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Poll: Mini map solution (100 member(s) have cast votes)

How should PGI handle the mini map?

  1. New mini map only (2 votes [2.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.00%

  2. Old mini map only (19 votes [19.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.00%

  3. Let players choose mini map in mech lab (29 votes [29.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.00%

  4. Let playeers toggle the minimap (27 votes [27.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.00%

  5. I don't care, as long as we keep the new map (2 votes [2.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.00%

  6. I don't care as long as the new map burns in hell (21 votes [21.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.00%

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#21 YoioReloaded

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 06:36 PM

I'm pretty fine with everything else on this patch, and I understand not everything can go smoothly especially when trying to innovate on something, so I'll try to be positive about it.

I don't think the new minimap allows for the same tactical dept as the previous one, but I can see the intent of having a broader view of the field, which is nice especially when manouvering in the long range (that's why we had the full-screen much, which by the way has the problem of impairing your vision completly), but when the fight turns into a brawl it's just a blob of blue and a few red spots.

I think a good solution to get the best of the three map modes (old minimap, new minimap and full screen map) is as follows:
Start with the old minimap showing just the near field, directional arrows and so on,
Press B and the minimap pops out a bit occupying a bit more screen space and it displays the entire field new minimap style
Hold B (or press B another time) to display the full screen map

Much like the zoom operates right now, this would allow for a much deeper gameplay without sacrificing intuitivity. And it also shouldn't be too much of a hassle for the developers to implement.

I hope this helps.

#22 Lanzman

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 06:52 PM

I like Yoio's idea. This new mini-map is just terrible but could be fixed with a zoom feature.

#23 Pampajoe

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:24 PM

I start play Games on PC in 1990. But in all these Time i never see a so confused Minimap. There are no Information Feedback for me (Seismic, Near by positions of Enemy´s and so on). And why sort the Minimaprotation. I need Information from a Minimap around my Position and the best Option for these is a "rotating" Minimap. The scaling is also bad. 2000 Meter around my own Position is intresting in MWO for all other we have the Battelgrid (never used but it´s in). I dont think that Units use the Battelgrid infight for giving Commands. There the commands come over TS or Voicechat.

#24 Steelfangs Draagun

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:27 PM

I post rarely so obviously this is a major concern...the mini map sux.

#25 Grey1

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:39 PM

This minimap is terrible and needs to be changed or I'm done.

#26 THOR HAMMER

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:59 PM

This is the worst thing that PGI has done so far orientation is beyond wrong Mini map is light years behind the old Mini map did PGI even test this ? . TERRIBLE who ever made this Mini map should be fired. NO MORE MONEY FOR PGI FROM ME till this is fixed or restored.

The old Mini map BETTER be restored by tomorrow.

Edited by THOR HAMMER, 22 June 2016 - 01:42 AM.


#27 Aries Ghost

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 08:35 PM

View PostStephen Grendal, on 21 June 2016 - 12:36 PM, said:

Other than the 2016 tournament, I'm done if this is the mini map you have.


And if it doesn't change after the tournament I'm through...... Stuck through for many things but that is just insulting.

I.E. Means I'm not playing, buying, or anything else other than training in the team I'm in if it stays this way.
Love the game but this is the saddest thing.......................

By the way how can I play the game with the new mini map to train for the Comp. when the mini map is different from one to the other. Seriously..........


I have to agree, I feel I have supported this game, but this radical change to gameplay has made me rething my support.

#28 EVC

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 03:21 AM

For once in five years we got a normal state of the art minimap instead of the old rotating useless thing, and everyone complains. What's wrong with you guys? The new minimap is way better than anything that was before.

#29 General Solo

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 03:38 AM

Why change things that are working?
Better to use them stuff for bug fixes and new content.
Than change something everyone PLAYING is satisfied with.

#30 Bonzai VI

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 05:02 AM

Of course everyone was using it it was the only map you had at hand...
Was never satisfied with it, always thought that the map could be much more efficient and now it is. With people crying that they cant see anything on it, do we even play the same game? Seismic works, uavs work i can see where the enemy is, i see if he is behind cover with the help of the minimap dunno^^

Also had the problem of orientation in my first 2-3 matches, but its okay now and its much more pleasant to play with the current map^^

#31 GutterBoy5

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 05:34 AM

ditch it .. its really bad. bring back old one it was fine.

why is it things that need fixing ..dont get fixed

& things that dont need touching get touched in worse possible way.

well done PGI.fail as usual.

#32 Veiled Cause

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 06:49 AM

I personally think the new map is okay. But the fact that I cant see **** of it kills it. I mean if you want to see the whole thing you have the battlegrid. Or if they wanted to get rid of it why not adding at least a zoom option for the thing?
There's also the thing that you cant see the way the enemy is facing, easily fixable by just adding a triangle to signal the way the enemy is facing (eather his legs or torso, whatever works)

But whoever got thought that it was a good idea of having an ant sized map to replace the old one deserves the wrath of the community. Until it gets fixed.

#33 Khosumi

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 09:09 AM

View PostEVC, on 22 June 2016 - 03:21 AM, said:

What's wrong with you guys? The new minimap is way better than anything that was before.


Tell me how you can look at your minimap and tell which way the enemy is facing. Pretty sure you can't.

#34 MookieDog

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 02:14 PM

What's wrong with you guys? The new minimap is way better than anything that was before.

Whoever created this map should be kicked out of a dropship leaving atmosphere. As in skipping across the planets high orbit, fall from a few miles up, and then crash into the ground, skidding along some kind of volcanic rock bed, (the sharp kind not the smooth kind) before they grind to a halt. After that they should be eaten by the local scavengers and then either regurgitated or excreted as solid waste from said scavengers. Then there should be some very slow decomposition in the hot scorching sun...

Edited by MookieDog, 22 June 2016 - 02:23 PM.


#35 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 04:12 PM

View PostHeretiK86, on 21 June 2016 - 12:26 PM, said:

Ok... really? This minimap is like adding the P-axis to a game that already requires x,y,z axis adaptation. I never complain and support PGI, but wow. Who tests this stuff beforehand???

Most were on vacation, that long dry spell of nothing from Russ and gang. They came back and Russ being the only QA person and having the minimap in his pile for over a week simply put his stamp of approval without a second glance... Posted Image

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 22 June 2016 - 04:13 PM.


#36 Stupendousman

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 04:43 PM

View PostEthak, on 21 June 2016 - 01:56 PM, said:

Okay so lets see, how bad did they **** this up:

Doesn't rotate with the players, as such it is disorienting

Zoomed out so far they make seismic sensors a complete joke, can't read anything from it

We already have a battlegrid, this new map is simply redundant and a worse version of the battlegrid

The minimap should give you information about your immediate vicinity, but it doesn't. Good luck planning out a route when you can't see the roads anymore

WHY DOES IT NOT ROTATE?

REALLY, WHY? I couldn't care less about always knowing where north is looking at my minimap, I need it to tell me where my enemies are in relation to me. But with this new map, I can't do it at a glance anymore. "Oh on the tiny minima it looks like he at my 5, quick, turn in that direc- Oh ffs no, he was at my 9. Woops. Silly minimap, can't be mad at you. Not.

do you enjoy reading small text like this, PGI? I know I don't. This is what it feels like to look at the new mimiap. Look at all this information I can fit in this tiny area! Wow! It's wonderful, isn't it? Is this what you wanted? Because this is what I'm seeing when I look at the mimnap, a whole lot of ****

Edit: I am not going to play this game until the minimap changes. It actually hinders my gameplay.

So on point!!!!





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