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[feeWAIVER]

Darth Hotz, on 07 August 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

Clanners got the best assault.
Clanners got the best medium.
Clanners got the best light.

While this is debatable, it is also moot.
FP is played with mostly Heavies.

Darth Hotz, on 07 August 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

Thats perfect, because it shows what the problem is. In faction play you did good, in free play you are at the bottom of skill. 32336 with a K/D ratio of 0.55.

Means, when its pure clan vs IS, even a low skilled player like you can wipe out better players. This illustrates the problem of the current state of balance perfectly. Thank you.

Also a moot argument. As FP is played with a team, and QP is puglife.


Darth, are you maybe taking this thread a little too personally?

[Terrastras Rex]

Darth Hotz, on 07 August 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

Thats perfect, because it shows what the problem is. In faction play you did good, in free play you are at the bottom of skill. 32336 with a K/D ratio of 0.55.

Means, when its pure clan vs IS, even a low skilled player like you can wipe out better players. This illustrates the problem of the current state of balance perfectly. Thank you.

That's not what it means at all actually. I disagree with your assessment. I played a lot of FP and got sealclubbed a lot due to the nature of solo vs 12man. I finally joined a 12man and now I club 12DG. When I play against skittles, I try to teach them how to play FP. Ask around, my mantras are well known. Even to Steiner skittles. ;D

"Welcome to FP, DONT bring LRMs, PUSH TOGETHER with your team, DROP heaviest mechs first" etc.

As for my K/D ratio.. Someone has to be the "Tip of the Spear" right? Might as well be a T-Rex in a Kodiak. ;D

The reason I removed the picture and used a different one was because I noticed it wasn't actually a gen rush, it was a counter-attack. The current picture proves my point just as well though. and I didnt even have to cyberstalk you. ;D

Bring your stompy robots to FIGHT instead of an on-rails shooter through a NASCAR course touring the OGENS1, 2, 3 you'll get more MC. ;D

Edited by Terrastras Rex, 07 August 2016 - 02:02 PM.

[Darth Hotz]

feeWAIVER, on 07 August 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

While this is debatable, it is also moot.
FP is played with mostly Heavies.


Also a moot argument. As FP is played with a team, and QP is puglife.


Darth, are you maybe taking this thread a little too personally?

No I dont. I am just pointing out facts.

IS heavies were nerfhammerd with the last two patches and nowadays you have to face 5-6 KDK 3s in the first and second wave of the game. Clan mediums are as strong as IS heavies and the most used IS heavies not only got nerfed, now the are also much taller and easier to hit. This while mostly being forced to use XL Engine to keep up with clanner speed.

That JF runs through Steiner space like a hot knife through butter has nothing to do with skill. It is because they have a clear advantage in firepower, speed and survivability. I know they have all the mercs at their side too, but where do mercs go? To the side that has the technical advantage.

Best of all is clanner complaining about getting the objective down or, as I had it twice now, complain that you go for their legs.

Clanners have to realize that more and more IS loyalist players are getting frustrated with this imbalance and stop playing FP. This is causing lower player numbers in this already nearly dead game mode. It should be in your own interest to get the balanced restored or you end up beating up PUG seals only.

If a dude from the bottom of skill who, in PUG, gets killed twice as many times before scoring a kill, can own in FP, it should give people that are interested in competitive gaming a lot to think about.

[Baulven]

Darth Hotz, on 07 August 2016 - 02:02 PM, said:

No I dont. I am just pointing out facts.

IS heavies were nerfhammerd with the last two patches and nowadays you have to face 5-6 KDK 3s in the first and second wave of the game. Clan mediums are as strong as IS heavies and the most used IS heavies not only got nerfed, now the are also much taller and easier to hit. This while mostly being forced to use XL Engine to keep up with clanner speed.

That JF runs through Steiner space like a hot knife through butter has nothing to do with skill. It is because they have a clear advantage in firepower, speed and survivability. I know they have all the mercs at their side too, but where do mercs go? To the side that has the technical advantage.

Best of all is clanner complaining about getting the objective down or, as I had it twice now, complain that you go for their legs.

Clanners have to realize that more and more IS loyalist players are getting frustrated with this imbalance and stop playing FP. This is causing lower player numbers in this already nearly dead game mode. It should be in your own interest to get the balanced restored or you end up beating up PUG seals only.

If a dude from the bottom of skill who, in PUG, gets killed twice as many times before scoring a kill, can own in FP, it should give people that are interested in competitive gaming a lot to think about.

Have you by chance tried an atlas drop to counter the KDK wave? The reason I ask is because once you get into knife fight range the three gets it's face pushed in like anything else. The thing that makes it difficult for IS is that the three fights at traditionally IS dominated range, and the nerf actually got it to start carrying better secondaries with the extra tonnage.

It's all about who has to walk into the others firing line.

[Terrastras Rex]

Darth Hotz, on 07 August 2016 - 02:02 PM, said:

If a dude from the bottom of skill who, in PUG, gets killed twice as many times before scoring a kill, can own in FP, it should give people that are interested in competitive gaming a lot to think about.

Just like Inner Sphere tactics, your assessment is flawed. =D

All of my QP matches were from a- when I was a total noob. b- mastering my mechs. pug life.

Once I tried FactionPlay I never looked back. Those QP stats are outdated + from when I was learning the game + no modules. Or, more recently from a "lights fight" event where I played a Mist Lynx and died, *a lot*.

If you have a problem with Kodiaks, you shouldn't have a 12man BlackKnight page in your playbook. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited by Terrastras Rex, 07 August 2016 - 02:14 PM.

[Baulven]

Terrastras Rex, on 07 August 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Just like Inner Sphere tactics, your assessment is flawed. =D

All of my QP matches were from a) when I was a total noob. mastering my mechs.

Once I tried FactionPlay I never looked back. Those QP stats are outdated + from when I was learning the game + no modules. Or, more recently from a "lights fight" event where I played a Mist Lynx and died, *a lot*.

If you have a problem with Kodiaks, you shouldn't have a 12man BlackKnight page in your playbook. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You did the event in the lynx? Masochistic much?

[Pat Kell]

Terrastras Rex, on 07 August 2016 - 12:44 PM, said:

Lolz. I played a lot of FP solo before joining up with a crew. Numbers can lie. ;D

You're 12DG right? Maybe if you played FP with them more often you'd know who I am.. ;D

Or maybe you're a visual learner? Here's a picture that might help.

Are you kidding me with this right now...Yea, just wanted to thank you for bolstering my spirit for what will need to get done before this can be addressed. And no, I am no longer going for Terra, that place no longer concerns me.

Edited by Pat Kell, 07 August 2016 - 03:59 PM.

[Terrastras Rex]

Pat Kell, on 07 August 2016 - 02:14 PM, said:

Are you kidding me with this right now...Yea, just wanted to thank you for bolstering my spirit for what will need to get done before this can be addressed. And no, I am no longer going for Terra, that place no longer concerns me.

the original picture was a 420 lance vs 12dg match.. but it wasn't a gen rush, so I removed it.. the replacement was just because he was calling me a scrub. ;D

[Pat Kell]

Terrastras Rex, on 07 August 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

the original picture was a 420 lance vs 12dg match.. but it wasn't a gen rush, so I removed it.. the replacement was just because he was calling me a scrub. ;D

I am well aware of what this is.

[Terrastras Rex]

Do tell? I don't understand either of your posts? =X =?

[Count Zero 74]

I've got a whole lot of screenshots from matches against 420 if anyone needs them. Just PM me, happy to be of service.

[Count Zero 74]

Btw, I found this in the 420 recruitment thread:

Terrastras Rex, on 06 June 2016 - 08:52 AM, said:

Yay for the new guys!

Recruiting is invite only for the moment. Do 1500 dmg on 4 mechs in Faction Play on the regular, and you can be considered. =D

Which is quite funny imo cause most of them struggle to break a 1000 whenever I play against them. As before PM for screenshots.

[Terrastras Rex]

yeah. like these ones.

http://imgur.com/a/LI4nO

http://imgur.com/a/T9zF2

its funny to see count zero 74 post on his steiner account, then switch to count zero74 to post on his ghost bear account. h0h0h0

Edited by Terrastras Rex, 08 August 2016 - 08:55 AM.

[CMetz]

Lol, wow. This is entertaining... popcorn anyone?

TRex- 1.84 w/l, .76 kdr

Count Zero 74- 3.76 w/l, 1.41 kdr

Really difficult to figure out who is the superior pilot here.

[Terrastras Rex]

=D

No one is arguing about superior pilot skills. Count isnt even in those screenshots. ;D

He's super pro just like Darth Hotz! =D

I just think its funny that they have to research my quickplay stats, and then crossquote other threads where I clearly state "yay for the new guys!"

Am I not allowed to have an opinion on FP changes? or Gen rushes?

Are my opinions invalid?

Can I even post on these forums?

Maybe FP is dead cause you guys are dillholes. ;D

Edited by Terrastras Rex, 08 August 2016 - 09:49 AM.

[Nerdboard]

Terrastras Rex, on 08 August 2016 - 09:47 AM, said:

=D

No one is arguing about superior pilot skills. Count isnt even in those screenshots. ;D

He's super pro just like Darth Hotz! =D

I just think its funny that they have to research my quickplay stats, and then crossquote other threads where I clearly state "yay for the new guys!"

Am I not allowed to have an opinion on FP changes? or Gen rushes?

Are my opinions invalid?

Can I even post on these forums?

Maybe FP is dead cause you guys are dillholes. ;D

Sorry but I dont see how the others are the offenders here when your first post says IS sucks and the second is a screenshot trying to intimidate people with how pro you or your unit are.

If you actually look at this threads post history you will see that you are the very first one trying to offend people here. Maybe it was meant ironic since your unit (and I am guessing you as well) partakes in plenty of gen-rushes as well... but not everyone will know your name, your unit or that fact... so if it was indeed ironic maybe you should clarify that first.

It doesnt make your opinions invalid but it does hurt your credibility... which is due to lack of arguments in this thread really the only thing that could count.

[Count Zero 74]

Nerdboard, on 08 August 2016 - 10:08 AM, said:

Sorry but I dont see how the others are the offenders here when your first post says IS sucks and the second is a screenshot trying to intimidate people with how pro you or your unit are.

If you actually look at this threads post history you will see that you are the very first one trying to offend people here. Maybe it was meant ironic since your unit (and I am guessing you as well) partakes in plenty of gen-rushes as well... but not everyone will know your name, your unit or that fact... so if it was indeed ironic maybe you should clarify that first.

It doesnt make your opinions invalid but it does hurt your credibility... which is due to lack of arguments in this thread really the only thing that could count.

Don't bother man, noone takes 420 seriously anymore and why do you think some of the best CJF units went Ghost Bear

And since he posted some screenshots here are a few of mine:


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Edited by Count Zero 74, 08 August 2016 - 10:22 AM.

[B0oN]

Lukoi Banacek, on 07 August 2016 - 06:28 AM, said:

What's wrong with gen-rushing really? Valid tactic. Deal with it?

LEG EVERYONE !
EVER !

[Terrastras Rex]

Nerdboard, on 08 August 2016 - 10:08 AM, said:

Sorry but I dont see how the others are the offenders here when your first post says IS sucks and the second is a screenshot trying to intimidate people with how pro you or your unit are.

If you actually look at this threads post history you will see that you are the very first one trying to offend people here. Maybe it was meant ironic since your unit (and I am guessing you as well) partakes in plenty of gen-rushes as well... but not everyone will know your name, your unit or that fact... so if it was indeed ironic maybe you should clarify that first.

It doesnt make your opinions invalid but it does hurt your credibility... which is due to lack of arguments in this thread really the only thing that could count.

Saying "IS sucks" is banter. FRR is IS and they crush us just fine.

The screenshot was already after I had been called an "unknown voice from the bottom of the leaderboard" .. I don't gen rush.

Nor do I speak for [420], or have I tried to intimidate anyone on behalf of myself or my unit. =X

Never mind, I'm gone. Keep your forums 12DG + alt accounts, I won't return, I'll be ingame.

Edited by Terrastras Rex, 08 August 2016 - 11:23 AM.

[Pat Kell]

Terrastras Rex, on 08 August 2016 - 10:21 AM, said:

Saying "IS sucks" is banter.

The screenshot was already after I had been called an "unknown voice from the bottom of the leaderboard" .. I don't gen rush.

Nor do I speak for [420], or have I tried to intimidate anyone on behalf of myself or my unit. =X

Never mind, I'm gone. Keep your forums 12DG + alt accounts, I won't return, I'll be ingame.

Saying IS sucks isn't banter, it's a flat out insult and everyone here saw it. You wonder why people keep coming after you on these posts, well, that's why. You say insulting things and then try to cover it up by claiming you were just joking around.

It's good that you claim that you don't speak for 420, but that being the case, maybe it would be best for you not to come in here and start speaking for 420. You can deny it all you want, but your actions will reflect on your unit and have consequences for your unit whether you like it or not. I don't see Silas or any other 420 member on here trying to straightened out the record so that leads people to think that maybe you are speaking for 420 even if you claim that you're not. And yes, I have seen several posts made by you that were an attempt to intimidate your opponent or to brag about how 420 is doing (just another form of intimidation). Neither of these qualities will endear you to people here so if that is a concern of yours, you might want to consider your words more carefully next time.

Edited by Pat Kell, 08 August 2016 - 10:46 PM.