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What Percentage Were Lights Increased By Again? (Scale Comparisons And Requests Inside)


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#1 Mcgral18

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 12:17 PM

Because this doesn't seem like a few percent...

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Also, I've got the importer working, better than ever (now that I'm selecting the right damned folder)
Feel free to make any current VS old scale requests, or current VS current
Complete album here:
http://imgur.com/a/1kW0H

50 tonner VS 50 tonner VS 65 tonner
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55 tonner VS 70 tonner
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70 tonner VS 95 tonner
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70 tonner VS 70 tonner
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35 VS 45 VS 85
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Also, here's a sad Nova VS a happy Nova after surgury
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Edited by Mcgral18, 26 June 2016 - 11:35 PM.


#2 Moldur

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 12:28 PM

Hi Mcgral, could you do a comparison between the current Wolfhound and Catapult?

35 tonners were the most out-of-scale, iirc, so I would imagine that they were blown up more than a few percents. Looking at a few of the various rescale threads, it seems PGI preserved the bulk more than the height of man-walkers. We don't have fat, slightly taller lights. They are instead slightly more bulky, but much taller than previously.

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 12:42 PM

View PostMoldur, on 26 June 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

Hi Mcgral, could you do a comparison between the current Wolfhound and Catapult?


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I should throw some transparency in there...so you can see where the further mech stops

#4 Darian DelFord

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 12:46 PM

Old Jenner vs New Jenner?

Please

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 12:51 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 26 June 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:


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I should throw some transparency in there...so you can see where the further mech stops


Yeah....I won't be driving my Wolfhounds for quite some time.

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 12:58 PM

McGral can you show the New Blacknight to the New Thunderbolt?

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 01:01 PM

That volume though

Edited by meteorol, 26 June 2016 - 01:02 PM.


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 01:04 PM

If you're able to import these into a 3D modeling program, you should be able to get a volume measurement out of it.

I'm much more interested how closely they stuck to the volumetric approach, and how much was fudged with "gameplay" and "pragmatism."

#9 SmoothCriminal

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 01:19 PM

Old v new 35 tonners please. Also Jenner v locust if possible. Seems to me the 35 ton lights are now as big as mediums, which is not entirely fair...

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 01:24 PM

Great post McGral.

Was wondering - anything with the Dragon (someone mentioned bulky man-walkers, and the dragon is the best example of a bulky man-walker I can think of). Wouldn't mind seeing it along side the Mad Dog. Also, Ebon Jag and Catapult (Ebon Jag with and without the top pod mounts if possible).

#11 Johnny Z

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:00 PM

Most of those those pretty good but there are a couple that look off.I would say the one that stands out the most is the Phoenix Hawk.

Edited by Johnny Z, 26 June 2016 - 02:02 PM.


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:11 PM

Locus and Atlas, because reasons.

#13 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:16 PM

They'll never give us the percentage by which mechs were increased, or any proof that they even truly did scale the weight classes by consistent volume. It's up to us to figure these things out.

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:24 PM

View PostScarecrowES, on 26 June 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:

If you're able to import these into a 3D modeling program, you should be able to get a volume measurement out of it.

I'm much more interested how closely they stuck to the volumetric approach, and how much was fudged with "gameplay" and "pragmatism."

I doubt very much that game play and pragmatism had any effect on the lights, i'm not a big light pilot ,but wow they seem rather massive.

I think someone put the decimal point in the wrong place

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:30 PM

Locust vs Mist Lynx vs Spider plz?

Edited by Alistair Winter, 26 June 2016 - 04:05 PM.


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:33 PM

Highlander IIC Pre Patch model vs New Model.

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:38 PM

McGral, you're missing the top down view. Remember, this is a 3d game. Part of the reason that everyone is up in arms about the new Catapult is that they forget how much surface area that top of that mech has. While I hate that it is brought into the equation, because we don't shoot top down, it is part of it all.

Edited by Trauglodyte, 26 June 2016 - 02:40 PM.


#18 C E Dwyer

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:42 PM

View PostTrauglodyte, on 26 June 2016 - 02:38 PM, said:

McGral, you're missing the top down view. Remember, this is a 3d game.

It would be handy for completeness, and will stop any possible argument, but it's not 100% needed as we all know the shapes and can build the top elevation in our minds from the side and front

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:44 PM

Black Knight New vs Old

Black Knight vs Grasshopper

Crab vs King Crab (Just for namesake, tbh.)

Jenner New vs Old

Locust vs Kodiak (Atlas is already done)

Atlas vs Kodiak (Seems fair?)

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#20 Trauglodyte

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:53 PM

View PostCathy, on 26 June 2016 - 02:42 PM, said:

It would be handy for completeness, and will stop any possible argument, but it's not 100% needed as we all know the shapes and can build the top elevation in our minds from the side and front

You and I know the shapes. People that are level headed about this know the shapes and understand it. What % of the community does that make up? I'm ok with the resizing of everything. Though, I'll admit that some of them, like the Jenner, has been hard to accept. That isn't because I think that it is too big because it isn't. It is just 4 years of seeing it as how it used to be.

PS> McGral, do the Jenner vs Cicada and any of the humanoid 35 ton mechs vs. the BJ/Phawk. I think that both of those will go a long way to helping some stubborn folks.





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