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[MovinTarget]

I know guys that are *NOT* cheating. I can't say no one does, but I don't think as many do as people insinuate...

The fact is between pings and networks and graphics renderings and any number of other factors, there are weird delays in what we see and get hit by all the time...

I remember one time getting hit from the front at range and the damage registered before the PPC graphic ever left the barrel of the enemy.

I really feel like many of the issues are just quirks of the game.

Edited by MovinTarget, 30 August 2016 - 01:49 AM.

[POWR]

All this whining about free stuff.

[Spartan 04]

As a Leaderboard Event Quest Mob, I know I have helped at least 20 players get their chesspieces. Which is cool, focus-fire notwithstanding, and led to some good team-spirited chat with the opfor. I also appreciate the events in general, great way to encourage moar playtime and get a few more Cbills for stuff.

If possible though it would be nice if, in future events where there's a prize for killing X target 'Mech chassis, the pilots of that 'Mech chassis could also get something for number of kills on lights/meds/heavies, Altases (Atlaii?), etc. Only because being the target of everyone's desperate attempt to win something is fun, for a time, but it'd be nice to be rewarded a bit for being singled out as a quest reward mob.

And I know the leaderboard rewards are a thing, but there is no way in this hell or any parallel demonic dimension that a casual player like myself would ever make it to the top 1000, let alone 75/50/25, etc. All I'd ask for is a mirror category for the KMDD on Cyclops (or the next event equivalent.)

... and as a ballistic-enthusiast, the Cyclop's are very fun to play, thanks for the release!

[Dee Eight]

I don't think that's necessary at all given that regardless of an event running, any mech is going to be an enemy's target at some stage of a game.

[mikerso]

Dee Eight, on 30 August 2016 - 06:29 AM, said:

I don't think that's necessary at all given that regardless of an event running, any mech is going to be an enemy's target at some stage of a game.

As much as I loved getting something for hunting the cyclops, got to go with dee eight. As a new mech owner you will be hunted. Everyone wants to test out what can beat the new mech. You should know this when you get a new mech.

I love hunting new mechs in my BH2.

The same goes for any form of a premium mech. Know that you will be hunted. Adapt your game to manage this and use it to your advantage. See those hunting you as lemmings coming to their doom, then kill them.

Edited by mikerso, 30 August 2016 - 08:14 AM.

[Michal R]

OllyPH, on 29 August 2016 - 10:52 PM, said:

I see rakings about 3300 to 4.200 in worth !
And some guys do have this SEVERAL times !!!! Actually i am very upset ! This is not makable without cheating. When i have a very good match i have a matchscore about 470-500 ! What matchscore is needed for 3.300 up to 4.200 ?

And how could this be that one Player is ALLWAYS in Ranks 1-5 ???? In my eyes this is cheating! Some guys seem to be immortal and allways hitting, never gone to overheat,....



Forget all those quirks and events and other earnings !!!!!

Do something against cheating !!!!! Even in your own family !!!!!

These are surely not only my words, but i speak it loud ! MOST times (not everyone) Cheaters lead the events !

Learn to play and do this... have 1400 dmg in SRMs, do 1314, this is called accuracy... nothing special....

http://imgur.com/a/ox9JR

[MovinTarget]

Look, I'm not even *great* with these things and I have 2 top 75... I'm not worried about winning the big swag, if I get 6 keys, I'm happy.

If there is cheating, I do not think it is so widespread as some people think.

If you are not ranking, don't point at everybody on the leaderboard and accuse them of cheating. I've done nothing but solo drops and just basically tried to level these mechs as fast as possible...

[metallio]

Ok, can we stop with the L2Play! crap too? I think it's well established that "some" people cheat. Whether aimbots, grouping to fail, stressing the graphics until they can see through walls, or w/e SOME people do it. I've won and failed often enough to not be sure how many people at the top are playing with a "little assistance" and to not much care but it doesn't mean you have to be an @sshole to people who are frustrated and don't believe the hype.

...and posting a screencap of you doing high dmg doesn't exactly do squat to convince someone that you GOT THOSE POINTS LEGALLY. If you're going to L2Play someone, L2Play nice yourself and L2argue while you're at it. You aren't cheating? Congratu-frackin-lations! You're not the one being complained about. Want to convince people that their math isn't as accurate as they think it is? Post a video that can be picked apart and learned from.

Then again, maybe you just like being Richard Cranium on the web and that's your whole point playing an online game in the first place...being a d!ck. I guess at that point you don't need anything to back up your arguments or actually attempt to make points.

Edited by metallio, 30 August 2016 - 11:58 AM.

[Luscious Dan]

OllyPH, on 29 August 2016 - 10:52 PM, said:

First - i am very,very sorry for my bad english writing.

Second - i have to say, i am very upset with those events, because I never see cheating so clear like in event times.

I tried to have a good rank in only one Mech and to level the other ones. And so i got one ranking for "Cyclops P". And i can tell, it´s a real very hard fight. I can not tell how many drops i have done, but actually i know, i need more than 600 damage and more than 2 kills and 3 killmostdamage to raise my ranking. Those matches are rare, because every one whant´s to kill my Cyclops and i am only saved by my ECM and colour of Mech.

And now i have 2.130 ranking !!!

I see rakings about 3300 to 4.200 in worth !
And some guys do have this SEVERAL times !!!! Actually i am very upset ! This is not makable without cheating. When i have a very good match i have a matchscore about 470-500 ! What matchscore is needed for 3.300 up to 4.200 ?

And how could this be that one Player is ALLWAYS in Ranks 1-5 ???? In my eyes this is cheating! Some guys seem to be immortal and allways hitting, never gone to overheat,....



Forget all those quirks and events and other earnings !!!!!

Do something against cheating !!!!! Even in your own family !!!!!

These are surely not only my words, but i speak it loud ! MOST times (not everyone) Cheaters lead the events !

Some of the best players in the community stream their games regularly, and we can see them doing 1,000 dmg or more without breaking a sweat. They do it regularly. If they regularly get 1,000 dmg and 4-6 KMD/solo kills, and they do, that's how they get to the top of the leaderboards. Proton is likely to end up in the top 5 for all models, and he's simply one of the best at this game. Watch his streams, he misses shots (sometimes), he dies (occasionally), but generally it's just aggressive and expert gameplay. You might learn a thing or two.

[Talos7]

Dee Eight, on 29 August 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

Why make public evidence of cheating for all to see, when they can give you the form letter response when you message them over a suspected cheater...the last thing they need is someone showing 10 games with 5 or 6 solo KMDDs each time, for everyone to question where these morons are that let themselves die to the same player, and why they're never in games with anyone else.

I'm not saying report it to the public. But at least let pilots know how they scored on the matches that count in the scoring on their own tourney page.

[Michal R]

OMG men. You don't understand what i'm writing.
He need to learn to be better. I'm saying that this man must lern. Why? His score, 600 DMG is rare for him. Men i'm very average player and do 600 dmg most the time, That why he need to lern to play this game to be better.

He accuses everyone who has more then 3000 that they cheating, without proof and you attack me?
What a great political correctness. Defend accusing guy.
GG see you in the battlefield.

[X Player]

As far as I am concerned, I haven't witnessed a single cheater in the game ever. Since I have played 5000+ matches in every Tier that speaks for itself, I believe. Cheating to me seems to be one of the least critical problems the game currently has.

~just my 2 cents~

[PFC Carsten]

Luscious Dan, on 29 August 2016 - 07:11 AM, said:

I've said it before, but if you're going to farm all 6 leaderboards for a new mech, that's $60 spent on new mechs to earn up to 6,000MC, 30M C-bills and some other junk. Unless you're prtn, you're likely not getting anywhere near that much. Running an alt account just for the leaderboard farming doesn't make sense if you can't transfer the rewards to your main. And if you're that good, your alt account won't stay at low tiers without you wasting a lot of time throwing matches.

This event, yep. But the leaderboard events before that? You remember, those where the only requirement was „any (light|medium|heavy|assault)“? No need to invest real money there, only level up your training shills, equip them with some serious in-game value (aka MC) and off you go to the favourite sales plattform of your choice.

Transparency as a first step would be easy for PGI to implement. Everyone who wins additional stuff apart from the personal challenge (i.e. is in one the top 75) gets his or her match record for the tournament set to public scrutinization. Including of course the relevant data for the event scoring, as has been demanded by others. Heck I bet people would even go so far, taking over the job of sorting the suspicious accounts and report them to PGI.

Second step of course would be to not disallow rigged matches (apparently much more easy to achieve in group queue, if you got the numbers), but also to enforce that rule. One easy step would be to only allow PUG matches for leaderboards. Because, when you drop with 11 of your minions, you won't even need the opposing 12 to willingly participate in the farming. Just have your teammates shield you nicely, while they leg the opponents. The rest: Easy prey for you 9 out of 10 times.

[Dee Eight]

During the weight of the world event, mining colony, our team had basically sacked the enemy, they had ONE left, there were eight of us. While trying to find the last of them, which turned out to be an afk, someone over voip actively and repeatedly called for the target not to be outright destroyed, so that everyone could get a shot at it and thus get a 10 pt kill assist for leaderboard scoring.

[MovinTarget]

I've been dropping all morning with this mech, why are my scores not counting?

*clearly* it is a cyclops!

[Bishop Six]

MovinTarget, on 31 August 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

I've been dropping all morning with this mech, why are my scores not counting?

*clearly* it is a cyclops!

Shall we gather money here that you can buy a new PC?

That textures o.O

[MovinTarget]

Besmirch not my Lappy! For it is a good Lappy!











































....But if ya really wann give me monez...

Edited by MovinTarget, 31 August 2016 - 08:58 AM.

[Luscious Dan]

Hey when did MWO get ported to N64?

[MovinTarget]

Luscious Dan, on 01 September 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

Hey when did MWO get ported to N64?

waaaaaaaaaaaaatch it!

[MovinTarget]

PGI, Please put a countdown timer on the event page for when the event is over like you used to do with the Profile->stats->challenges page...

It just helps us braindead folk that don't live in PST or UTC to be able to figure out how much time is left...

tnx