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[PPO Kuro]

A lot of the solo games I play with an assault mech is the same. The whole team rushing forward leaving the assaults behind. Then when you ask people to wait for the assaults the general response is: Get a faster mech....ffs I'm in an assault. Or I should say, an Innersphere assault mech. 50-56 is a fast as it's going to be without being under gunned.

So how do people think about this? Should I just stop using assaults and be a egocentric rushing btard just trying to get to the front asap so I can stealkill some ones work? Should I just chill out and don't let it get to me.

[El Bandito]

Remind people to wait for the Assaults during the pre-game chat. Don't ask for escort only after the team is in motion.

As you can see, it is effective.

Edited by El Bandito, 13 September 2015 - 06:46 AM.

[Triordinant]

Most of the time the assaults are already near an axis of attack so I just type "link up with the assaults" before the match starts and hope for the best (I'm usually in a medium or heavy).

[Osteo2001]

I nearly always "remind" people to protect the Assaults via Voip at the beginning of the match, I call out the lance by Alpha / Bravo / Charlie designation, and ask them to call out their map location for the newbies who can't / don't look at the battle map to see the slow pokes moving out.

This works in about 1/3 of the matches... I can't even get the Assault lance to call out their location much of the time!

Oh well, its a PUG life..

[Sarlic]

El Bandito, on 13 September 2015 - 06:40 AM, said:

Remind people to wait for the Assaults during the pre-game chat. Don't ask for escort only after the team is in motion.

As you can see, it is effective.

Did plenty of times.

Nobody listens. They have their own target fixation.

Frankly got REAL tired of the solo que the last few days. (Perhaps its the event)

But i havent seen the amount of stupid that high. I'm really trying but my goodness. I rather log with my unit and never play the solo que again. It's terrible. Sometimes i just do it for fun, but even fun is not allowed when you get stomped in your face or get a NASCAR up.

Losing 20 matches in a row is not fun. It's frustating, dull and irritating when you see some the lack of teamwork in the solo que.

Edited by Sarlic, 13 September 2015 - 07:05 AM.

[Monkey Lover]

El Bandito, on 13 September 2015 - 06:40 AM, said:

Remind people to wait for the Assaults during the pre-game chat. Don't ask for escort only after the team is in motion.

As you can see, it is effective.

You should be on Marik TS not pugging! i fell no sadness for you

[FluffehBunneh]

If your team is very aggressive and committed to a full yolo-push for the enemy's team tail or an out of position lance, it would actually hurt them to wait for your fatacular butt to catch up before engaging.

When this does happen, follow them for as long as you can. If the enemy has the exact same plan, turn around just before they get to you and try to hold until your team can reinforce.

If that's not possible, press override, fire everything and take one of them with you. You have more than enough firepower to at least open up one of their mech before going down.

TLDR : You got left behind, that doesn't mean you can't do your part.

[Rebas Kradd]

Redesign gamemodes so that assaults are needed to destroy a target. Then they'll make sure we whales are protected.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

lights+ mediums always run ahead, to nonexistant goal.

[El Bandito]

Titannium, on 13 September 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

lights+ mediums always run ahead, to nonexistant goal.

They are gunning for the other team's abandoned Assaults.

[Rhaythe]

Assault pilots are some of the neediest players ever. Nobody ever responds if I type, "Can us lights get some assistance?"

[Jman5]

I'll admit there are a few tricky spawns. However, 9 times out of 10 the bulk of the group is not moving too fast, the assault player in question is moving too slowly. Idling at the start, running the wrong way then U-turning, stopping for no reason, taking round-about ways instead of beelining toward the team. I see it all the time when I'm in my direwolf. Faster Assaults that spawn in my lance screwing around and then pretending they did nothing wrong despite the fact that I'm leading the pack at 53 kph.

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Should I just stop using assaults and be a egocentric rushing btard just trying to get to the front asap so I can stealkill some ones work?

You really think people are moving hard to kill steal? They're doing it to pressure the other team before they can form a firing line facing their position. They're doing it to catch people who are out of position and take out stray opponents who were screwing around instead of moving efficiently. They're doing it to get to a prime trading position. In short they're trying to win and the best way is to try to snag a few easy kills at the start. Timing is absolutely critical in this game and when I see people lollygagging in the back or my fast guys running backward at the start to "escort me" they're completely blowing the opening move. There are great opportunities in the early game to make big plays because a lot of people are complacent, disorganized or don't know the map as well. Wasting it because some assault doesn't want you to move until he says GO is irresponsible.

If this is a problem for you, then yes you should either play a faster mech, or play group queue with like-minded people.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

Rhaythe, on 13 September 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Assault pilots are some of the neediest players ever. Nobody ever responds if I type, "Can us lights get some assistance?"

But here and there, there is a ECM raven, going to "cover" assaults. I had such games. Two.

[Davers]

"Oh noes! All you guys have to escort and protect me because I picked an assault mech!"

"Oh noes, I can't lead a push! I'm too slow- all you guys get out there and I will catch up and finish off the wounded while they focus on you!"

"Oh noes, I died doing 45 damage in my XL Stalker! You guys suck for not supporting me enough!"

No one ******* more than an assault pilot.

[PPO Kuro]

Davers, on 13 September 2015 - 07:45 AM, said:

"Oh noes! All you guys have to escort and protect me because I picked an assault mech!"

"Oh noes, I can't lead a push! I'm too slow- all you guys get out there and I will catch up and finish off the wounded while they focus on you!"

"Oh noes, I died doing 45 damage in my XL Stalker! You guys suck for not supporting me enough!"

No one ******* more than an assault pilot.

Heh someone got out of the wrong side of his bed. Sheees.

I'm not saying the whole team should stop what's it doing and rush back to protect me. Plus I would never use a XL engine in a stalker

Some long range support is nice. Plus yeah if I play with friends this is rarely a issue...unless light rush, but not much you can do about that.

[LordKnightFandragon]

No, people need to link up with thier assaults, I mean, its almost common sense. Rushing with half your force into thier entire force, leaving behind a large portion of your firepower, just SCREAMS 12-0 wipe...

I got on a FC map where the team right out the gate said "regroup on the fatties". They did, we won.

[Davegt27]

PPO Kuro not everyone is a jerk

I always support and or escort the assaults

Keep asking for help or support

And I will always say don’t let the assaults push alone

[Davers]

LordKnightFandragon, on 13 September 2015 - 09:36 AM, said:

No, people need to link up with thier assaults, I mean, its almost common sense. Rushing with half your force into thier entire force, leaving behind a large portion of your firepower, just SCREAMS 12-0 wipe...

I got on a FC map where the team right out the gate said "regroup on the fatties". They did, we won.

Why in your example is one force at half strength with no assaults, but the other force is at full strength with their assaults? It's the usual "My team is filled with clueless noobs, but the other team are tactical pros".

[LordKnightFandragon]

Davers, on 13 September 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

Why in your example is one force at half strength with no assaults, but the other force is at full strength with their assaults? It's the usual "My team is filled with clueless noobs, but the other team are tactical pros".

The only way to explain how the game ends 12-0, or 12-2 or w/e. Maybe both sides were clueless noobs, but the side that got wiped 12-2 were more clueless...

[Davers]

LordKnightFandragon, on 13 September 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:

The only way to explain how the game ends 12-0, or 12-2 or w/e. Maybe both sides were clueless noobs, but the side that got wiped 12-2 were more clueless...

You might as well say the team with the most giant screens win. Or the team that can stand using heat vision the most wins. Lots of other explanations that don't insult the other players who are allegedly in the same skill bracket as yourself.