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[Vashramire]

So while underwhelming on launch, we have had some time to mess with it. If you actually find yourself not committing seppuku from rage, which ones/builds do you like. Or did you end up liking one you didn't expect. A lot of it's reliability comes from having a good team since it won't really carry and it's a little brittle. Really needs to be Elited for the heat savings too.

The ECM mechs obviously have an edge over some others. PXH-1B is fun with 3xERLL but of coarse hot. PXH-2 with 2xLP has done surprisingly well for me in some matches. PXH-1 3xLL has pretty good dps and range (540m with module) and I run the PXH-3S as more support with 2xML, 1xLP, and 2xAMS because I just don't know what to do with it. The ROC has been a bit of a letdown no matter what I build because it's close range and depending on the map or team, that may not com to pass. It can do great or flop harder than the others, and also has the highest alpha of them all depending on builds. Never got the KK but I figure it's like a -2 without ECM.

Edited by Vashramire, 27 June 2016 - 10:26 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

1b is similar to your idea but with std LLs to help with heat. Does lose some range, but I don't like the 1000 meter poke game, anyhow. PXH-1B

ROC

That's it, so far.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 27 June 2016 - 05:27 PM.

[TercieI]

Kiwi and Chickadee are the only two I'll keep assembled once mastered, though I may drop Chickadee's engine for more DHS.

Yeah, they're all named after small, cute, nonthreatening birds. Kinda fits.

Edited by TercieI, 27 June 2016 - 04:57 PM.

[Nightmare1]

I'm running an XL280 with a LPL, 3xMPL, and 2xMGs with 6 JJs and extra heat sinks. It's fun!

...Overall though, it's a sad Mech compared to most others in the game.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I actually enjoy the PXH-1K with 8 SPLasers and an XL340. I'd run a bigger engine, but don't have one to spare right now. You do need to get close (which sounds terrible in a 45 ton fragile mech), but if you plan your positioning well, it pays off.

It's more fun and challenging than effective, but I like it none the less.

PXH-1B is an OK build. I tried 3 LLasers, but I feel it's too hot right now (no elite, just finished basic tree). I'm running 1 ERPPC and 3 MPLasers to be easier on heat. I like it actually.

PXH-1 is still a perplexing ride. I'm running an A/C10 and 3 MPLasers and it feels adequate. Not great, but OK. I think I may never figure that ride out.

Overall, I'm having fun. I like them.

[Bluefalcon13]

So far my favorite is the ROC. I run this build:

ROC

As for the -1, I don't really know what to run that with. I did a few rounds in a 3mlas, uac5 w/3.5t ammo, and put up some interesting numbers, but I just didn't enjoy the feel of it. I'm gonna figure out something to do with it after the event.

The -1k: I run it with 6mlas, and 2 smplas. It does OK, but I hate being earth-bound in that mech.... makes me really miss jump jets.

The -1b: I run 3mplas, and an erppc. It's a bit light on the heat sinks, but I try and avoid using the erppc in knife fights. Best to save it for the kill shot or you will be overheating in moments. Granted I only got it Basil's at this time, not elite'd.

I'd like to try not the -2 and the -3m. I can see interesting things for those. As for the KK: I'm not sure it's worth it to me. I really like the ROC and I don't know if the KK can stack up to that, or the 3m and still being a unique experience.

[TercieI]

Bluefalcon13, on 27 June 2016 - 06:32 PM, said:

As for the -1, I don't really know what to run that with. I did a few rounds in a 3mlas, uac5 w/3.5t ammo, and put up some interesting numbers, but I just didn't enjoy the feel of it. I'm gonna figure out something to do with it after the event.

I hated it with a ballistic, so I came up with this unimaginative build. Very agile even with low engine, hits pretty hard. <shrug> Level and ditch variant for sure.

[Bluefalcon13]

TercieI, on 27 June 2016 - 06:45 PM, said:

I hated it with a ballistic, so I came up with this unimaginative build. Very agile even with low engine, hits pretty hard. &lt;shrug&gt; Level and ditch variant for sure.

Yeah but I bought the collectors... for the chill variant. I need to find something to do with it

[TercieI]

Bluefalcon13, on 27 June 2016 - 06:52 PM, said:

Yeah but I bought the collectors... for the chill variant. I need to find something to do with it

This is why I never buy collector's. Always figure I'll upgrade to it if I love that variant. Hasn't come up yet. :/

[Bluefalcon13]

TercieI, on 27 June 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

This is why I never buy collector's. Always figure I'll upgrade to it if I love that variant. Hasn't come up yet. :/

well played good sir!

[Bishop Steiner]

TercieI, on 27 June 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

This is why I never buy collector's. Always figure I'll upgrade to it if I love that variant. Hasn't come up yet. :/

I'm actually regretting not getting the collector's RFL instead of the Hero Mech. But that's pretty much the sole exception to date..

Though i'd buy one for the ASN sight unseen. And probably regret it, after.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 27 June 2016 - 08:47 PM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

It looks amazing.

It plays... well it just doesn't work for me. not sure why but some mechs just don't work for me. Wolverines for example, never worked well for me, but shadowhawks always have even after the quirkening.

[Jaqir]

I just wish one of the ECM variants had more ballistic slots in arms. Flying over and around big things while raining bullets down on them for a minute and disappearing when they realise what's going on is hilarious.

[Vashramire]

My nonspecial PXH-1 is silly but fun. Machine guns have damage just shy of 4 (3.75) with quirks.

[jss78]

So far my favourite is my ROC. A bit like the Bishop's above, it's more a medium-range poker.

I've had zero luck running short-range builds on my PXH. Maybe I just suck at the play style.

[Vashramire]

jss78, on 27 June 2016 - 10:46 PM, said:

So far my favourite is my ROC. A bit like the Bishop's above, it's more a medium-range poker.

I've had zero luck running short-range builds on my PXH. Maybe I just suck at the play style.

Mine has only done well on maps like Mining Collective and such where there is a lot of brawling. I've had enough good matches to get it in the top 50 but less stellar matches overall than the laser boat variants. A lot of my damage for placing was dueling other PXH which is what it does well. Either 2x SRM4/SRM6 and whatever lasers you fit just tear their arms off in 2 volleys and then you pick them apart. It's just mean.

Edited by Vashramire, 28 June 2016 - 02:04 AM.

[NoiseCrypt]

KK with 4MPL, max XL and some JJs. If you keep moving and spread incoming damage on your torso, it's lots of fun.

[Bluefalcon13]

I have been thinking about the -1 a bit. It would help alot I think if the Mlas cool down quirk was general energy, and with a smallish buff to the arms, it would go a long way.

It would help alot with it's offensive potential, while still being limited by heat. The machine gun quirk is less useful, mostly because of how close you need to get to even use the MGs.

[Bishop Steiner]

Bluefalcon13, on 28 June 2016 - 04:28 AM, said:

I have been thinking about the -1 a bit. It would help alot I think if the Mlas cool down quirk was general energy, and with a smallish buff to the arms, it would go a long way.

It would help alot with it's offensive potential, while still being limited by heat. The machine gun quirk is less useful, mostly because of how close you need to get to even use the MGs.

yeah, which is why I have the uninspiring ac10, 3x ML build instead atm.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 June 2016 - 04:47 AM, said:

yeah, which is why I have the uninspiring ac10, 3x ML build instead atm.

That's basically my build for the PXH-1 right now as well (although I am running MPLasers instead). With how the hard points are spread out, I don't see this chassis ever being anything but uninspiring.

Say what you will about it's Vindicator cousin the 1X, at least you could run triple A/C2s all in a nice grouping on the left arm (with good ballistic quirks). It was fun in tier 3 or lower when it seems like every target runs for cover (most higher tier players won't flinch).

I did run a 2 A/C2 and 1 PPC build on the Vindicator 1X and thought about that build for the Phoenix Hawk 1, but without quirk (and the current state of PPCs), it just doesn't seem as appealing.

The PXH-1 is just....blah.

BTW...I did run a 1 A/C10 and 1 ERPPC build. It looks cool with the large barrel on each "gun". It also ran an XL235. Bit slow (especially before speed tweak), but it was interesting at least. If the PPC and A/C10 velocities were closer, it might not have been half bad too.

Still, the 3 MLasers or 3 MPLasers seem to be the better backup vs an ERPPC.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 28 June 2016 - 04:59 AM.