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[An Innocent Urbie]

seems like T5 to T1 are in the same match now, that is good and it should have been like this.

Tiers should not be a factor in MM as we should be pit from the worst to the best player and only then those worst player can have a chance to improve themselves.

keep it up PGI I hope this will not change

[justcallme A S H]

Yeah I'm definitely getting T5 players in my matches at the moment. Both team and solo. I should probably be T1 but I've so rarely done any QP in the last 3 months which isn't helping.

I see some of the users posting in "New Player" help forum etc.

That said I disagree with you having them all lumped, they shouldn't be in a game with me for or against. While they will learn comms/positioning - they are getting stomped in team queue's. You can't learn advanced stuff if you have not got the basics sorted and/or are not fussed about it. Some of the games are full on.

I mean some people here are T4 and have been playing for a year. Which is fine, that is where their skill is at and that is cool, but should they be in T2/T1 matches and just get slapped silly constantly? Nope. They can't earn or learn if it's just a pure steamroll all the time. There is a fine line between learning when paired against better players and being outright discouraged.

Edited by R31Nismoid, 29 July 2016 - 06:39 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

This is not good. This is bad. Rolls are never fun.

An Innocent Urbie, on 29 July 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

Tiers should not be a factor in MM as we should be pit from the worst to the best player and only then those worst player can have a chance to improve themselves.

The worst players should be segregated from general population to spare good players from bad games and the bad players from getting stomped. The cream will rise to the top...

[Lukoi Banacek]

I bet you're getting T4, not T4, as you're T2 there R31. I'm sure they feel similar.

Group queue is very loose on MM, because you're bringing a group. Puglandia not so much.

[El Bandito]

Found this guy in a T1 match. What a waste of an Atlas.

Edited by El Bandito, 29 July 2016 - 06:51 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

El Bandito, on 29 July 2016 - 06:46 PM, said:

Found this guy in a T1 match. What a waste of an Atlas.

http://imgur.com/a/gRyij

[Signal27]

I often wonder to myself if we should just go back to not having any matchmaker at all, and matches are just thrown together on a first-come first-serve basis. It might speed up finding a match.

[justcallme A S H]

Lukoi Banacek, on 29 July 2016 - 06:45 PM, said:

I bet you're getting T4, not T4, as you're T2 there R31. I'm sure they feel similar.

Group queue is very loose on MM, because you're bringing a group. Puglandia not so much.

Yeah maybe... I'm dubious as to them being in T4. Given some of these guys are asking questions you'd expect a fresh T5 player to ask combined with their basic unawares in-game.

But yeah, is what it is. And it ain't good, and yeah, I'm sure they can't be having much fun.

El Bandito, on 29 July 2016 - 06:46 PM, said:

Found this guy in a T1 match. What a waste of an Atlas.

The last week I've seen more LRM Atlai than ever before. NFI why either.

[Tyler Valentine]

My buddy who just started was in the same solo queue game as me last night. T2 and T5 playing together confirmed.

[ImperialKnight]

all the matches are stupid recently. matchmaker is either broken or the Tier system is diluted to the point it doesn't matter anymore.

it is NOT good. good players get frustrated having to carry players who think carrying bringing 4 tons of ammo with 4xLRM20s and nothing else is a good idea. and new players get frustrated when they go from 100% health to dead in one 60-point laserdrill alpha and then calling it hax

in my 2+ years of playing, with all my complaints, i have never gotten to the point i felt like quitting and uninstalling. until now.

Edited by knightsljx, 29 July 2016 - 07:35 PM.

[Elizander]

I saw a Timberwolf in Rivercity who bumped into buildings and got stuck on them for 2-4 seconds every few steps and he could keep his laser on slow, large moving targets for maybe 10% of the duration (just one quick pass and never held on target). Higher tier players might as well consider him an AFK or DC.

[justcallme A S H]

Tyler Valentine, on 29 July 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

My buddy who just started was in the same solo queue game as me last night. T2 and T5 playing together confirmed.

Glad I'm not going crazy! Must be the group queue, PSR/MM just gets thrown to the wind.

[Alistair Winter]

Threads like these are ridiculous once you have started an alt account and gone from T1 to T5, spending a prolonged time in T4. It's not the same game as T1, it's not even the same universe. It's a weird alternate reality with gauss Adders and Centurion LRM boats chasing MG boating Atlases.

[xe N on]

I also don't have the feeling that there is too much tier gap. In T2, I frequently face excellent players that score high numbers - in my team as well as in the enemy team.

I also quite rarely notice strange builds. Most mechs are well optimized and LRMs are seldom. I'm constantly forced to bring the best to compete with team/enemy.

Edited by xe N on, 29 July 2016 - 10:03 PM.

[An Innocent Urbie]

Alistair Winter, on 29 July 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

Threads like these are ridiculous once you have started an alt account and gone from T1 to T5, spending a prolonged time in T4. It's not the same game as T1, it's not even the same universe. It's a weird alternate reality with gauss Adders and Centurion LRM boats chasing MG boating Atlases.

[Chuck Jager]

El Bandito, on 29 July 2016 - 06:46 PM, said:

Found this guy in a T1 match. What a waste of an Atlas.

Lrm Atlases have been around long before tiers were ever part of the game. Sooner or later they will move to a government job and resent their bosses and post on bizarre chat rooms under the assumption that the FBI is tracking them. But nobody will ever notice their lack of real effort/results unless it is to prey on an easy target just like middle school.

[Mole]

Mister Blastman, on 29 July 2016 - 06:44 PM, said:

This is not good. This is bad. Rolls are never fun.



The worst players should be segregated from general population to spare good players from bad games and the bad players from getting stomped. The cream will rise to the top...

Macho Man was a magician too, huh? Pulling coffee creamer out of thin air.

[El Bandito]

R31Nismoid, on 29 July 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

The last week I've seen more LRM Atlai than ever before. NFI why either.

Chuck Jager, on 29 July 2016 - 10:47 PM, said:

Lrm Atlases have been around long before tiers were ever part of the game. Sooner or later they will move to a government job and resent their bosses and post on bizarre chat rooms under the assumption that the FBI is tracking them. But nobody will ever notice their lack of real effort/results unless it is to prey on an easy target just like middle school.

My issue is not with that Atlas' choice of LRMs. LRM5s are lightweight CT seeking support weapons that doesn't really take much weight. My issue with that Atlas was the fact that aside from 3xLRM5s and 2xELLs, he had nothing. And he had too much ammo for the LRMs. All the while running 360 Std engine. This is a configuration only the steering wheel underhive can drive without dying of shame.

[MrMadguy]

An Innocent Urbie, on 29 July 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

seems like T5 to T1 are in the same match now, that is good and it should have been like this.

Tiers should not be a factor in MM as we should be pit from the worst to the best player and only then those worst player can have a chance to improve themselves.

keep it up PGI I hope this will not change

Yeah, this is the major reason, why I stopped playing this game, Since getting to Tier 3 game became unplayable for me, cuz, I guess, MM started to put Tier 1s into my teams. And now population of this game is so tiny, that PGI even need to open dump valves from Tier 5. And they don't even realize, that they make situation only worse.

[Yellonet]

Tyler Valentine, on 29 July 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

My buddy who just started was in the same solo queue game as me last night. T2 and T5 playing together confirmed.

I thought every new player was in T4?!