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[Foxwalker]

Introducing:
The Phoenix Hawk 3S - The 45 ton Locust

157 Kph without speed tweak.

Load out
355XL with MASC
Full Armor (-2 in the head)
3 Medium Pulse, 2 Machine guns.
2 Jump Jets

Stupid fun to drive,

[Sader325]

Foxwalker, on 22 June 2016 - 08:12 PM, said:

Introducing:
The Phoenix Hawk 3S - The 45 ton Locust

157 Kph without speed tweak.

Load out
355XL with MASC
Full Armor (-2 in the head)
3 Medium Pulse, 2 Machine guns.
2 Jump Jets

Stupid fun to drive,

3 unquirked medium pulses, 2 quirked machine guns.

The 3S is awful beyond measure. Even the masc wolverine is better.

Edited by Sader325, 22 June 2016 - 08:42 PM.

[Foxwalker]

Sader325, on 22 June 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

3 unquirked medium pulses, 2 quirked machine guns.

The 3S is awful beyond measure. Even the masc wolverine is better.

Negative Nancy!
I have been having fun in it and it is Still fun to drive.

Oh yeah, quirks change, should not depend on them. I find the MASC Wolverine to be the really awful one here.
I guess to each their own.

[STEF_]

It's the only PXH I still haven't figured out what to do.....

[Koniving]

Sader325, on 22 June 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

3 unquirked medium pulses, 2 quirked machine guns.

The 3S is awful beyond measure. Even the masc wolverine is better.

And this is why quirks are introducing insane amounts of power creep.


And what it should be replaced with.


PG, if you must quirk, quirk the fewer not the greater.
(Example if you have 8 energy and 1 missile; that 1 missile needs a lot of quirking to give a reason to bring it.)
Quirks were originally introduced to give you a reason to choose a Clan Omnipod with fewer hardpoints over one with more.
Far less abuse of quirks could happen if the fewer in number is quirked over the greater in number.
(Or just do the smart thing and limit quirks to specific limbs on all mechs so that they don't tie together).

Edited by Koniving, 23 June 2016 - 06:22 AM.

[Sader325]

Foxwalker, on 23 June 2016 - 06:15 AM, said:

Negative Nancy!
I have been having fun in it and it is Still fun to drive.

Oh yeah, quirks change, should not depend on them. I find the MASC Wolverine to be the really awful one here.
I guess to each their own.

Protip: They're BOTH awful.

[Mechteric]

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3 Medium Pulse, 2 Machine guns.

So I guess you'll just be tickling your opponents to death

[Alistair Winter]

• MASC Wolverine with XL360 engine
  
• MASC PXH with XL355 engine
  
• CN9-D with XL390 engine.

3 fast medium mechs that will never actually be a threat to anyone unless PGI brings back collision damage.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 23 June 2016 - 06:49 AM.

[Vashramire]

MASC makes it a good corner peeker but that's about it. If you ignore MASC it builds nearly Identical to the -1, and I already have 2 of those so.... IDK just make a troll build with flamers/mg and max engine/JJ and die before you even can get in range with Shadowhawk Profile Beta.

[TercieI]

Having bought the basic pack and reinforcements, I'm probably going to sell the 1&3S for Mechbays. They're that bad.

And I've leveled everything.

[MeiSooHaityu]

TercieI, on 23 June 2016 - 07:30 AM, said:

Having bought the basic pack and reinforcements, I'm probably going to sell the 1&3S for Mechbays. They're that bad.

And I've leveled everything.

I only have the standard pack, so no 3S or Special Edition 1(S). I'm glad, because that PXH-1 is pretty much a dog :/. I't like a Vindicator 1X but with the ballistics split up between 2 arms. At least in the 1X I could run 3 A/C2s in a tight group and chuckle while using it (especially with the ballistic cooldown quirks). The PXH-1 seems to lack that little bit of charm.

Basically, when you say the Vindicator 1X is better, you know the PXH-1 has issues. At least all the other Phoenix Hawks that I own (1K and 1B) seem superior to their relative Vindicator counterparts (1R and 1AA respectively).

[TexAce]

Sader325, on 22 June 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

3 unquirked medium pulses, 2 quirked machine guns.

The 3S is awful beyond measure. Even the masc wolverine is better.

nothing is as bad as the masc wolvie. Nothing.

[Gas Guzzler]

Stefka Kerensky, on 23 June 2016 - 06:17 AM, said:

It's the only PXH I still haven't figured out what to do.....

2 LPLs, XL 320

[TercieI]

Gas Guzzler, on 23 June 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

2 LPLs, XL 320

Kinda proves the point, don't it?

[STEF_]

Gas Guzzler, on 23 June 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

2 LPLs, XL 320

yea... I think it's the only option.

[Gas Guzzler]

TercieI, on 23 June 2016 - 07:56 AM, said:

Kinda proves the point, don't it?

Yes.

[Sader325]

TercieI, on 23 June 2016 - 07:56 AM, said:

Kinda proves the point, don't it?

My last attempt was an xl225 with 3 LPL and masc.

No go. With 10% heat gen it might have worked, without it? It's just a sad, pathetic little mech.

[Gas Guzzler]

Fun fact: The only Phoenix Hawk with an energy heat gen quirk is the Kuroi Kiri (or whatever), and it is 5%.

[Deathlike]

Let's talk about the usefulness of MGs...

Ahahahahahaha, let's not.

MGs below 4 are not worth talking about... by design.

[Jetfire]

Alistair Winter, on 23 June 2016 - 06:48 AM, said:

• MASC Wolverine with XL360 engine
  
• MASC PXH with XL355 engine
  
• CN9-D with XL390 engine.

3 fast medium mechs that will never actually be a threat to anyone unless PGI brings back collision damage.

Oh DFA, why can't I put my foot through an Atlas cockpit yet?