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[Bishop Steiner]

CK16, on 01 July 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

We are supposed to get 2 heavies and 2 mediums.

that was their position at the time.

You'll get an Assassin....then a Vulcan.

And you''ll like it.

[POOTYTANGASAUR]

I dream of the devastator. IS needs a balancer to the kodiak, something to put clan mechs in their place. It is the only mech I would pay for anymore. PGI is getting really shady as of late.

Edited by POOTYTANGASAUR, 01 July 2016 - 09:53 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

POOTYTANGASAUR, on 01 July 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

I dream of the devastator. IS needs a balancer to the kodiak, something to put clan mechs in their place. It is the only mech I would pay for anymore. PGI is getting really shady as of late.

yes!! What MWO needs is MORE powercreep! Powercreep for everyone! I'ts ObamaPowercreep!

[FLG 01]

POOTYTANGASAUR, on 01 July 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

I dream of the devastator. IS needs a balancer to the kodiak, something to put clan mechs in their place. It is the only mech I would pay for anymore. PGI is getting really shady as of late.

You know, I love the Mech. The fluff being a rediscovered SL-era prototype put into production during the SW, the looks, the old PGI notes about Harrison Bradford (from the 3rd Royal Guards, one of my favourite LCAF units)...

However, I really do not think the Devastator would be that good. Certainly nowhere near a powercreepy level. It is slow, huge, and could not mount anymore armament than the King Crab already can, except using more lasers - which is not really all that exiting. I do not see how it could compete with the Kodiak other than in pure ruggedness, which comes at a fatal expense of firepower.

Bishop Steiner, on 01 July 2016 - 10:03 AM, said:

yes!! What MWO needs is MORE powercreep! Powercreep for everyone! I'ts ObamaPowercreep!

I could understand reservations regarding powercreep when it comes to the Nightstar, but the Devastator... no. I would be more afraid that it is useless.

[Gas Guzzler]

All we know is that Phil and Daeron said it was "sexy" iirc.

Therefore we know it isn't the Linebacker.

[TheArisen]

POOTYTANGASAUR, on 01 July 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

I dream of the devastator. IS needs a balancer to the kodiak, something to put clan mechs in their place. It is the only mech I would pay for anymore. PGI is getting really shady as of late.

The Devestator would just be a humanoid KC.

I'd put the Nightstar forward as a mech to compete but even though I want badly I know it wouldn't be as good as a Kodiak.

Bishop Steiner, on 01 July 2016 - 10:03 AM, said:

yes!! What MWO needs is MORE powercreep! Powercreep for everyone! I'ts ObamaPowercreep!

The powercreep happened, now we need something that's near the same level. Idk if there is any IS design that could match the Kdk.

[Bishop Steiner]

TheArisen, on 01 July 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

The Devestator would just be a humanoid KC.

I'd put the Nightstar forward as a mech to compete but even though I want badly I know it wouldn't be as good as a Kodiak.



The powercreep happened, now we need something that's near the same level. Idk if there is any IS design that could match the Kdk.

no, what we need is to nerf the creep

[cazidin]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 July 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

that was their position at the time.

You'll get an Assassin....then a Vulcan.

And you''ll like it.

No, Bishop, for I had a vision of the future, and it's rather boring, but the next mech will be... "cue fade to black"

[TheArisen]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 July 2016 - 02:02 PM, said:

no, what we need is to nerf the creep

I don't disagree but people will whine that their toy got brought in line. Even a quirkless Kodiak would be hard to match, in general utility.

[Hit the Deck]

To match the Clan, IS need to release 'Mechs which can boat IS weapons which is somewhat stronger than the Clan version. These weapons are IS Autocannons and IS Large Pulse Lasers currently, but it's more like just LPL since IS ACs weigh so much more and cUACs are decent now. Therefore, IS 'Mechs in general can't match Clan's without help (quirks) right now. We need new weapons (timeline jump) unique for IS which hopefully are balanced by PGI so that they can help IS match the Clan.

[davoodoo]

Timeline jump.
Everyone rejoices, we finally got mrm, missile hardpoints finally get direct fire weapon with range higher than brawl. Hallelujah

Wait, why mrm40 weighting as much as ac10 and taking 7 crit slots spreads dmg so badly that its worse than lb10x?? Why 4x mrm10 outclasses mrm40 in every aspect?? Too bad we dont have battle armor mrm5, im sure they would be even better.

Edited by davoodoo, 01 July 2016 - 04:42 PM.

[MauttyKoray]

Honestly I would love to see the Hollander post-power draw. 35 ton chassis built to support a Gauss Rifle.

A lot of low-hardpoint, low-tonnage mechs suffer in the alpha-meta but I really love varied loadouts and these underdogs.

[CK16]

davoodoo, on 01 July 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Timeline jump.
Everyone rejoices, we finally got mrm, missile hardpoints finally get direct fire weapon with range higher than brawl. Hallelujah

Wait, why mrm40 weighting as much as ac10 and taking 7 crit slots spreads dmg so badly that its worse than lb10x?? Why 4x mrm10 outclasses mrm40 in every aspect??

Not everyone jumps for joy, 3025 fan boys wont be happy till all tech level 2+ stuff its removed oh and us Clans go back to our birthing tanks

Tech jump could be a balancing nightmare if done wrong....I mean look how bad Clan balance was for the longest time...

[Hit the Deck]

davoodoo, on 01 July 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

...
Wait, why mrm40 weighting as much as ac10 and taking 7 crit slots spreads dmg so badly that its worse than lb10x??

Everything can be adjusted because it's a game. Hell, we can even make MGs better than GRs if we want.

PGI could theoretically make current IS weapons somewhat more powerful than the Clan versions but we have what we've got so maybe in the future IS could match the Clan in the arm race because of different paths the two side take (IS have weapons the Clans don't and vice versa).

[davoodoo]

CK16, on 01 July 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

Not everyone jumps for joy, 3025 fan boys wont be happy till all tech level 2+ stuff its removed oh and us Clans go back to our birthing tanks

Tech jump could be a balancing nightmare if done wrong....I mean look how bad Clan balance was for the longest time...

Well lets be honest.

lbx will suck, no doubt here.
xpulse?? 2 hawt.
binary?? why not 2 large or lpl??
Bombast?? might have a limited use as sniper weapon.
er lasers?? generally 2 hawt but theyll find some use in niche builds.
Rotary ac5, yeah that might work.

But then clans get hag40 and is is doomed again

Hit the Deck, on 01 July 2016 - 04:46 PM, said:

Everything can be adjusted because it's a game. Hell, we can even make MGs better than GRs if we want.

PGI could theoretically make current IS weapons somewhat more powerful than the Clan versions but we have what we've got so maybe in the future IS could match the Clan in the arm race because of different paths the two side take (IS have weapons the Clans don't and vice versa).

Ofc it can, but lets be realistic here, ive described problems with lbx and lrms we got now and cant solve since these weapons inception, yet you expect things like mrm to work properly?? Yeah there is a small chance that pgi actually balances out those weapons during introduction(with lbx and lrms at the same time)but if they dont these weapons are doomed from beginning.

Edited by davoodoo, 01 July 2016 - 05:01 PM.

[Dr Mlem]

Still waiting for that Blood Asp! Would be awesome to see implemented.

That or Hellhound, which I doubt because it was thought up by Microsoft. Anyone know it it's considered cannon now?

[MauttyKoray]

CK16, on 01 July 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

Not everyone jumps for joy, 3025 fan boys wont be happy till all tech level 2+ stuff its removed oh and us Clans go back to our birthing tanks Tech jump could be a balancing nightmare if done wrong....I mean look how bad Clan balance was for the longest time...

That's because most of the balance was put on "Well Clan is different than IS so their OP." half the time and the other half was trying to balance weapons that WERENT MEANT TO BE, i.e. Small/Med lasers with CER Small/Med, WHICH IS WRONG, because the IS have ER Small/Med that aren't in yet so you CANT balance standard and CER lasers because then you **** up balance for the ER S/M lasers for IS and balance once again BECOMES A ******* NIGHTMARE.

But hey, as long as the QQ'hards get their way and Small/Med lasers are buffed to stupid levels to make the implementation of ER Small/Med a huge pain, they don't care right?

/EndDrunkRant-IdiotsThatDontKnowHowToEvenBalanceAGameOrFutureProofForNewContent

[Navid A1]

You know what this games needs?

Annihilator.


the powercreep is real

[Hit the Deck]

Navid A1, on 01 July 2016 - 08:54 PM, said:

You know what this games needs?

Annihilator.


the powercreep is real

What do you think of this:




By Teslacoil aka Punakettu: http://punakettu.deviantart.com/

Personally, I think it looks great and the artist has successfully managed to de-emphasize the original pregnant belly look but I'm not too sure about the "snake head".

Edited by Hit the Deck, 01 July 2016 - 09:04 PM.

[TheArisen]

Navid A1, on 01 July 2016 - 08:54 PM, said:

You know what this games needs?

Annihilator.


the powercreep is real

The Annihilator wouldn't be power creep... It'd be slower than a Dwolf.