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Please Stop Calling It " Energy Draw " Because It Has Nothing To Do With Energy-Draw.


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#21 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:34 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 09 August 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:

its gh 2.0. i wouldn't call it anything else.

and gh2 is needed because of the lack of sim features. not to say it is one itself. on the contrary its very fudgy (see op). but it does solve problems which would also be solved by actual sim features like non-instant convergence. power management would be the least fun way to do sim features (the wrong way to sim). mechwarrior should be a sim but its hard to sell sims to people who just want a point and click game.


You must be thinking of that MechSimulator game, that first became popular NEVER.

#22 dervishx5

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:35 AM

View PostFupDup, on 09 August 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

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But on a serious note, Guzzler does have a point. If PGI focuses Ghost Energy on just raw alpha strike damage, this means that it will seriously mess up weapon balancing. Weapons with high alpha but other weaknesses like lasers would get pooped on, while weapons with low alpha strike but high firing rate (AC's) get to mostly sidestep the system.

Pea Gee Eye has many opportunities to mess it up...


Gas always has good points. But I was just seeing who'd take the bait first.

BTW Johnny Z, that's called trolling.

#23 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:36 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 09 August 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:


Gas always has good points.


Unless they are in that one thread on nstalkers.com... Posted Image

#24 dervishx5

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:37 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 09 August 2016 - 10:36 AM, said:


Unless they are in that one thread on nstalkers.com... Posted Image


Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean your points aren't good.

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#25 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:37 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 09 August 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:

BTW Johnny Z, that's called trolling.

There is a difference between trolling and just being willfully ignorant.

#26 LordNothing

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:40 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 09 August 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:


You must be thinking of that MechSimulator game, that first became popular NEVER.


unfortunately modern gaming is more about artificially boosting ones ego. realism just gets in the way of that.

#27 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:41 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 09 August 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

realism just gets in the way of fun

FTFY.

#28 dervishx5

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:41 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 09 August 2016 - 10:37 AM, said:

There is a difference between trolling and just being willfully ignorant.


Right, just like how having a different opinion isn't trolling. Mr. Z doesn't seem to understand that.

#29 FupDup

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:42 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 09 August 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

unfortunately modern gaming is more about artificially boosting ones ego. realism just gets in the way of that.

What makes you so sure that Ghost Energy is realistic?

#30 dervishx5

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:43 AM

View PostFupDup, on 09 August 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

What makes you so sure that Ghost Energy is realistic?


Because you can detect it on the PKE Meter.

#31 LordNothing

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:45 AM

View PostFupDup, on 09 August 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

What makes you so sure that Ghost Energy is realistic?


its not, did you even read my other post?

#32 kapusta11

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:45 AM

Russ called it weapon load once. no?

#33 CygnusX7

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:46 AM

...off to smurfy to do dual 30 damage builds.

#34 LordNothing

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:47 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 09 August 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

FTFY.


ego++;

i rest my case.

#35 Otto Cannon

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:54 AM

Let's face it, they were never going to be honest and just call it 'Damage Derp'.

#36 Reno Blade

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:55 AM

Just think of the Gyroscope and myomers to require more power from the engine to compensate the recoil of ACs and Missiles and then you can use Energy Draw for all weapons.
Done :)

#37 dervishx5

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:55 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 09 August 2016 - 10:47 AM, said:


ego++;

i rest my case.


A well deserved ego.

#38 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:56 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 09 August 2016 - 10:47 AM, said:


ego++;

i rest my case.

It has nothing to do with ego Posted Image

I don't find realistic gameplay in a PvP game all that entertaining. Games don't have to be realistic to be fun, and often those two are at odds with each other. Unless we are talking about survival games, but I prefer those to be single player.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 09 August 2016 - 10:56 AM.


#39 Brain Cancer

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 10:56 AM

I just call it more of the same, which is what it is.

It's a arbitrary value applied to generate extra heat rather than "X number of weapons = Y amount of heat + Z amount of ghost heat'.

It doesn't actually make heat penalties happen, nor does it actually do much to increase TTK because it's a matter of all damage going precisely to a pixel from every gun regardless of where it is on your giant robot, with this simply shuffling things around yet again to the new most efficient method.

#40 Revis Volek

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 11:00 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 09 August 2016 - 10:56 AM, said:

It has nothing to do with ego Posted Image

I don't find realistic gameplay in a PvP game all that entertaining. Games don't have to be realistic to be fun, and often those two are at odds with each other. Unless we are talking about survival games, but I prefer those to be single player.



If i wanted REAL i would go outside and try to build my own battlemech...

Real and FUN are often not the same thing you are correct. Which IMO is why we turn away from the REAL WORLD to find adventure in another WORLD in our video games.





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