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#21 Richard Hazen

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 08:49 AM

Orion, Orion, Orion.

#22 TercieI

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 08:52 AM

Jenner.

Jenner.

Jenner.

#23 Evan20k

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 08:55 AM

Warhawk, Executioner, Highlander IIC

Honorable mention to the Cute Fox.

Edited by Evan20k, 21 May 2016 - 08:55 AM.


#24 ChapeL

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 09:18 AM

View Postadamts01, on 21 May 2016 - 04:18 AM, said:

Mist Lynx, Raven 3L (Narcs suck, I want to fight), Ice Ferret


It's called the RVN-2X

Some of us like to use NARC on the 3L Posted Image

Edited by ChapeL, 21 May 2016 - 09:52 AM.


#25 Hit the Deck

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 09:24 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 21 May 2016 - 08:39 AM, said:

I guess I should've been a bit more precise with my wording, the A, AL and AH could use a little tweaking to be tougher, either through larger engine sizes or toughness quirks. Really a 300 XL is about perfect in the Centurion chassis, anything smaller than a 250 feels sluggish in that chassis.

The AL's laser quirks and its ability to mount 3LPL already makes it a great 'Mech so it shouldn't be quirked further.

It seems that it's AL's fault for having the ability to mount 3LPL so peeps can't use it as a brawler (because of the quirks). Nerf the laser quirks and quirk it as a brawler? I don't think that's a good idea because in the original config, that 'Mech is no brawler (in MWO standard).

As for the AH and A, I think AH already has sufficient quirks (add some accel and deccel quirks?) and I think the A is the worst of the bunch.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 21 May 2016 - 09:25 AM.


#26 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:15 AM

View PostHit the Deck, on 21 May 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

The AL's laser quirks and its ability to mount 3LPL already makes it a great 'Mech so it shouldn't be quirked further.

It seems that it's AL's fault for having the ability to mount 3LPL so peeps can't use it as a brawler (because of the quirks). Nerf the laser quirks and quirk it as a brawler? I don't think that's a good idea because in the original config, that 'Mech is no brawler (in MWO standard).

As for the AH and A, I think AH already has sufficient quirks (add some accel and deccel quirks?) and I think the A is the worst of the bunch.

Just shows why offensive quirks should be tied to the location. Those who want to run something BESIDE boring 3xLPL exist.

Have much more fun with 2xLPL, 2xML, 2xSRM4, personally. Would have even more fun if it could run a 300xl, tho

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:18 AM

Victor, Highlander, annnnnnnnnnnnnd...Commando?

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 May 2016 - 10:15 AM, said:

Just shows why offensive quirks should be tied to the location. Those who want to run something BESIDE boring 3xLPL exist.

Have much more fun with 2xLPL, 2xML, 2xSRM4, personally. Would have even more fun if it could run a 300xl, tho

I think weapon quirks should be tied to the weapon. Plus that opens up PGI for selling something other than mechpacks. Holly PPCs have less heat, cost more, quicker refire, etc.

#28 Metus regem

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:24 AM

View PostDawnstealer, on 21 May 2016 - 10:18 AM, said:

Victor, Highlander, annnnnnnnnnnnnd...Commando?


I think weapon quirks should be tied to the weapon. Plus that opens up PGI for selling something other than mechpacks. Holly PPCs have less heat, cost more, quicker refire, etc.


At the expense of less damage/shot for Holly PPC's... Donal PPCs should be the gold standard of PPC's.

I've always thought weapons should be set to X damage over 10 seconds, maybe 5 seconds due to armour values, this way we could have different versions of the same weapons, that my shoot faster or slower and give less or more damage a shot, so long as it balances out to the same average over a set amount of time as their class of weapon.

Edited by Metus regem, 21 May 2016 - 10:32 AM.


#29 Cyborne Elemental

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:32 AM

Needs quirk buffs or requirking.

1. Victor (they all need some serious help)
2. Kitfox (still has negative quirks.. what the hell?) Just too flimsy
3. Stalker (4H and 4N are ok, rest are complete garbage)
4. IceFerret?

Mechs that need structure quirks dialed down.. Because they're ridiculous.
1. Marauder
2. Warhammer
3. Black-Knight. (needs the CT buff I guess)

#30 FupDup

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:20 AM

Mist Lynx
Vindicator
Commando

#31 TercieI

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:21 AM

View PostFupDup, on 21 May 2016 - 11:20 AM, said:

Mist Lynx
Vindicator
Commando


I actually like the current COM quirks. They could be better, but they make them drivable in PUGs. Frankly, for a 25 ton mech that's usually dependent on heavy missiles, I'm not sure what more you can do.

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:27 AM

1- TOPDOG (no -heatgen quirks)
2- Dragon-1N (with the AC5 quirks toned down, useless)
3- Pretty Baby (quirks wont save those randomly thrown few hardpoints in a terribad chassis anyway)

#33 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:30 AM

View PostTercieI, on 21 May 2016 - 11:21 AM, said:


I actually like the current COM quirks. They could be better, but they make them drivable in PUGs. Frankly, for a 25 ton mech that's usually dependent on heavy missiles, I'm not sure what more you can do.

Just wish Jenny II didn't make Commie IIC obsolete.

#34 C E Dwyer

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:31 AM

Victor
Shadow Hawk
wolverine

#35 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:33 AM

View PostCathy, on 21 May 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

Victor
Shadow Hawk
wolverine

Any chance we could skip re-quirking the WVR and just get it redesigned to not look like a Walking Brick, instead?

Not many misses in Alex's MWO portfolio, but the WVR is most assuredly one of them. Anyone that thinks they look good probably think that Kathy Bates and Rumor Wilson are smoking hawt, too.

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:39 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 May 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

Any chance we could skip re-quirking the WVR and just get it redesigned to not look like a Walking Brick, instead?

Not many misses in Alex's MWO portfolio, but the WVR is most assuredly one of them. Anyone that thinks they look good probably think that Kathy Bates and Rumor Wilson are smoking hawt, too.

wolverine is one of the closer likenesses to the TRO, it is what it is, Beaker on Speed, all it's missing is it's hand bag and a held gun

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:43 AM

View PostDarian DelFord, on 21 May 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

Jenner D - CT ST Strcuture and a SLIGHT energy heat generation

Jenner K - Same as D

Jenner F Same as D

Enough said


Damn you crazy jenner is sooooo OP !!! Ask monerburner.
Like victors or cataphard 3D damn so OP

In fact i dont know what mechs really need quirks buff becose lack of weapons or too low hardpoint becose i dont buy them ...

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:51 AM

View PostCathy, on 21 May 2016 - 11:39 AM, said:

wolverine is one of the closer likenesses to the TRO, it is what it is, Beaker on Speed, all it's missing is it's hand bag and a held gun

Posted Image

vastly prefer the new TRO version (bottom right)

#39 Alistair Winter

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 12:01 PM

Almost started this exact same thread yesterday, but I realized I would rather have this discussion after the rescaling. Assuming rescaling has a substantial effect on more than 4-5 mechs. Which it may not. Time will tell.

But for now? I'll go with ammo quirks for Urbanmech and Shadowcat. Structure and armour quirks for Victor, or possibly +5 kph speed bonus for Highlander.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 21 May 2016 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 12:33 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 May 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

Just wish Jenny II didn't make Commie IIC obsolete.


Competitive relevance is no part of the appeal of a COM
IIC (see also Stinger, Wasp, Flea, etc.)





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