into. With their cooldown, and numbers, the jam actually being an issue will be about a 1 in 100 occurrence.

Give the KDK-3 about a 10-15% increased jam chance for balance.

[Bishop Steiner]

cazidin, on 16 May 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

Give the KDK-3 about a 10-15% increased jam chance for balance.

what, you IS'ers afraid you can't keep up with the Meta already 100% in your favor? Need to cry to Papa Russ a lil more?

[Wintersdark]

cazidin, on 16 May 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

Give the KDK-3 about a 10-15% increased jam chance for balance.

or, they could just arrange for it to inherit the Warhawk UAC10 bug.

On the Warhawk, with a dual UAC10 build, when group fired they'll virtually always jam together. Totally defying any kind of probability, more than 9/10 when they jam, both jam. Given reduced jam rates, the probability of that happening at all is low, but happening a huge majority of the time? Yet, it does.
If it happens here too, I'm heading to PGI offices in person with an armload of pitchforks and torches.

[Green Mamba]

Reskinned Atlas...they are not even trying anymore