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[Y E O N N E]

Rampage, on 15 July 2016 - 09:25 PM, said:

You can self nerf the Viper by running anything other than stock Omnipods.

It won't need recombined pods. The Hero variant can run six clan lasers with a total 20% range boost after modules at 139.3 kph with six JJs and hit-boxes that are similar to a Storm Crow on a much smaller frame with room for 3 extra cDHS. It will be a fantastic 'Mech for caps and fast strikes. You can get up to 496 meters of optimal poke using a TComp Mk. I and cERML. 202 with cSPL. 245 with cERSL (though cERSL are so light I would probably suggest a bigger TComp, which would make them favorable to IS ML).

It will be hot but it will be fast enough for that to not matter so much. Kind of like the LCT-1E with 6xML right now, only not as fraggable.

The re-combined mixed Omnis will also be fantastic...simply because the Clan Tech is already pretty good (and is the entire reason we have quirks in the first place).

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 15 July 2016 - 09:35 PM.

[FLG 01]

I am surprised that I got exactly what I wanted regarding the PXH: mobility improvements, and structure quirks for the arms. No need for generic offensive quirks for all those BJ-copy&paste-builds. They deserve to be shot down en masse.

[Bishop Steiner]

FLG 01, on 15 July 2016 - 09:34 PM, said:

I am surprised that I got exactly what I wanted regarding the PXH: mobility improvements, and structure quirks for the arms. No need for generic offensive quirks for all those BJ-copy&paste-builds. They deserve to be shot down en masse.

70-80% acceleration buff? Naw, think it's massively overquirked, will have to see those PXH brought in line with VND quirks.

Lemme go tweet Russ about that.

[FLG 01]

[Taffer]

I am so sick of hearing about quirks

[EvilCow]

Like an elephant in a Chinese shop....

Tell me again about next mech packs.

Edited by EvilCow, 15 July 2016 - 10:40 PM.

[Baulven]

Pjwned, on 15 July 2016 - 08:11 PM, said:

Oh no how terrible an already superb mech with the most fearsome firepower in the entire game no longer has a bunch of overdone quirks it's the end of the world and the entire chassis is forever doomed to be trash.

All of the variants should have 0 quirks period.

I also like the bit about how removing overdone agility quirks means the mech will move as slow as a dire whale despite easily having room for a much bigger engine than the whale can ever fit even if the whale didn't have a locked engine...really shows quite clearly that quirk apologists are brain damaged.

You're right. It obviously doesn't need quirks when two of the variants have been known to function worse than pretty much every IS assault that exists. I mean git gud bro.

BTW I don't even own the KDK series and now that the nerf bat its now even further down on my list of mechs to own. Pity, since you know it's my totem mech and all.

[Ex Atlas Overlord]

Lazy Badger, on 15 July 2016 - 06:24 PM, said:

Atlas will reign supreme again.

[Ryllen Kriel]

I hate Clanner mechs for the most part and he only ones I own are kept as trophies from events and never piloted. That said, the Kodiak wasn't that bad. Sure it had some cheese builds like the quad gauss that could one shot people, but I killed several tonight finishing out the "mastery" for my PHX 1K (the variant I despise). Most didn't torso twist. It's a powerful mech, but not too overpowered in my opinion. They exploded beautifully enough if you tap-dance around them and use plenty of cover.

[Navid A1]

I think KDK-3 deserved a nerf.

But not other Kodiaks... why did they nerfed other kodiaks?

[Alistair Winter]

Shame about the less powerful Kodiak variants, but it seemed to me that the comp community (and even most puggers) agreed that the KDK-3 was the most powerful assault mech in MWO by such a wide margin that bringing anything else for any reason except variation was largely pointless.

Look at the number of KDK-3's we've been seeing in the group queue and the tournament since it started. So... the KDK-3 was widely considered the best assault mech, yet... somehow it was perfectly balanced and didn't need to get nerfed? Ok.

Shame about the less powerful variants, but PGI gonna PGI. Not so much a nerf bat as nerf carpet bombing.

[Shard Phoenix]

The Quirkbat of Inouye isn't a precision weapon system.

It's a cluster**** (I mean bomb) style device filled with little senseless flechettes.

That said, I'm not convinced that the nerfs to the KDK are going to turn it into mothball status. I found the unquirked KDK-1 to be an acceptable 100t deathbot. I only sold it for C-bills because I didn't feel the need for another laser boat in the stable.

[Lily from animove]

Shard Phoenix, on 16 July 2016 - 02:29 AM, said:

The Quirkbat of Inouye isn't a precision weapon system.

It's a cluster**** (I mean bomb) style device filled with little senseless flechettes.

That said, I'm not convinced that the nerfs to the KDK are going to turn it into mothball status. I found the unquirked KDK-1 to be an acceptable 100t deathbot. I only sold it for C-bills because I didn't feel the need for another laser boat in the stable.

spreads like an lbx 20 on 1000m

[Elizander]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 July 2016 - 05:57 PM, said:

As for the KDK3s.... guess what? 90% of them never learned to twist anyhow...it's just stare and murder any idiot who stares back.

Most of them couldn't even hit moving targets. Not all, but most.

[Undercover Brother]

I totally called this, just after the Kodiak was announced...and got flamed for a week for calling the purchasers naïve. Bottom line: If PGI promises something awesome, everyone will spend money. Once the money is spent, the whiners (who will never spend a penny on a FTP game) will start up. PGI listens to them, because they're the most vocal group (and because PGI listens to those who DON'T pay their bills), PGI will then NERF the ever-loving sh*t out of it.

Here's a free tip: STOP SPENDING YOUR MONEY

PGI needs to learn not to a****** those who pay their bills...
It's actually the reason why I've twice suggested a monthly membership fee, instead of FTP.
FTP allows for too many whiny, b*tches.

[C E Dwyer]

Well somewhere in someones thread, I wrote, a nice big spread, wondering why I rage at P.G.I when I play games with less content like world of warships and world of tanks, and try to stop being so bitter about things.

Then P.G.I pull this Bull crap.

I'm not talking specifically the Bear, but the whole selection of quirks.

The only one they got close to being right is the Phoenix Hawk, the rest I think a 10 year old that has never played this game could come up with and been just as bad.


Edit opps sorry I forgot about the acceleration quirks duh..

Make that no mechs with half reasonable quirks

The drunk monkey pooping in a square was clearly let out its cage again

Edited by Cathy, 16 July 2016 - 05:58 AM.

[Gorgo7]

Boo Hoo. My fav mech got normalized...hahaha!
Nothing to see here, nothing to see...except that the hammer didn't JUST hit the Kodiak. Frankly, I would say many were long overdue since the re-size, Blackjack, Catapult (when did you expect to ever hear that!) Locust etc.

This topic would have been better posted in the Whine Forum.

[Coolant]

oh i love these threads...I'm smiling almost literally from ear to ear. I bought the kodiaks - and stopped playing them days after cause they were cheesy easy mode. ALWAYS assume a mech is gonna get nerfed, just like you assume an OP class in an MMO will get nerfed.

How about you that rely on OP mechs or meta-builds come down off your high tower and pilot ordinary mechs and builds. I realize that you will become average, but hey, you will never have to worry about nerfs!

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[C E Dwyer]

Yeonne Greene, on 15 July 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

Save your money, the game is a mile wide and an inch deep.

So like this one then ?

[Templar Dane]

Coolant, on 16 July 2016 - 05:59 AM, said:

oh i love these threads...I'm smiling almost literally from ear to ear. I bought the kodiaks - and stopped playing them days after cause they were cheesy easy mode. ALWAYS assume a mech is gonna get nerfed, just like you assume an OP class in an MMO will get nerfed.

How about you that rely on OP mechs or meta-builds come down off your high tower and pilot ordinary mechs and builds. I realize that you will become average, but hey, you will never have to worry about nerfs!

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh so all kodiaks are 'OP easy mode'. Uh huh.