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[N0ni]

Linebacker announcement inbound.

[Bud Crue]

Alistair Winter, on 16 June 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

If we're going to wear tinfoil hats, it's potentially as a way to lessen the blow of so many new features which may or may not be super popular upon release. Kind of like breaking the news in an easy way, allowing Russ to explain the reasons behind the choices they've made, so people won't just go "Why did you change the game? I don't like this! I'm boycotting PGI forever!"

No tinfoil hat, I just think the history of these things speak for themselves. TH is for fielding soft ball "questions" from the NGNG guys and then a set up for Russ to announce a new mech. Since the mech for this 'cycle' (if you will) has already been announced, there is no reason for Russ to be doing a TH unless he has something else to sell us.

Consider P3, go look at the release notes. Regardless of what you think of P3 they did a really good job of explaining all those new features. Look at the community response in that same announcement thread. Certainly not ALL positive, but much of it was constructive. Now consider the townhalls that surrounded P3's release. Not only were the THs fairly disastrous from a community feedback perspective, there was very little substantive discussion in either of them.

So, given that history, I wonder what this townhall will be about because I don't expect "Russ to explain the reasons behind the choices they've made". When has he EVER done that?

[Quicksilver Aberration]

dervishx5, on 16 June 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

Man I can't wait for all the underhand softball questions that NGNG is going to pitch. God forbid they actually act like a real news agency for once in their sycophant lives.

It would be in PGI's best interest that NGNG not do so when ghost heat 2.0 comes up, because it at least would give them a glimpse into the potential rage that they will see in the PTS involving ghost heat 2.0.

[dervishx5]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 16 June 2016 - 10:56 AM, said:

It would be in PGI's best interest that NGNG not do so when ghost heat 2.0 comes up, because it at least would give them a glimpse into the potential rage that they will see in the PTS involving ghost heat 2.0.

SO HOW AWESOME IS PAULHEAT 2.0 GOING TO BE?

[Alistair Winter]

N0ni, on 16 June 2016 - 10:55 AM, said:

Linebacker announcement inbound.

That would definitely be a fun mech. Tiny front profile, 100+ kph with speed tweak, Endo+FF and lots of hardpoints (energy, missile and ballistics)

I would never pay money for it, but it would be a fun addition.

[Alistair Winter]

Bud Crue, on 16 June 2016 - 10:56 AM, said:

So, given that history, I wonder what this townhall will be about because I don't expect "Russ to explain the reasons behind the choices they've made". When has he EVER done that?

He did that during the first town halls, the ones that were actually well received, when he explained why PGI made a lot of seemingly dumb choices that were actually pressured by IGP, like the infamous gold mechs.

Listen, I'm one of the loudest voices when it comes to arguing that PGI has made a catastrophical error in limiting their interactions with the fans. We have a community manager that doesn't talk much to the community (and none of them ever have), we have vlogs that are highly irregular and seem poorly planned (questions are really weird, a lot of popular suggestions for cockpit items were ignored, etc), we have Town halls where players can't interact with Russ and Ask the devs was gradually limited and finally eliminated. We're left with Twitter.

To me, it's weird to even call it a Town Hall. From Wikipedia: Typically open to everybody in a town community and held at the local municipal building, attendees generally present ideas, voice their opinions, ask questions of the public figures, elected officials, or political candidates at the town hall.

Do you see any attendees who get to present ideas, voice their opinions and ask questions? Nope. It's not really a Town Hall meeting, it's more like a public interview, really. It's not even a debate. NGNG asks cherry-picked questions from their own members (who are a fraction of a fraction of the MWO community), filtered by moderator and Russ answers their questions and then says the things he's there to say.

So I'm not donning any kind of white armour here. But I do think it has some merit that Russ is going to explain all the stuff that is coming, even when you take into account all the criticism above.

[Bud Crue]

Alistair Winter, on 16 June 2016 - 11:09 AM, said:

So I'm not donning any kind of white armour here. But I do think it has some merit that Russ is going to explain all the stuff that is coming, even when you take into account all the criticism above.

I certainly hope you're right. I want you to be right. I want Russ to "explain stuff". I just am not very hopeful that he actually will.

Now, allow me to switch gears here and indeed put on the tinfoil hat...

Anyone else find it interesting that the announcement refers to "the new heat system" whereas Russ had previously referred to the "energy draw system"?

Edited by Bud Crue, 16 June 2016 - 11:17 AM.

[1453 R]

Alistair Winter, on 16 June 2016 - 09:33 AM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...e-17th-6-pm-pdt

Topics include the Summer updates! Command Wheel,

BattleMech Rescale, changes to the Assault game mode,

the new Heat System, and much more!

Unfortunately, they forgot to mention how we're supposed to contribute with questions for Russ. Easy mistake to make.

EDIT: I will post cliff-notes in this thread, so... bookmark it, share it on facebook and add me on instagram.

Appreciate that, Alistair. They always hold these damn things while I'm at work; I can't watch them real-time, but it tends to be days before a summary goes up, if it even does. Will be nice to know I've got some small chance of having a clue what everyone else is talking about before July.

[CK16]

No surprise here, simple questions....

1. PVE, what are we going to get, co-op? PvE support in CW? PvE campaign ect. Rough ball park of when?

2. We know that there is few mechs left, and very few Clan mechs left. How many mechs are left before we hit the scum at the bottom and jump to the new barrels?

[Wintersdark]

dervishx5, on 16 June 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

Man I can't wait for all the underhand softball questions that NGNG is going to pitch. God forbid they actually act like a real news agency for once in their sycophant lives.

why would they? They aren't a news agency.

But really, this is why I don't care if they don't gather questions. They wouldn't answer any I really cared about anyways, aside what they're already planning to talk about.

Bud Crue, on 16 June 2016 - 11:17 AM, said:

Anyone else find it interesting that the announcement refers to "the new heat system" whereas Russ had previously referred to the "energy draw system"?

He's called it that before several times too, because the penalty for exceeding draw limits is additional heat.

Edited by Wintersdark, 16 June 2016 - 12:16 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Wintersdark, on 16 June 2016 - 12:18 PM, said:

But really, this is why I don't care if they don't gather questions. They wouldn't answer any I really cared about anyways, aside what they're already planning to talk about.

Which kinda ruins the point in calling it a Town Hall this whole time since they just give soft balls or ask question they aren't able to fully explain when necessary (zero sum version of PSR question was a great example of that), but whatever.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 16 June 2016 - 12:20 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 16 June 2016 - 12:19 PM, said:

Which kinda ruins the point in calling it a Town Hall this whole time since they just give soft balls or ask question they aren't able to fully explain when necessary (zero sum version of PSR question was a great example of that), but whatever.

yeah, the zero sum thing was annoying. It's not hard to explain that

[Zolaz]

Let me guess ... the and much much more is another mech pack announcement.

[627]

Alistair Winter, on 16 June 2016 - 09:33 AM, said:

so... bookmark it, share it on facebook and add me on instagram.

[STEF_]

I would ask the same stuff I asked in last townhall.
Which were the questions I ask in the second last one.
Which were the questions I asked in third last one, etc.

Stopped worrying about townhall.

Won't buy a mechpack, sorry pgi ceo.

[1453 R]

*Buzzes through thread for real this time*

You know, guys not named Wintersdark or Alistair or Quicksilver and stuff...maybe Piranha would be more inclined to answer your questions if all your questions weren't "When are you going to stop f*cking up and do all this sh!t I've written down in my sig-linked forum post that is literally the only way to save MWO?"

Yeah, Piranha's communication recently has been bad. They need a community management team that actually, y'know, manages the community, and they need to pick a direction to start taking MWO and stick to it. But no, I don't actually expect them to answer the biased, nakedly hostile stuff you guys keep throwing at them, and in fact don't even want them to.

Maybe act like reasonable human beings instead of diarrhea-flinging rabid monkeys and you might get further. Reasonable human beings can make points and express their dissatisfaction in ways that don't involve fiery butt emissions, you know.

[Eboli]

Maybe they will announce the ability to use/purchase decals which has been coming soon for the last 2 odd years. This is being rushed in to help the balance books with flagging sales...

I won't bother attending but will read the summary by a forum member no doubt.

Cheers
Eboli

[wanderer]

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I will rage to no end.

You've been off your meme regimen, bro. Get back on the wagon.

[wanderer]

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Man I can't wait for all the underhand softball questions that NGNG is going to pitch. God forbid they actually act like a real news agency for once in their sycophant lives.

Bit of the ol' conflict of interest there, eh?

[Johnny Z]

wanderer, on 16 June 2016 - 02:47 PM, said:

Bit of the ol' conflict of interest there, eh?

Its a show. No conflict. Maybe players get some interesting info and a heads up where the game is going etc. Its not the 5th estate LOLOLOL.