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#21 adamts01

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:09 PM

View Post1453 R, on 15 July 2016 - 05:54 PM, said:

KDK-3 loses all mobility and most of its structure quirks, with a very minor +5 Structure to the CT. It will now drive with all of the agility and responsiveness of a Dire Whale. On the flip side, we'll get to see if all the Mischiefs of the world were right when they said that "the KDK-3 without any quirks at all will still be the best assault 'Mech in the game!" Personally...well, I'll be watching for a significant upspike in overquirked Spheroid fatbros replacing half-legged Kodiaks.

HAhahaha. The easy button gets taken away. Nice. You'll still be just as fast, more maneuverable than a Dire with your bigger motor, and have great high mounts.

It sucks the other variants are getting the shaft, but at least it's not the whole shaft.

And seriously, screw your mobility. You want guns? Check. Speed, Check. High mounts? Check. 100 ton Armor with some buffed structure? Check. You want turning to keep up with lights? Come on already.

It got what it needed.

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:09 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 July 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Pssht.

MWO? Over it....
http://www.theverge....ced-price-games

Less that one Mech Pack, no nerfs included.


Haha saw that! Looks neat. I wonder if those usb controllers will work on a regular PC.

#23 dervishx5

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:11 PM

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#24 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:12 PM

View Postadamts01, on 15 July 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

HAhahaha. The easy button gets taken away. Nice. You'll still be just as fast, more maneuverable than a Dire with your bigger motor, and have great high mounts.

It sucks the other variants are getting the shaft, but at least it's not the whole shaft.

And seriously, screw your mobility. You want guns? Check. Speed, Check. High mounts? Check. 100 ton Armor with some buffed structure? Check. You want turning to keep up with lights? Come on already.

It got what it needed.

do the love the carpet bomb the civilians at least you'll get that one terrorist mentality.

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:15 PM

They shouldn't have touched the SB. That more than anything else is a mistake. You do not release a 100T Hero then fu*ck with it like this and expect people not to remember next time they try to sell one.

As previously stated, no one would have been surprised with a KDK 3 tweek, but leave the rest alone. How does natural selection miss people like this? What the hell goes through their minds?

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:19 PM

View PostRandom Carnage, on 15 July 2016 - 07:15 PM, said:

They shouldn't have touched the SB. That more than anything else is a mistake. You do not release a 100T Hero then fu*ck with it like this and expect people not to remember next time they try to sell one.

As previously stated, no one would have been surprised with a KDK 3 tweek, but leave the rest alone. How does natural selection miss people like this? What the hell goes through their minds?

Oh why not?

They fornicated with the Heavy Metal and Dragonslayer, and did it with a chainsaw. We've bought new shinies like morons for the past 2.5 years anyhow.

#27 1453 R

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:27 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 15 July 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

Oh my god. The KDK3 is only as agile as a Banshee, considered one of the IS most agile assaults. That's *horrible*. Unplayable! Balance broken 4EVAR!!11!!

It's got a Dire Whale loadout on over the shoulder mounts with vastly more mobility. It's still an excellent assault - the Banshee, BLR, Mauler and families all got nerfed down a month ago.

All this does is being the KDK3 down into scope of every other assault. I know, I know. Having an OP mech is fun. However it's bad for balance.

So we did get what we wanted, eventually - better game balance.

View Postadamts01, on 15 July 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

HAhahaha. The easy button gets taken away. Nice. You'll still be just as fast, more maneuverable than a Dire with your bigger motor, and have great high mounts.

It sucks the other variants are getting the shaft, but at least it's not the whole shaft.

And seriously, screw your mobility. You want guns? Check. Speed, Check. High mounts? Check. 100 ton Armor with some buffed structure? Check. You want turning to keep up with lights? Come on already.

It got what it needed.


And when you guys never see a Spirit Bear again because it's half as durable as an AS7-S with less efficient weapons, worse hitboxes, and no real mobility advantage save when it's got M.A.S.C. bar to spare?

I said it about seven hundred times in Bishop's thread - we all knew, and nobody cared, that they were going to buttmurder the KDK-3.

Why. Did. You. People. Have. To. Insist. On. Buttmurdering. Every. Other. Variant. Too?!

#28 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:28 PM

View Post1453 R, on 15 July 2016 - 07:27 PM, said:

And when you guys never see a Spirit Bear again because it's half as durable as an AS7-S with less efficient weapons, worse hitboxes, and no real mobility advantage save when it's got M.A.S.C. bar to spare?

I said it about seven hundred times in Bishop's thread - we all knew, and nobody cared, that they were going to buttmurder the KDK-3.

Why. Did. You. People. Have. To. Insist. On. Buttmurdering. Every. Other. Variant. Too?!


Because he's mad at MWO and wants everyone else to be as mad.

#29 Mystere

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:28 PM

View Post1453 R, on 15 July 2016 - 05:54 PM, said:

Kodiak has three days left before it gets buttf***ed, according to the patch notes. And not just the KDK-3, either, but gol' dang near all a'em.

KDK-1 and 5 - the poster children for "So Last Meta" - are the only variants to not come out gagglenerfed - each gets a +15 Structure to the still-quite thoroughly-murderable CT. Helpful, but not really what either variant needed. They will continue to blow chunks next to all other Kodiaks, though the gap is about to get a lot friggin' narrower.

KDK-3 loses all mobility and most of its structure quirks, with a very minor +5 Structure to the CT. It will now drive with all of the agility and responsiveness of a Dire Whale. On the flip side, we'll get to see if all the Mischiefs of the world were right when they said that "the KDK-3 without any quirks at all will still be the best assault 'Mech in the game!" Personally...well, I'll be watching for a significant upspike in overquirked Spheroid fatbros replacing half-legged Kodiaks.

KDK-2 somehow inexplicably loses the majority of its mobility as well, as does the Spirit Bear - which is an assault 'mech with exactly seven hardpoints and a complete inability to pull off any loadout that isn't AS7-S analog brawly striker. The Atlas gets an entire medium 'Mech's worth of free structure and six free weapons modules' worth of weapon quirks. The Spirit Bear gets...~10% mobility and half a Locust's worth of extra structure. For the same armament. Go figure.

The ol' Stink Bear (KDK-4) loses more mobility than the 2 or SB, but less than the KDK-3, as well as receiving the same largely pointless +5 to CT structure as the 2, 3, and SB. Thusly it will be slightly to minorishly more responsive than a Dire Whale and survive for one extra medium laser hit's worth of incoming fire to its small moon-sized torso sections.

Yep. All sounds like just about exactly what folks were looking for. Oh well...suppose I shoulda played more Sprint Bear when I had the chance. Maybe I'll give it one last hurrah this weekend before the patch goes live and it joins my old Victors in the "I used to really love this 'Mech" corner of the hangar. Get it out of my system before the Viper comes in.

Still. Can't accuse Piranha of not listening anymore, can ye? They did pretty much exactly spot-on what "The Community" wanted for the Kodiak. Time to see how we like getting what we deserve, I s'pose.


Would you like another Mech Pack with that?





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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:34 PM

View PostMister Blastman, on 15 July 2016 - 06:59 PM, said:

Go play some Lands of Lore and it'll ease you of your woes. The pangs of MWOitis will vanish and in no time will you be lost in a not so gentle world of fantasy, action and adventure.


Meh! My brand new Thrustmaster pedals are screaming "Get Elite: Dangerous already!!!". It's been nipping at me since I returned from vacation.

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Edited by Mystere, 15 July 2016 - 07:35 PM.


#31 Y E O N N E

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:36 PM

View PostMystere, on 15 July 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:


Meh! My brand new Thrustmaster pedals are screaming "Get Elite: Dangerous already!!!". It's been nipping at me since I returned from vacation.

My gear are useless in MWO -- apparently by design. Posted Image


Save your money, the game is a mile wide and an inch deep.

#32 Novakaine

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:38 PM

Hahahahaah at least it didn't get "Archer'd" right out of the gate.
GG PGI well played.

Edited by Novakaine, 15 July 2016 - 07:39 PM.


#33 Mole

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:40 PM

So my KDK-2 that is my favorite and nobody else's favorite and wasn't even on anyone's list of "OPNERF" offenders gets the hammer too? Awesome. Friggin' awesome. Good job, crybabies.

Edited by Mole, 15 July 2016 - 07:50 PM.


#34 Mystere

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:41 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 July 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Pssht.

MWO? Over it....
http://www.theverge....ced-price-games

Less that one Mech Pack, no nerfs included.


Damn! That's a fine package for a fine price. I need to get a few for X'Mas as gifts. I might even keep one for use in the office. Posted Image

#35 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:42 PM

View PostMole, on 15 July 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:

So my KDK-2 that is my favorite and nobody else's favorite and wasn't even on anyone's list of "OPNERF" offenders gets the hammer too? Awesome. Friggin' awesome. Good job, autismo.

Mischief doesn't see a problem with that.

BTW... just as a note...I do find a problem with people using autism as an insult. I'll kindly ask you to edit that out? Thank you.

#36 Mister Blastman

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:44 PM

View PostMystere, on 15 July 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:


Meh! My brand new Thrustmaster pedals are screaming "Get Elite: Dangerous already!!!". It's been nipping at me since I returned from vacation.

My gear are useless in MWO -- apparently by design. Posted Image


This is my setup...

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#37 Mystere

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:50 PM

View PostMister Blastman, on 15 July 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:


This is my setup...

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OMG! You're insulting that Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar by putting it on top of DVDs!!! You are mean, really mean! You should at least nail and/or glue them to the desk.

#38 Mole

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:50 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 July 2016 - 07:42 PM, said:

Mischief doesn't see a problem with that.

BTW... just as a note...I do find a problem with people using autism as an insult. I'll kindly ask you to edit that out? Thank you.

Done. But only because I respect you.

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:53 PM

View PostMole, on 15 July 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

Done. But only because I respect you.

thank you. It's much appreciated. Doubly so as a member of the Autistic community who is very tired of seeing his kind used as insults, when many should be looked to as inspiration (and others are without people even being aware they are or were, autistic)

View PostMister Blastman, on 15 July 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:


This is my setup...

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wait a sec... not seeing your steering wheel......

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 07:54 PM

View PostMystere, on 15 July 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:


OMG! You're insulting that Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar by putting it on top of DVDs!!! You are mean, really mean! You should at least nail and/or glue them to the desk.


It isn't any Thrustmaster Cougar. It is a modded Uber II NXT custom CNC machined gimbals + hall sensor Cougar. Posted Image

The stick feels like something you'd find on the space shuttle. So precise.

The pedals I modded too--rewired from USB to gameport + switches to go between so I can plug them straight into the Cougar and program them.

Edited by Mister Blastman, 15 July 2016 - 07:54 PM.






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