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[SirSoggyDog]

I agree with the above, there's going to be little comparison between the IS MAD and this thing; the latter's extra tonnage and clan XL will make sure of that.

That being said, I do view the notion that this will eclipse the IS 85 tonners a little off-base. The energy boats will run extremely hot, the A can have it's 3xballistic torso dropped fairly easily, and most the other variants have to deal with mixed weapons. I'm not saying the IIC is going to be bad by any means, it's just not going to be meta like the KDK.

[SlightlyMobileTurret]

Lemming of the BDA, on 27 August 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

Itll kick the battlemaster out of top tier assault. And the A version will shine brightest, 2 uac 10s and 4 ermed or med pulse, or triple uac 5s with 4 ermeds or something similar. Its gonna be a monster. The other energy boat models will be fine too. Clan tech +battlemaster weight and mobility, look the F out.

Really? IS weapons have made all the difference in the past, and the BLR-2C still has gorilla arms and far superior tankiness.

[The Lost Boy]

The only thing the BLR 2C will have on the Mad 2C is the highmounts. The clan xl gives it the edge.

[The Lost Boy]

Try this. Clan xl 375. Ferro, endo. Mark 1 targ comp. 4 clan large pulse. 25 dhs. More fire power than the 5 lpl blr2c, as fast, and better range. And can loose a side torso and not die. And cooler. Not as good hard point location but all the other things make the mad better.

[The Lost Boy]

Or the new wubmaster, clan xl 400, 8 cmed pulse, mark 1 tc, ferro, endo, and 26 dhs. Just brutal.

[NeoCodex]

After watching Kanijashi's "worth a buy" video he convinced me that this mech is worth getting for the full package, with hero and reinforcements included.

But whoah, slow down there buddy. I'm not actually saying you should buy all of it now. I only picked up basic pack for the early adopter thing now, and will make final decisions about upgrading on the release day, once we see the mech in the game.

But I am quite honestly, very strongly convinced, that the variants you get in the reinforcement and the hero, will all be very, very good mechs. The ECM could be either a gauss sniper or a brawler, the other reinforcement mech is the only one with jump jets and a balistic on the RT, the hero can be a full on splat brawler with quad SRMs and ballistics, and the prime versions are primarily laser boats with the collector variant actually being decent this time as your choice for laser boating.

Not to mention it's all IIC tech with customisable engines, clan endo and ferro.. Marauder is good as it is, and this only improves on it's design, with no actual drawbacks that I would see.

So if you're eventually doing full purchase of this one, this might be the only mech that it's worthing doing it for. Not even the Kodiaks delivered anything spectacular besides the Spirit Bear, and KDK-1 collector is pretty trashy as well. So, again, the MAR-IIC:

1. Will be a very solid mech all around
2. Reinforcement gives you two unique mechs and different playstyles from the base 3
3. Hero is unique as well and will likely be a strong brawler

And the unique camos are pretty cool imho, if not one of the best ones but that is to personal taste.

With just the basic pack tough, you're mostly stuck to boring laser boating or some kind of dakka build on one of the variants. Nothing too exciting. But full package this time around actually could be a good deal for once.

Edited by NeoCodex, 01 September 2016 - 01:25 AM.

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

I would have purchased this mech... But Energy Draw has my wallet closed atm, and I am now in "wait and see" mode.

But let me just make a hypothesis...

Running dual gauss in the high mounted torso might be a beast of a mech! Sure you loose out on XL engine... But poking your super high gun barrel bearly above a ridge might be a scary gun emplacement! (Especially if its backed up by Some type of lasers in the arms... Maybe some PPCs?)

If my wallet wasnt closed, I would buy this mech in a heart beat!

[Oldbob10025]

Yea at this point at a wait and see mode myself as I have to redo SOOOOOOOOO many videos with new builds

[NeoCodex]

Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky, on 01 September 2016 - 10:09 AM, said:

I would have purchased this mech... But Energy Draw has my wallet closed atm, and I am now in "wait and see" mode.

But let me just make a hypothesis...

Running dual gauss in the high mounted torso might be a beast of a mech! Sure you loose out on XL engine... But poking your super high gun barrel bearly above a ridge might be a scary gun emplacement! (Especially if its backed up by Some type of lasers in the arms... Maybe some PPCs?)

If my wallet wasnt closed, I would buy this mech in a heart beat!

Uh... I'm not sure you'll be able to do dual torso gauss on this mech.

Oh.. actually, you can.. Interesting. So you could build a sword&board std build on this, with 2 large pulse in the arm? And you could fit in some JJ too!

Here's a quick mock up for possible double gauss I made with my pro™ mspaint skills:



We can move some ammo to CT, forgot to place it there.

We could also most certainly find space for additional jump jet in this build with addition of the glorious Clam tech FF (layout used for this was STK-M).

Edited by NeoCodex, 02 September 2016 - 04:38 AM.

[invernomuto]

I bought the base pack on the last day to get the early adopter rewards.
I really like the marauder chassis and I could not miss the Clan version.

Edit: it's a pity that they do not have Clan XL

Edited by invernomuto, 02 September 2016 - 05:08 AM.

[NeoCodex]

Stock engines are ussualy a pretty bad fit and you need to buy another one to optimize the build anyway. Just sell the extra variant you get for the early reward and you have your cbills for the engine. And sell the std ones, you will probably not need them except maybe get a std 300 for the double gauss reinforcements build I presented above.

Also, from the base variant the IIC-B comes with 340XL.

[Black Lanner]

Not sure that I can add anything that hasn't already been posted...
I will simply say that comparing the IIC to the orginal IS MAD is like comparing the Timberwolf to the Madcat III, there are simply too many differences. I had some extra spending money last month, so I managed the early adopter... so looking forward to hopping inside a triple shotgun 5 build...

[Yogge Mothi]

I bought the standard pack knowing that energy draw will likely be implemented by December. Under the current iteration of the energy draw system, clan DHS heat capacity has been buffed and you can fire 3 CERLLs at a time w/o ghost heat. The MADIIC can fit 6 CERLL on its left side (2CT, 2LT, 2 LA) with a 340XL, TC1, CAP, and 28DHS cooling it down. This completely asymmetric build is going to be absolutely brutal. Personally, I'm really looking forward to this beast when it comes out.

Edited by Yogge Mothi, 11 September 2016 - 08:19 PM.