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#1 WarPickle

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 05:32 AM

So I bought 2 of the 6.95 mc.. I got my 8 free keys and caches.... opened them... I just gotta say FU PGI... never again...

out of the 8 caches I got these crates...

2x crates of:

10x Advanced UAV
360 Target Retention
3 Supply Cache Keys
Gas Mask
PPC
5000 GXP
Plush Monkey
LPL

Which I won 2 LPL's

2x crates of:

1 Day Premium Time
3 Supply Cache Keys
Seismic Sensor
100.000 C-Bills
10x Advanced UAV
Dog Tag
Clan AC/2
Lucky Cat

Which I won 2x 100,000 cbills


2x crates of:

250.000 C-Bills
Mech Bay
10x Cool Shot 18
XL270
Clan Narc
4x SRM6
Clan ERPPC
SDR-5D + Mechbay

Which I won 1x clan narc and 1x clan erppc


2x crates of:

250.000 C-Bills
50 MC
Clan Gauss Rifle
10x Advanced UAV
3 Supply Cache Keys
Dog Tag
ERPPC
KFX-S + Mechbay

Which I won 2x 250,000 cbills

Out of 8 supply caches it alternated these four.. so much for randomness and out of the 8.. 6 of them dished out the same rewards as their counterparts

I know it's a money grab and all but jesus h... at least let it alternate between cheap crap that I can get playing one damn match..
at least try to make it look like it isn't rigged :P

sigh.. not complaining too much about the "rewards" I got.. but I gotta admit the 100,000 cbill felt like a friggin slap to the face.. I can get that just by showing up to a match :)

Also I plug my results into this site.. it will help you see your odds of getting your worthless junk

http://mwo.machtprobe.de/

Props to the creator!

#2 Yosharian

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 05:40 AM

So essentially you're expressing surprise that gambling doesn't allow you to win easily?

Edited by Yosharian, 12 August 2016 - 05:40 AM.


#3 Piney II

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 05:43 AM

I've unlocked a few for grins and giggles, but I usually just sell mine.

#4 GRiPSViGiL

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 05:43 AM

Your first problem was giving PGI money.

Your second was not understanding how gambling works.

#5 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 05:45 AM

If you hadn't read the complaints about the cache...

It's a trap!

:P

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:14 AM

View PostYosharian, on 12 August 2016 - 05:40 AM, said:

So essentially you're expressing surprise that gambling doesn't allow you to win easily?

im a little skeptical that they arent rigging it. I dont mind if everything as its fair share of being chosen

#7 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:30 AM

It's a matter of trust. Both casinos and lottery's have commissions to guarantee odds and payouts. PGI has neither.

So the question is after all we have seen over the past few years... Do you trust them?

#8 El Bandito

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:33 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 12 August 2016 - 06:30 AM, said:

It's a matter of trust. Both casinos and lottery's have commissions to guarantee odds and payouts. PGI has neither.

So the question is after all we have seen over the past few years... Do you trust them?



I have seen quite a few people posting their mechs won through the crates, so PGI is not doing a complete fraud.

#9 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:36 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 12 August 2016 - 06:33 AM, said:



I have seen quite a few people posting their mechs won through the crates, so PGI is not doing a complete fraud.



White knighting like a boss.

Yeah seen your posting history so don't bother responding.

#10 El Bandito

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:42 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 12 August 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:

White knighting like a boss.

Yeah seen your posting history so don't bother responding.


It seems that to a disgruntled bitter vet who doesn't even play the game anymore, even I can appear as a white knight. Such laugh.

If you actually seen enough of my posts, you would know that I am anything but a white knight, as I hold very PGI in very little regard. But I think the giant **** of bitterness in your eyes prevent you from seeing that reality. Posted Image

You and GRiPSViGiL should be banned from the forums for spewing nothing useful, but hate.

Edited by El Bandito, 12 August 2016 - 06:46 AM.


#11 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:46 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 12 August 2016 - 06:42 AM, said:


It seems that to a disgruntled bitter vet who doesn't even play the game anymore, even I can appear as a white knight. Such laugh.

If you actually seen enough of my posts, you would know that I am anything but a white knight, as I hold very PGI in very little regards. But I think the giant **** of bitterness in your eyes prevent you from seeing that reality. Posted Image


You and GRiPSViGiL should be banned from the forums for spewing nothing useful, but hate.


You last line says it all. Opinions not of yours should be banned.

Nuff said.

#12 Lily from animove

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:54 AM

View PostYosharian, on 12 August 2016 - 05:40 AM, said:

So essentially you're expressing surprise that gambling doesn't allow you to win easily?


and that it is exactly like in all the other 100 games having gambling boxes or wheels?

Edited by Lily from animove, 12 August 2016 - 06:54 AM.


#13 Alistair Winter

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:55 AM

Well... the whole point of a lottery is that the house wins on average. In other words, you've got a small chance of earning some valuable stuff and a higher chance of not winning the valuable stuff. In the long run, the whole idea is that you lose. But you gamble to see if you can beat the odds.

The supply cache actually comes down to an alternative of Premium time as you exchange MC for C-bills, except you have a small chance of getting random MC items that you may or may not want.

I don't blame PGI for trying, I honestly don't care. What strikes me as really funny is when white knights present the supply cache as a feature that the players should be thankful for, or as proof that MWO is getting more and more content. That's funny.

#14 A Shoddy Rental Mech

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:02 AM

The lottery takes a certain percentage off the top and returns the rest to the players.

In casinos, the odds are always stacked in the house favor with the exception of blackjack. Of course if you play blackjack too well, you might be asked to leave the property.

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:03 AM

DON'T OPEN ANY UNTIL AFTER THIS MONTH'S PATCH!!!

Too late for OP, but anyone who might read this before opening any. Yes, the crappiest items are more heavily weighted to win. Something that SHOULD HAVE been explained properly in the beginning. They have already stated that we are going to get a better idea of the rarity of the item in the cache with this patch. What exactly that means, we will see. But, I'm not opening any until after the patch. Even with the free keys.


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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:04 AM

It's well known loot crates are crap with a very high percentage to get the most worthless item out of them. Now that we have such an awesome and rewarding thing in the game pgi doesn't have to give the far better things like colors,camo unlock,mc,mech bays, a mech,fraction colors or modules for event rewards ever again. Thus some one like me doesn't bother to do any events and spend my time playing other games and spending my money elsewhere.

#17 Felbombling

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:09 AM

If you need C-Bills they are a fantastic investment... if you don't need C-Bills... not so much.

#18 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:11 AM

View PostKodiakGW, on 12 August 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:

Yes, the crappiest items are more heavily weighted to win. Something that SHOULD HAVE been explained properly in the beginning.


I don't really get this... It should be pretty much always assumed that this is the case. Why did they have to clarify that glass is transparent?

If you're falling backwards at the blasphemy .... then some advise: Don't play Diablo 3. Some of the best items are the rarest, and take a lot of grinding to get, lest you complain 3 months later about how you weren't handed the best items as easily as the white or blue ones.

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:18 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 12 August 2016 - 06:55 AM, said:

I don't blame PGI for trying, I honestly don't care. What strikes me as really funny is when white knights present the supply cache as a feature that the players should be thankful for, or as proof that MWO is getting more and more content. That's funny.


QFT

#20 Lily from animove

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:26 AM

View PostThe Nerf Bat, on 12 August 2016 - 07:02 AM, said:

The lottery takes a certain percentage off the top and returns the rest to the players.

In casinos, the odds are always stacked in the house favor with the exception of blackjack. Of course if you play blackjack too well, you might be asked to leave the property.


or change the tables more frequently to not get realsied as the guy grabbign too much money.





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