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[Major Tomm]

Arctic Cheetah, Locust, nothing will be much better. Bushwacker is one of those famous lore mechs, but then I think of the Summoner.

[Otto Cannon]

Bushwacker will always be my first choice for shooting at seagulls on the beach, but not so much for MWO.

[Wecx]

Fix domination and ill buy a mech pack.

[dervishx5]

Otto Cannon, on 06 September 2016 - 01:39 PM, said:

Bushwacker will always be my first choice for shooting at seagulls on the beach, but not so much for MWO.

Would be my first choice to paint tiger teeth on it.

[jss78]

Not really excited.

Here's a scientific representation of what the current problem is. I'll buy anything that addresses this (or is a Crusader).

Edit: I'd understand this if there were no options, but the 20+40 ton weight brackets are flooded with iconic 'mechs.

Edited by jss78, 06 September 2016 - 02:05 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

FupDup, on 06 September 2016 - 12:15 PM, said:

Um...uh...mmmm...
If the side torso MGs are mounted decently high, I guess you could make a 2 UAC/5 ridge poker with 2 ML for backup. Don't say Shadow Hawk, because the Shad has to use a STD engine for that (which isn't that great for a medium mech due to limited tonnage). The Shad is also cursed to never have good quirks because it used to be sorta-meta a few years ago.
That's really about it.

I don't know. With its shape, it feels like it's never going to be a good brawler. 2UAC5 doesn't seem like it's going to be powerful enough to be a great ridge poker, and it won't have any good quirks, because none of the new mechs do.

Maybe it can do gauss + ERPPC reasonably well? I don't know.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Alistair Winter, on 06 September 2016 - 02:10 PM, said:

Maybe it can do gauss + ERPPC reasonably well? I don't know.

IIRC, lasers are CT which means no PPCs. Actually, I don't remember exactly where everything is located on the Bushi...

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 06 September 2016 - 02:16 PM.

[RestosIII]

Alistair Winter, on 06 September 2016 - 02:10 PM, said:

I don't know. With its shape, it feels like it's never going to be a good brawler. 2UAC5 doesn't seem like it's going to be powerful enough to be a great ridge poker, and it won't have any good quirks, because none of the new mechs do.

Maybe it can do gauss + ERPPC reasonably well? I don't know.

Pffft. All this talk about "optimal" builds. Where's your sense of adventure, man? Run stock builds!

[Navid A1]

Shadowomega1, on 06 September 2016 - 12:26 PM, said:

Called it, again

oh yeah?

Spoiler

[FupDup]

Major Tomm, on 06 September 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

Arctic Cheetah, Locust, nothing will be much better. Bushwacker is one of those famous lore mechs, but then I think of the Summoner.

Locust IIC and maybe the Fire Falcon would be "good" as far as lights go (but still obsolete to heavier gundams like all lights).

[Navid A1]

FupDup, on 06 September 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

Because, contrary to what some people insist, light gundams don't sell very well. I wonder why...

I want my Fire moth goddamnit

[FupDup]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 06 September 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

IIRC, lasers are CT which means no PPCs. Actually, I don't remember exactly where everything is located on the Bushi...

X1 Variant
RA: AC/10
RT: MG
CT: ERLL
LT: MG, LRM5
LA: LRM5

X2 Variant
RA: AC/10
RT: MG
CT: 2 MPL
LT: MG, 2 LRM5
LA: LRM5

Those are the two variants with MWO's current tech.

[Alistair Winter]

RestosIII, on 06 September 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Pffft. All this talk about "optimal" builds. Where's your sense of adventure, man? Run stock builds!

My sense of adventure was crushed by the Phoenix Hawk.

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

... Why... Why is this... Uhg... Words cannot express the disappointment I have right now...

I hope the bushwacker being release is some form of april fools joke... Or uh, I mean... Septembers fools joke

[Quicksilver Aberration]

FupDup, on 06 September 2016 - 02:20 PM, said:

X1 Variant
RA: AC/10
RT: MG
CT: ERLL
LT: MG, LRM5
LA: LRM5

X2 Variant
RA: AC/10
RT: MG
CT: 2 MPL
LT: MG, 2 LRM5
LA: LRM5

Those are the two variants with MWO's current tech.

Alright, so I was right, only CT energy.

Too bad it isn't 60 tons or so, could make for an interesting 3 AC5 build, but at 55 tons, it just doesn't have enough tonnage (3 AC5, 255 XL, only 5 tons of ammo). Could potentially be on par with the CN9-AH in the brawling department, but doubtful it will be much more there. Could be the lightest dual AC10 mech though and one of the more viable builds on it.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 06 September 2016 - 02:25 PM.

[FLG 01]

FupDup, on 06 September 2016 - 02:20 PM, said:

X1 Variant
RA: AC/10
RT: MG
CT: ERLL
LT: MG, LRM5
LA: LRM5

X2 Variant
RA: AC/10
RT: MG
CT: 2 MPL
LT: MG, 2 LRM5
LA: LRM5

Those are the two variants with MWO's current tech.

You are perhaps forgetting the BSW-S2:





That makes three full canon variants possible with MWO-level tech.
... but PGI will for sure add a non-canon hero and a non-canon reinforcement pack.

Edit: meant the -S2, not the L1...

Edited by FLG 01, 06 September 2016 - 02:35 PM.

[FupDup]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 06 September 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

Alright, so I was right, only CT energy.

Too bad it isn't 60 tons or so, could make for an interesting 3 AC5 build, but at 55 tons, it just doesn't have enough tonnage (3 AC5, 255 XL, only 5 tons of ammo). Could potentially be on par with the CN9-AH in the brawling department, but doubtful it will be much more there. Could be the lightest dual AC10 mech though and one of the more viable builds on it.

If only there were alternate versions of some Autocannons that were lighter in weight than the 3025 versions. If only...

FLG 01, on 06 September 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

You are perhaps forgetting the BSW-L1:
RA: LB-10X
CT: ERLL
LT: SRM4, AMS
LA: SRM4

That makes three full canon variants possible with MWO-level tech.
... but PGI will for sure add a non-canon hero and a non-canon reinforcement pack.

Light Fusion Engine invalidates that variant.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

FupDup, on 06 September 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

If only there were alternate versions of some Autocannons that were lighter in weight than the 3025 versions. If only...

Light AC5s kinda invalidate the AC10 though.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 06 September 2016 - 02:31 PM.

[FLG 01]

FupDup, on 06 September 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

Light Fusion Engine invalidates that variant.

Already corrected it, meant the S2. Possible in MWO.

Edited by FLG 01, 06 September 2016 - 02:32 PM.

[GreenHell]

I'd have more hope for MWO if they actually released NEW GUNS or NEW EQUIPMENT on the Bushwacker...

But I know PGI won't do that because they're lazy.