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#1 Dread Render

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:05 AM

I think the game rates me higher than it should... yes I am a humble dude and I admit I'm not a great player.

So... Perhaps there should be an Option to Play Up or Down One Tier.
Since I am over rated by the Game I would Pic Down One.
If you are Better than your current Rating you could Pic Up One Tier.

Once in a while I am in the zone and play well, but most of the time I just want to have fun in a close game so I would like the MM to consider me a T4 instead of T3.

What do you think?

------------ edit \/ -------
Okay, I don't care about the 3/3/3/3 mech thing anymore.
I want Even matches.
MM by Skill and Weight. I don't care if I end up in matches with 11 Mediums and 1 Assault on each Team.
I just want Even Matches.

Edited by Dread Render, 11 August 2016 - 11:21 AM.


#2 Kirkland Langue

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:06 AM

no, since the MM already matches people from any tier.

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:07 AM

I think MM/Tier system is too broken for that to make much of a difference.

#4 Kirkland Langue

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:11 AM

The only thing that could make a difference (besides getting new players, which PGI isn't interested in) - would be to completely get rid of LMHA consideration for MM, create games purely to match players based upon skill - and then divide the teams to best balance the mechs.

#5 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:15 AM

View PostKirkland Langue, on 11 August 2016 - 09:11 AM, said:

The only thing that could make a difference (besides getting new players, which PGI isn't interested in) - would be to completely get rid of LMHA consideration for MM, create games purely to match players based upon skill - and then divide the teams to best balance the mechs.

Are you trying to sabotage PGI's servers? :)

#6 Kirkland Langue

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:17 AM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 11 August 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

Are you trying to sabotage PGI's servers? Posted Image


The servers which disconnect a player almost every match?

#7 Davers

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:21 AM

There is 5 tiers, but only 2 buckets.

#8 Dread Render

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:25 AM

View PostKirkland Langue, on 11 August 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

no, since the MM already matches people from any tier.


Are you being sarcastic? Tell me this is not so.
also
What does Lorain Metropolitan Housing Authority (LMHA) have to do with anything please?

#9 Pilotasso

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:26 AM

MM cant be broken, its been producing so many consecutive stomps for so long it can only be like this by design. Working as intended.

Edited by Pilotasso, 11 August 2016 - 09:26 AM.


#10 Dread Render

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:28 AM

Okay... I have a solution but I don't know if people will like it... and it is not my Idea, I have heard it before.
Just build the teams on skill rating alone... then just do the best job you can at making the overall team weight even.
So this means forget the 3/3/3/3 thing and MM by skill and weight alone.

That would actually work if people are willing to just forget the damn 3/3/3/3 crap!!!!

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:33 AM

View PostDread Render, on 11 August 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:

Okay... I have a solution but I don't know if people will like it... and it is not my Idea, I have heard it before.
Just build the teams on skill rating alone... then just do the best job you can at making the overall team weight even.
So this means forget the 3/3/3/3 thing and MM by skill and weight alone.

That would actually work if people are willing to just forget the damn 3/3/3/3 crap!!!!


I think I've heard that idea somewhere before.

#12 Pilotasso

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:34 AM

I have a better idea. Ditch the MM altogether and adopt a lobby system: it has been producing fun matches in simulations for over 20 years for me.

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:37 AM

View PostDread Render, on 11 August 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:


Are you being sarcastic? Tell me this is not so.
also
What does Lorain Metropolitan Housing Authority (LMHA) have to do with anything please?


I basically played no games from the time they implemented the tiers until about a month ago.
When I installed the game this latest time, I was Tier 4. I was being paired against known Tier 1 players.
That's the only evidence I have to support my position.

As for the Housing Authority of the Lorain Metropolitan - I bet they can design MatchMaking (don't want to get off topic) better than PGI.

Edited by Kirkland Langue, 11 August 2016 - 09:38 AM.


#14 Antares102

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:37 AM

View PostDread Render, on 11 August 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

Are you being sarcastic? Tell me this is not so.


It is like that... ask all players what tier they are in your next 10 matches.
You will get many Tier1 with Tier5 mixes.
Some might lie about their Tier but on average you will see what the result will be.
Did the same in several matches and got Tier1 with Tier5 mixes.

PGI probably did this as a stealth change of the MM to decrease search time for high Tier players and/or all players.

This also confirms the observations I made:
  • LRM boats fireing happily into the wall in front of them for 3 minutes without moving.
  • Guys constantly fireing their med lasers at targets 1000m away.
  • People getting "stuck" at a wall and have serious trouble turning their mech.

Edited by Antares102, 11 August 2016 - 09:39 AM.


#15 Stone Wall

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:49 AM

View PostPilotasso, on 11 August 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

I have a better idea. Ditch the MM altogether and adopt a lobby system: it has been producing fun matches in simulations for over 20 years for me.


It worked for MW3 and MW4.

#16 Davers

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:15 AM

View PostDread Render, on 11 August 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:

Okay... I have a solution but I don't know if people will like it... and it is not my Idea, I have heard it before.
Just build the teams on skill rating alone... then just do the best job you can at making the overall team weight even.
So this means forget the 3/3/3/3 thing and MM by skill and weight alone.

That would actually work if people are willing to just forget the damn 3/3/3/3 crap!!!!


Having 11 assaults and one medium per side may be matched in tonnage, but not really fair for the mediums.

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:18 AM

View PostAntares102, on 11 August 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:


It is like that... ask all players what tier they are in your next 10 matches.
You will get many Tier1 with Tier5 mixes.
Some might lie about their Tier but on average you will see what the result will be.
Did the same in several matches and got Tier1 with Tier5 mixes.

PGI probably did this as a stealth change of the MM to decrease search time for high Tier players and/or all players.


If this is true people we need to Rage Against PGI about this. It is 100% unacceptable!!
I would rather play against an even team by Skill and Weight and F#$% the 3/3/3/3 crap than have this Continue!!!
Lets get Mad people!!!
We can have a better game and it seems like something they can do in a short time.

View PostDavers, on 11 August 2016 - 10:15 AM, said:

Having 11 assaults and one medium per side may be matched in tonnage, but not really fair for the mediums.


Why do you say that... Please explain. If there is one Medium on each team, how is that not even?

#18 Antares102

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:22 AM

View PostDread Render, on 11 August 2016 - 10:18 AM, said:

If this is true people we need to Rage Against PGI about this. It is 100% unacceptable!!


Get your packet of salt ready... nothing will change this, because PGI knows best whats good for the game and the whales that give them money.

Edited by Antares102, 11 August 2016 - 10:30 AM.


#19 Johnny Z

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:35 AM

View PostDavers, on 11 August 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

There is 5 tiers, but only 2 buckets.


This.

There is also 4 Ac's on my King Crab.

Edited by Johnny Z, 11 August 2016 - 10:36 AM.


#20 Monkey Lover

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:42 AM

Tier 5 seal clubbing time here I come !! Hehe





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