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[BLOOD WOLF]

I have never actually seen a more selfish player on the forums. I cant believe that you are literally disregarding the things people wanted because your not satisfied. Some of those things are items that people were waiting awhile for aswell and to them were just as important. The game is still being worked on, its not as if they stopped working at it.

I will say it before, if they didn't care enough they wouldn't still be working on it. They can just as well make some other game. Instead they are trying to make the game that matter to some of us.

Like i said in another thread, there is room for discussion and rational discourse where ideas can flow like milk and honey. But you are just hostile.

sorry everyone else wasted your time becuase they wanted things that on a development scale were easier to make than FW, which they are still working on.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 09 August 2016 - 03:39 AM.

[PhoenixFire55]

BLOOD WOLF, on 09 August 2016 - 03:38 AM, said:

I will say it before, if they didn't care enough they wouldn't still be working on it. They can just as well make some other game. Instead they are trying to make the game that matter to some of us.

LMAO ... Trying?
Is posting a roadmap 40 days past the supposed day called trying now?
And how many items out of that roadmap are actually gonna happen in time or happen at all?
If you think that is trying then you've never been trying in your entire life.

BLOOD WOLF, on 09 August 2016 - 03:38 AM, said:

Like i said in another thread, there is room for discussion and rational discourse where ideas can flow like milk and honey. But you are just hostile.

Maybe because they are "trying" so hard to make me hostile by being utterly clueless and inept?

BLOOD WOLF, on 09 August 2016 - 03:38 AM, said:

sorry everyone else wasted your time becuase they wanted things that on a development scale were easier to make than FW, which they are still working on.

Yeah, we know ... Soon^TM.
Phase.3 Phase.7 is going to magically save it.

PhoenixFire55, on 08 August 2016 - 02:20 AM, said:

I don't know how much more FU PGI needs to throw in some peoples faces for them to lose "faith". At this point its either mental, or simply being on a payroll.

So, which of the two are you?

[Ibrandul Mike]

On topic: I like the roadmap. And yes it was too late for my liking... but it was still quite long before the patch. Ok for my definition of long.
As for the planned things: I quite like them. No major overhauls despite Terra Thermal and the Stock mode plus variants but I can live with that. The quality of life improvements look good on paper. And nearly everything (or everything?) was requested at least by parts of the community. And yes I like to have a look into the near future. I still hope to get more info on the changes for FP in the near future. And of course on Solaris. All in all I am quite happy as long as everything is delivered.
Oh and the mach packs are one thing the roadmaps don't need in this way. Hits on new mach announcements would suit them better. Of course there is salt whichever way they do it. But the mach packs that are already announced are set in stone, more or less. It is the main revenue for PGI I think. So they won't change them on the way.
The next thing is that it is a roadmap. Not a promise. It is what is planned not what will come no matter what... So I take it with a bit more caution.

Offtopic: I don't have enough popcorn for private wars on the forums. And I am fat enough. Neither one will get the other one to see his point. Just let it be. Yes there are community ideas that are acted upon. If those are the right ones I have no clue. I am just happy it goes forward.

[Hornviech]

There should be a stock mode in Quick Play Matches.

Without Quirks
Without Ghostheat
Without every nerf that PGI put out since Clans arrived!

[Yellonet]

Loyalty mechs for MC... what's up with that?

Hornviech, on 09 August 2016 - 04:38 AM, said:

There should be a stock mode in Quick Play Matches.

Without Quirks
Without Ghostheat
Without every nerf that PGI put out since Clans arrived!

Yes and without clan mechs. Or do you just want more easy mode?

[AmazingOnionMan]

Peter2k, on 08 August 2016 - 01:46 PM, said:

hey stock mode
guess it's nice, but not exactly like I couldn't have done it now while doing a private match, at least sort of, with quirks and mastering mechs left out
what happened to stock mech mondays?

Hey PGI, have a free idea: every monday the PremiumTime-requirement is waived for the stockists.

[Lily from animove]

PhoenixFire55, on 09 August 2016 - 03:07 AM, said:

Lets put it this way ... count the amount of times people asked for something that really matters ... i.e. meaningful FW, working MM, non-skirmish game modes, new maps, weapon balance compared to the amount of times people asked for something like art updates for existing maps or "favorite" mech. When a hundred people ask for thing.no.1 and three people ask for thing.no.2 - doing thing.no.2 isn't doing what people are asking for. Especially considering that thing.no.2 changes absolutely nothing.



Yes yes. Community Warfare phase.1, 2, 3, 4 and whatever are also all steps of many ... leading nowhere. Same with MM phase.1, 2 and whatever it is what we have now. The basic principles of CW is built upon are broken, same way the PSR that MM is using is broken by design. Being able to put a smiley faces on your mech is just the same ... broken by design, and clearly not what people asked for during these 4 years.



Thats right, I'm on the forum, but not on Twitter or any of the idiotic townhalls, so I do know what forum asks for. And 99% of what forum asks for is ignored.

townhalls and devlogs get furm posts too with sumarries.

and yes PGI tried various FW stages and they all failed, and tbh they will all fail because FW is nothing than an RVR mode where organisation and guild size matters. PGI will never ever be bale to fix this. Because you can't fix players.

Edited by Lily from animove, 09 August 2016 - 05:16 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Lily from animove, on 09 August 2016 - 05:16 AM, said:

townhalls and devlogs get furm posts too with sumarries.

and yes PGI tried various FW stages and they all failed, and tbh they will all fail because FW is nothing than an RVR mode where organisation and guild size matters. PGI will never ever be bale to fix this. Because you can't fix players.

gotta love the ingenuity on some people. They will get past anything.

[Ibrandul Mike]

Why on Mondays? I mean interesting idea but why only one day and not changing days? On the other side... whoever buys mech packs should have enough premium time. If you play with 23 others surely one should have the premium time. One to four free days premium time per month might be even favorable. If it would be usable when you want it.
But that might be too much to ask for. What about one day per month? And remember I can't speak for PGI. It is just my curiosity.

At the moment two people with premium time are needed to form a lobby with less than 24 players if I remember correctly.

[Idealsuspect]

The Nerf Bat, on 08 August 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

• Use Select ‘Mech screen when editing Drop Decks

• Consistent use of the main Select ‘Mech select function for the new Multiple Drop Deck system, rather than the minor custom version you’ll see in the initial August patch.

This is the problem of PGI >>> " rather than the minor custom version you’ll see in the initial August patch. "

Well why release a new feature directly in "minor custom version" and a "final version" 1 month after ...
You want 50% of people decide they dont need this feature because its in "minor custom version ".. ?

Anyway...

[lazytopaz]

IMO they tried (and are still trying) to build a house without foundation that is a big, active and HAPPY playerbase.
And playerbase constantly asked for NEW maps, game modes, weapons, modules, QoL improvements which in many cases are staggeringly obvious :
- like working chat during "search for game" (wow finally mentioned on the road map after so goddamn long)
- talking with people from outside of your friendlist
and numerous others I will not bring here.

They keep on ignoring and/or being sloppy with any reaction... and that's why we are where we are.

They don't talk WITH us. Our voice is either ignored or "overdue, too little too late". When they actually adress something it's a thing that was mentioned/suggested at least year ago.
It just feels like they don't give $hit anymore, and just want to milk whatever is left of community.

Outcome is rather obvious. Direction where this ship is sailing as well. Well more like floating towards.

Nothing but immediate 180 degree change in their behaviour could change the mood of the forums.
To the point of weekly basis devlog with walls of text about things they are doing, things they are planning and things that had been done recently. With community managers spamming info, replies and taking stuff from forum talking about it with devs and reporting back on forum with the outcome and additional explanation/questions.

Am I asking too much? Considering the lack of communication and overall mood. That wouldnt be too much to ask. It's more of mandatory obligation on their part if they want to redeem themselves in the eyes of the community.

My personal request to any member of this community is to vote with your wallet. It means close it all toegether. They don't want to deal with us then it's time to take matters into the another level. This way we'll find out if MWO is already walking it's last steps or they get their $hit toegether and do something right for a change.

Edited by lazytopaz, 09 August 2016 - 05:56 AM.

[Lehmund]

Bud Crue, on 08 August 2016 - 12:37 PM, said:

Edit: can anyone explain why the limit of only 4 drop decks? If I want to waste the $ why can't I have more than the two additional decks?

There will be an announced option to buy other save slots for MC.

[Bud Crue]

Lehmund, on 09 August 2016 - 05:56 AM, said:

There will be an announced option to buy other save slots for MC.

Maybe I am misunderstanding. The road map says we get two for free and that we can buy two more for MC, for a total of four. What I am asking is why only four, or do you think they are going to let us buy even more than that? The road map would suggest that 4 is the hard limit.

[Yellonet]

Bud Crue, on 09 August 2016 - 06:04 AM, said:

Maybe I am misunderstanding. The road map says we get two for free and that we can buy two more for MC, for a total of four. What I am asking is why only four, or do you think they are going to let us buy even more than that? The road map would suggest that 4 is the hard limit.

It might just be an interface thing, as more than four drop decks may not be shown on the screen in a good way.
Anyway, four is better than one, right?

[Mudhutwarrior]

This is PGI's Road map...



If you haven't figured that out yet I feel sorry for you.

[SQW]

It's surprising the response to the latest road map on twitter and this forum is the exact opposite.

Are twitter people just that much easier to please? No wonder PGI reserve most of their response and social media interactions over there. Heck, if PGI ignores the forum, it would probably feel it's doing a bang up job.

[Bud Crue]

Yellonet, on 09 August 2016 - 06:09 AM, said:

It might just be an interface thing, as more than four drop decks may not be shown on the screen in a good way.
Anyway, four is better than one, right?

Oh yes, certainly. I was just wondering why 4 is the magic number. Someone above suggested it might be a performance issue that could affect load times. So there's potentially my answer. My original question was just curiosity as to why they would limit people's ability to throw money at them. I assume there is a reason for the limit, and the comment about load times makes sense to me (edit: as does your comment that it could be related to the interface). To be honest I had hoped for 6 decks (hot attack and defense, cold attack and defense, hero/fun deck and default deck), but I will make due with what they give us. It'll be refreshing just to have more than one.

Edited by Bud Crue, 09 August 2016 - 06:27 AM.

[Mudhutwarrior]

SQW, on 09 August 2016 - 06:24 AM, said:

It's surprising the response to the latest road map on twitter and this forum is the exact opposite.

Are twitter people just that much easier to please? No wonder PGI reserve most of their response and social media interactions over there. Heck, if PGI ignores the forum, it would probably feel it's doing a bang up job.

Those who take the time to be on twitter are usually just brownnosers looking for a mod position or the ever hopeful kids who still believe that rubbing the unicorns horn will make their wishes come true.

[Savage Wolf]

s0da72, on 08 August 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

it's to bad they can't add 'stock mode' as a quick play option people can vote on.

No. Hell no. No! Never. Nope. Forget it. NO!

[vocifer]

SQW, on 09 August 2016 - 06:24 AM, said:

It's surprising the response to the latest road map on twitter and this forum is the exact opposite.

Are twitter people just that much easier to please? No wonder PGI reserve most of their response and social media interactions over there. Heck, if PGI ignores the forum, it would probably feel it's doing a bang up job.

They just ban sh1t-talking people on their twitter page. The thing they won't do here on forums.