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[Quicksilver Aberration]

EgoSlayer, on 19 May 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

The link from MetaMechs is now SPLs instead of flamers. Ninja edit on their part?

He changed it because I made fun of him for it, and then he made it worse.....

[Mavairo]

BAHAHHAHA flamers.

Sorry anyone putting flamers on a mech, and then any community that then votes it the best mech the best in the game... has zero credibility.

[Mcgral18]

Mavairo, on 19 May 2016 - 07:27 PM, said:

BAHAHHAHA flamers.

Sorry anyone putting flamers on a mech, and then any community that then votes it the best mech the best in the game... has zero credibility.

I wouldn't go that far


They can ruin the combat effectiveness of a mech, and if you're SRM brawling...you're gonna be close anyhow.



They are no longer Terribad weapons...just barely weapons (with a certain niche of dealing heat)

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 19 May 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:

3 is amazeballs

It's a 100 ton mech which is comprised of 2 Hunch 2Cs mounted next to each other, with the same agility.



I found the 2 to be mediocre (but still better than many mechs out there)

really? It might have the same twist range, but I don't think it matches the 1) speed 2) terrain handling and tbh 3) as a regular HBK pilot with over 5000 matches, it better see a HUGE jump in twist rate when unlocked, because my 3 with Speed Tweak really is not in THAT agility ballpark. But I also wonder if the difference is also somewhat because of being about twice the size, so even with a similar rate, it's still takes longer to complete the arc. *shrugs* Dunno.

And my HBKs certainly don't come to a screeching stop on every 45º pebble.

It's a fantastic mech, but it's not Mikhail Baryshnikov meets the Terminator. Maybe Jean Claude Van Damme meets Rambo.......

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 20 May 2016 - 05:45 AM.

[meteorol]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 May 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

really? It might have the same twist range, but I don't think it matches the 1) speed 2) terrain handling and tbh 3) as a regular HBK pilot with over 5000 matches, it better see a HUGE jump in twist rate when unlocked, because my 3 with Speed Tweak really is not in THAT agility ballpark.

And my HBKs certainly don't come to a screeching stop on every 45º pebble.

He also never mentiones how the Kodiak is also as large as 2 HBKs and has a CT hitbox that would instantly drop the HBK to dogsh*t tier and make the whole forum cry for fixes.

[LordNothing]

i dont understand the 2, especially since the 1 can do the same builds. 2 has jjs but at 2 tons each i normally dont put them on my assault mechs.

[Aylek]

Khobai, on 19 May 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

This. They are literally ALL center torso. They cant tank damage at all.

Tanking capabilities are indeed dangerously bad from my experience. I am pretty sure you can't win a 1 on 1 vs a Black Knight atm because of this. I am curious whether this will get better once basic skills are doubled.

[kapusta11]

Aylek, on 20 May 2016 - 01:38 AM, said:

Tanking capabilities are indeed dangerously bad from my experience. I am pretty sure you can't win a 1 on 1 vs a Black Knight atm because of this. I am curious whether this will get better once basic skills are doubled.

Now try to convince Russ and IS fanboys that Kodiak's CT hitbox needs adjustments. They'll just say "You have quirks and XL400 - torso twist!"

That's what happens when you prefer to defend quirks instead of having a mech with shoulders that count as arms and the rest of the torso being split in 3 even parts.

Edited by kapusta11, 20 May 2016 - 02:02 AM.

[Aramoro999]

LegendaryArticuno, on 19 May 2016 - 04:50 PM, said:

Is Metamechs a joke now? They ranked this loadout as a Tier 1 build?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7a36ec7096583d6

That thing has 4 free tons on it, get some more heatsinks...

Edited by Aramoro999, 20 May 2016 - 02:13 AM.

[Aylek]

Aramoro999, on 20 May 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

That thing has 4 free tons on it, get some more heatsinks...

That's only because there seem to be issues with the MASC on Smurfy.

[meteorol]

Aramoro999, on 20 May 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

That thing has 4 free tons on it, get some more heatsinks...

Smurfy doesn't have MASC right now, which weights 4 tons and needs to be added to the build. Some put a TC4 on it to represent the MASC, he just decided to leave 4 tons empty.

[Aramoro999]

Aylek, on 20 May 2016 - 02:15 AM, said:

That's only because there seem to be issues with the MASC on Smurfy.

what it even has masc...OP as f***
pgi pls nerf

[Lupis Volk]

wonder what meta mech would think of this build? DAKKA BEAR

Edited by Lupis Volk, 20 May 2016 - 02:34 AM.

[Lykaon]

LegendaryArticuno, on 19 May 2016 - 04:50 PM, said:

Is Metamechs a joke now? They ranked this loadout as a Tier 1 build?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7a36ec7096583d6

Any reason for the 4 unused tons?

I would add a heatsink
replace flamers with ER medium lasers
add one ton AC ammo
add one ton SRM ammo

[El Bandito]

Mavairo, on 19 May 2016 - 07:27 PM, said:

BAHAHHAHA flamers.

Sorry anyone putting flamers on a mech, and then any community that then votes it the best mech the best in the game... has zero credibility.

My Firestarter-A makes good use of Flamers on top of 6 SPLs when brawling with Oxides in Scouting mode. Flamers are no joke, as unfortunate Davion dogs had found out. When all the weapons one has are brawl ranged--Flamers can be decent complementary weapon.

Unlike the MGs.

Edited by El Bandito, 20 May 2016 - 03:42 AM.

[Spr1ggan]

V4V4, on 19 May 2016 - 05:02 PM, said:

I don't know what your talking about. All the bears I've encountered die faster than any medium I know. If they don't all you need is an one atlas S and you see like 4 of dem bears drop dead quick.

Are all the mediums that you own or have seen been running stock std engines or something cos if your med is slower than any 100 ton assault then you are doing mediums wrong.

The only Kodiak with comparable speed is the Spirit Bear and only in short bursts through MASC.

Edited by Eth3real, 20 May 2016 - 11:42 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Up until this thread the norm for the forums in re the Kodiak seemed to be about: "all you people QQing about how OP the Kodiak need to take a deep breath." Though I for one saw very few rational posts about the Kodiak actually being OP -just lots of preemptive strikes arguments against such assertions.

This thread (and even a few posts from the past week) however, seems to have a taint of "all you people QQing about the CT being a death sentence need to take a deep breath".

The "its OP" or "its a death trap" extremes seems to be a wee bit schizophrenic, and business as usual when a new mech is released. So pretty balanced then?

Edited by Bud Crue, 20 May 2016 - 03:11 AM.

[Mcgral18]

meteorol, on 20 May 2016 - 12:24 AM, said:

He also never mentiones how the Kodiak is also as large as 2 HBKs and has a CT hitbox that would instantly drop the HBK to dogsh*t tier and make the whole forum cry for fixes.

Actually, I specifically mentioned the size with a hunchback comment.

I don't have a problem using the mech. Less agile than the old WubShee but only just

Edited by Mcgral18, 20 May 2016 - 01:41 PM.

[Death Proof]

I wouldn't try to tank in the Kodiak 3...too slow for how fragile it is.

Super Beaver maybe, though...with that speed boost.

[Moomtazz]

Khobai, on 19 May 2016 - 04:51 PM, said:

metamechs has always been a joke

New players could do waaaaayyyy worse than using metamech builds. It's a good resource.