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[Narcissistic Martyr]

I thought a snipers main job was to be a snack for light mechs...

[dervishx5]

The Sniper's main job is to sit on the top deck of 2Fort and not contribute to the match.

[KHETTI]

So the jist of this thread is not about sniper mechs at all (i hate that term, this isn't CoD!....or is it?), but about the importance of shooting down enemy UAV's, and i agree.
I shoot them down as quickly as i can, for every second that the enemy has a UAV up, that's a second closer to a win for them.

[Metus regem]

.... not well represented in MWO....

A sniper's primary role is to disrupt hostile forces, act as a force multiple and provide intelligence.

In MWO a sniper is an idiot that thinks going lone wolf in a team environment is a good idea. Effectively making it 12 v 11 for the rest of his team.... now in PuGLife, it might work, but in team play, not so much.

[DaZur]

Metus regem, on 09 August 2016 - 01:09 PM, said:

.... not well represented in MWO....

A sniper's primary role is to disrupt hostile forces, act as a force multiple and provide intelligence.

In MWO a sniper is an idiot that thinks going lone wolf in a team environment is a good idea. Effectively making it 12 v 11 for the rest of his team.... now in PuGLife, it might work, but in team play, not so much.

Bullpucky.

No offense but if a sniper (I prefer ranged support myself) does their job it is not 11 versus 12, unless you consider me tanking damage for the team?

I can enumerate the times I've single handly suppressed half the team, allowing brawlers to close ranks and do their job. Which they never would have had opportunity if not for ranged support.

In fact... I argue a good sniper is in fact a force multiplyer!

[Metus regem]

DaZur, on 09 August 2016 - 02:05 PM, said:

Bullpucky.

No offense but if a sniper (I prefer ranged support myself) does their job it is not 11 versus 12, unless you consider me tanking damage for the team?

I can enumerate the times I've single handly suppressed half the team, allowing brawlers to close ranks and do their job. Which they never would have had opportunity if not for ranged support.

In fact... I argue a good sniper is in fact a force multiplyer!

That's why I said in my opening statement:

Metus regem, on 09 August 2016 - 01:09 PM, said:

.... not well represented in MWO....

A sniper's primary role is to disrupt hostile forces, act as a force multiple and provide intelligence.

In MWO a sniper is an idiot that thinks going lone wolf in a team environment is a good idea. Effectively making it 12 v 11 for the rest of his team.... now in PuGLife, it might work, but in team play, not so much.

I guess I should've clarified, that in MWO usually a sniper is an idiot.... You how ever are not an idiot, but are doing exactly what a sniper should be doing.

Edited by Metus regem, 09 August 2016 - 02:23 PM.

[Novakaine]

I like lrmin snipers, one of my primary duites.
Sooooo satisfying

[dervishx5]

Novakaine, on 09 August 2016 - 02:27 PM, said:

I like lrmin snipers, one of my primary duites.
Sooooo satisfying

Novakaine, on 09 August 2016 - 02:27 PM, said:

I like lrmin snipers

Novakaine, on 09 August 2016 - 02:27 PM, said:

lrmin

[Metus regem]

Novakaine, on 09 August 2016 - 02:27 PM, said:

I like lrmin snipers, one of my primary duites.
Sooooo satisfying

Little known pick of Novakaine in action:

[Elizander]

Shooting down UAVs quickly can really win you the game. Could mean the difference between your fatties dealing high damage or getting shot down by LRMs within the first few minutes.

[Novakaine]

Elizander, on 09 August 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

Shooting down UAVs quickly can really win you the game. Could mean the difference between your fatties dealing high damage or getting shot down by LRMs within the first few minutes.

Sssssssh bro.

[Bulletsponge0]

WarPickle, on 09 August 2016 - 07:39 AM, said:

Snipers are not cowards... are you butt hurt because they kill you? The real cowards are the brawlers that hide behind obstacles and try to snipe with their med lasers from 500-600 out never attempting to close the gap until the coward snipers and lurmers wear down the enemy with their fire.... then they come to the forums and make threads calling long range cowards and a waste.. when in fact without them they would never close the gaps with their mechs to even get in the fight...

On a little side note, I have no snipers in my mechbay... just sick of whiney little babies telling other players that their playstyle is all wrong... I said it before there are roles to play in each of the classes.. you get butt hurt by the long range support role maybe you should go play minecraft...

also everyone should shoot down uavs when able not just snipers... you can't tell me when you are hiding behind your rock you can't pop out to shoot at them

problem is when the UAV is directly over the teams head, and the sniper completely ignores it...that gives a tremendous advantage to the enemy

[C E Dwyer]

Sniper is a crack shot that stays behind after the other troops have left to take a toll on the other force until he is finally eliminated, though these days the hiding place is no longer a church bell tower of holly wood choice, but a mountain in the next valley to your target.

In MWO its a selfish bugger that sits at the back, not sharing armour, and pretending he's doing it for the team

[MechWarrior319348]

Shooting down uav's with a guass rifle is good practice. It bobs up and down, and its tiny.

It forces you to put your crossair on a tiny point quickly. If you can get the crossair to go directly to it in one mouse stroke then you have made progress.

Aim small, miss small.

Perhaps this will give incentive for people to start looking for them.

[MechWarrior319348]

Cathy, on 09 August 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

Sniper is a crack shot that stays behind after the other troops have left to take a toll on the other force until he is finally eliminated, though these days the hiding place is no longer a church bell tower of holly wood choice, but a mountain in the next valley to your target.

In MWO its a selfish bugger that sits at the back, not sharing armour, and pretending he's doing it for the team

Hes getting shot at by the enemy's snipers. If you dont have a sniper on your team, then you can count on there being an *** on the enemy team that is gonna hammer you from outside your effective range. And its gonna piss you off.

[Idealsuspect]

What a sniper role isnt to rush alone a bunch of 3 - 4 ennemy ?
Damn also my deads teamates are lying to me, i am right to not follow theirs wise advices

Something funny is when after a sniper kill down 7 uavs on caustic his team, which didnt use uavs, just won very close like 12 - 10 they still think killing uavs is waste of time... mokay ...

"team" someone said ??
No, just a bunch of randoms pugs.

Edited by Idealsuspect, 09 August 2016 - 03:58 PM.

[Thejuggla]

Snipers shouldn't bring armor that way they don't have to share it!

[Funkin Disher]

Some of you people just amaze me at times.

Are you really trying to say that something like my twin PPC cicada is a waste of space on your team? Or does that not fall into the sniper category?

How do you define sniper in this game? How is sharing damage taken the best thing you can do in a match? If someone on your team is denying the enemy the chance to remove your armor in the first place is that not good enough?

I have a couple brawler mechs. I have a couple of light skirmishers. I have a couple of long range support builds. I believe all of these have a place on a team, denying yourself any of these in a team is hamstringing yourself.

[dervishx5]

Funkin Disher, on 09 August 2016 - 04:49 PM, said:

Some of you people just amaze me at times.

Are you really trying to say that something like my twin PPC cicada is a waste of space on your team? Or does that not fall into the sniper category?

How do you define sniper in this game? How is sharing damage taken the best thing you can do in a match? If someone on your team is denying the enemy the chance to remove your armor in the first place is that not good enough?

I have a couple brawler mechs. I have a couple of light skirmishers. I have a couple of long range support builds. I believe all of these have a place on a team, denying yourself any of these in a team is hamstringing yourself.

Those of us saying snipers are useless mean in a coordinated environment. All-or-nothing strategy has been proven to beat out the jack-of-all-trades team loadout time and time again in the competitive environment.

If you're pulling 500+ damage and 2+ kills on your team with your Cicada and beating out Sgt. Dumbo in his sub 100 damage Black Knight, then yes you're pulling your weight. But you'd be doing more close up in a similar-weight Blackjack taking immediate advantage of people shooting at Dumbo, and maybe he'd be able to take some advantage of people shooting at you. That's the concept of sharing armor.

And experience displays that's the better strategy for competitive games. A bundle of 12 sticks is stronger than an 11 stick bundle and one annoying twig.

Edited by dervishx5, 09 August 2016 - 04:57 PM.

[MauttyKoray]

Brizna, on 09 August 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

Shooting down UAVs. Yes seriously, it is. You are a bit of a coward, you are making your team mate's put forward all their armor so you can fire unchallenged, you may think your job is firing at mechs, and while we brawlers and people who try to carry your team appreciate fire support we need you to shot down UAVs more than that, we can not shot that which is above our heads. You being back there is an excellent opportunity to help us out of tight spot, please do, above anything else you are doing back there..., please don't let the people who are offering their armor to the enemy team so you can comfortably snipe die to LURMS just because you are too busy scraping enemy mech's armor from 800 meters; Thanks!!

As a sniper (read: AC2 Locust...yes you heard me) my job was to cause confusion, havoc, and make the enemy team lose focus, disengage, or otherwise divert their attention from where it was needed. Peppering them in their backs to make them turn and look (especially missile boats) was one of my specialties in this mech. Causing reduced fire, opportunities for team mates to first without return damage, allow them to flank unnoticed/with minimal risk, etc.