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[Dingo Battler]

LOL @ anyone calling the KDK worthless.

Its still the BEST assault mech BY FAR, and probably the best mech overall.

Speed of a heavy, armour and firepower of an assault. Can't get better than that.

Admittedly, the 4xUAC10 build is no longer workable.

Just use 2xUAC5, 2xUAC10, 2xERML if you want to get around the ghost heat.

[MischiefSC]

I just do the 2x5, 2x10. If I add cermls I'd have to actually pay attention to heat sometimes before I'm like 300 or 400 damage into destroying a lance of mechs solo. Sure, you get a bit more alpha damage but if you're not getting **** done with 60pt alphas 74 and a bunch more heat isn't going to be your savior.

Run the 400XL, stick with the uacs. 11 tons of ammo is enough to get a Deathstar even if you're not that discriminating when you pull the trigger and the speed tends to pay off like it always does with engine upgrades.

[Novakaine]

You just got Archer'd

[El Bandito]

BallBuster, on 21 July 2016 - 04:06 PM, said:

Thanks to the developers, the latest patch has now made my Kodiak KDK-3 nowhere near as playable as it once was. I've got it setup in a popular configuration, with 4 C-UAC-10s and before, I could do about 5 alpha strikes before it would overheat. Now it's just 1. WTF???

These guys make us pay for things in the game, then when they get too many complaints about it being powerful after the fact, they cripple us! I say everyone who bought these Kodiak packages should be receiving a refund if they are going to pull this nonsense.

[Squirg]

[Razorfish]

1453 R, on 21 July 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:

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This would be the appropriate patch note. 'Heat Scale' is the original/Piranha name for what the forum universally refers to as Ghost Heat. What it means is that you were always supposed to generate this much heat when pressing the Blow-It-Up Button; you were always supposed to be staggering your shots. That was an error in the game code that was highlighted by the Kodiak release and fixed.

Try this: KDK-3 Nu Bad Touch. This should do you just fine. Five tons of ammo for each autocannon type, maxed-out engine, still has most of its arm armor, and has a couple of cERML pretty much strictly for shooting down UAVs that you can toss if you want two extra tons of AC ammo instead. Will still handle like a three-wheeled bus full of sumo wrestlers, but it's also still the Bad Touch Bear.

EDIT:: Just a few. Will get a CLiff Notes version of Ghost Heat explained in a moment, since the OP is apparently very new.

I face a K3 yesterday with build (or something very similar) in my Stalker. He ate my face in short order.

That said I have seen many K3’s on the battlefield in the last several day and they are still kicking butt and taking names.

[Elizander]

You can send me your useless Kodiaks. I'll take good care of them and keep them polished. :3

[N0ni]

BCAW, on 21 July 2016 - 08:25 PM, said:

I never would've thought that I'd find the Wisewolf of Yoitsu here.

I never would've thought i would ever watch Spice and Wolf or at least remember to do so, but i did recently.


Holo is <3

[Templar Dane]

Noob that knows nothing about ghost heat comes onto the forums to complain that the mech he bought is worthless. Thinks they nerfed the kodiak when it was actually the weapon that got changed.

Stress the didn't know about ghost heat mechanic since it's not well documented ingame.

You all jump on him, savoring the tears. A noob that didn't know any better and has 43 games under his belt, 29 of which are in an assault.

Maybe I'll start lobbying for a nerf to a strong IS mech, and then when it's nerfed I'll come make fun of you all.

[Icebergdx]

1453 R, on 21 July 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:

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This would be the appropriate patch note. 'Heat Scale' is the original/Piranha name for what the forum universally refers to as Ghost Heat. What it means is that you were always supposed to generate this much heat when pressing the Blow-It-Up Button; you were always supposed to be staggering your shots. That was an error in the game code that was highlighted by the Kodiak release and fixed.

Try this: KDK-3 Nu Bad Touch. This should do you just fine. Five tons of ammo for each autocannon type, maxed-out engine, still has most of its arm armor, and has a couple of cERML pretty much strictly for shooting down UAVs that you can toss if you want two extra tons of AC ammo instead. Will still handle like a three-wheeled bus full of sumo wrestlers, but it's also still the Bad Touch Bear.

EDIT:: Just a few. Will get a CLiff Notes version of Ghost Heat explained in a moment, since the OP is apparently very new.

To correct your post, you actually have 6 tons of ammo on that beast for each autocannon type (I counted 6 tons Uac 10 and 6 tons Uac 5.)

[Icebergdx]

N0ni, on 21 July 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

Kodiaks? Useless?

Sounds to me more like OP - Useless and clueless? LTP NEWB!

[L3mming2]

MischiefSC, on 21 July 2016 - 04:23 PM, said:

So because there was a bug that kept ghost heat from working effectively and the bug got fixed you feel cheated?

Because you feel you deserve to have an exploit in the game?

So if there are bugs and exploits in games they shouldn't be fixed because players who bought content are entitled to exploit them?

Next honest question -

Are you ****ing serious?

to be fair GH was working on 4 UAC10's it was 0.96, they changed it to +30 gh on fireing 4... so it was not a bug, they just changed the GH penalty for the UAC10s...

[Elizander]

L3mming2, on 22 July 2016 - 12:01 AM, said:

to be fair GH was working on 4 UAC10's it was 0.96, they changed it to +30 gh on fireing 4... so it was not a bug, they just changed the GH penalty for the UAC10s...

4 UAC10s deal the same damage at longer range than 2 UAC20s. 2 UAC20s will shut you down on an 80 damage double tap and now 4 UAC10s do the same thing. Seems pretty fair to me.

[PhoenixFire55]

Kodiak-3 wasn't OP before. Same way it isn't worthless now. Its just a mech, its about as good as you drive it.

[L3mming2]

Elizander, on 22 July 2016 - 12:46 AM, said:

4 UAC10s deal the same damage at longer range than 2 UAC20s. 2 UAC20s will shut you down on an 80 damage double tap and now 4 UAC10s do the same thing. Seems pretty fair to me.

not saying its not fair, i just think they use the frase "fixed a bug" because it will make ppl less mad then "whe have *15 the GH penalty on UAC10's"... i mean the quad (ore even 5) UAC10 builds where nothing new, dires have run them for years..

ps; for me personaly i could not care less, i run my KDK-3 with 2 UAC10's and 2 5's from the get go...

Edited by L3mming2, 22 July 2016 - 01:11 AM.

[Dingo Battler]

L3mming2, on 22 July 2016 - 01:09 AM, said:

not saying its not fair, i just think they use the frase "fixed a bug" because it will make ppl less mad then "whe have *15 the GH penalty on UAC10's"... i mean the quad (ore even 5) UAC10 builds where nothing new, dires have run them for years..

ps; for me personaly i could not care less, i run my KDK-3 with 2 UAC10's and 2 5's from the get go...

I initially ran it that way too, until the flood of 4xUAC10 thread flooded through, which caused me to switch about a month in.

Man, it was AMAZING. 4xUAC10s can kill any mech in roughly 3 seconds. I thought I'd get heat problems, but the enemy is long dead before that. The only time I had heat problems was fighting 2 mechs, and then, I could coolshot and kill both of them in 6 seconds. I think the KDK-3 is the only mech that can fight 1v2 and come out on top.

With 2xUAC5, 2xUAC10, 2xERML, you still need some finesse, poking, peeking, dance with them a bit, etc. but with the 4xUAC10s, it was just wading in and killing anything in your crosshairs.

The insanity is gone, but man, was it crazy while it lasted

[TWIAFU]

Tarl Cabot, on 21 July 2016 - 04:20 PM, said:

It is still the same mech, but even before you purchased it you were not aware that ghost heat was not working for that specific configuration, so you followed the crowd on the configuration and usage. If it had been working you would have been made adjustments to your firing pattern/usage.

Lemming are a funny bunch aren't they.

[Elizander]

L3mming2, on 22 July 2016 - 01:09 AM, said:

not saying its not fair, i just think they use the frase "fixed a bug" because it will make ppl less mad then "whe have *15 the GH penalty on UAC10's"... i mean the quad (ore even 5) UAC10 builds where nothing new, dires have run them for years..

ps; for me personaly i could not care less, i run my KDK-3 with 2 UAC10's and 2 5's from the get go...

Oh, I don't disagree with you on those points.

[Templar Dane]

Elizander, on 22 July 2016 - 02:34 AM, said:

Oh, I don't disagree with you on those points.

Then why was the whale an endangered species? You'd think the 4-5x UAC10 whales would have been the ak47 of assaults.

[M3 SABLE]

MEH
Switch to 2 Gauss 2 PPC build, and you will keep getting 1k dips even in Tier 0.
This build is also more range efficient.