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[Navid A1]

here is the link:
http://mwomercs.com/...sep2016-3pm-pdt

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• Long Tom Artillery: Maximum Amount of Damage per Component exposed to the blast has been reduced to 30 (from 120). Firing delay has been increased to 8 seconds (from 7 seconds). It is important to note that the changes to damage falloff from the May 17th patch are still in place.

So, that reduced damage only applies to internals or is it global?

So, the damage will not insta-kill.. .thats something... but, its still along the lines of showing us who's boss! (they will not get rid of it)

Edited by Navid A1, 06 September 2016 - 08:37 PM.

[RestosIII]

So it still headshots people for insta-kills? Good to know.

[Navid A1]

RestosIII, on 06 September 2016 - 05:55 PM, said:

So it still headshots people for insta-kills? Good to know.

I thought headshots were removed from LTs some patches ago

[Intrepid]

RestosIII, on 06 September 2016 - 05:55 PM, said:

So it still headshots people for insta-kills? Good to know.

Takes more than 30 points to Headshot a fully armoured head

[N0ni]

Maybe only internals? Why are things never specific?

Instructions unclear...

...will eat cookies while thinking this over.

[RestosIII]

Intrepid, on 06 September 2016 - 06:00 PM, said:

Takes more than 30 points to Headshot a fully armoured head

"Fully armored head." What sort of builds you runnin', boy?

[Mcgral18]

RestosIII, on 06 September 2016 - 06:02 PM, said:

"Fully armored head." What sort of builds you runnin', boy?

After doing the math:

Nearly all of them



They can't Crit either, no Long Tom will no longer instagib faces (if there wasn't already protection).




Now, this may be too much of a nerf, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative.
I'd prefer multiple smaller shells, personally.

[El Bandito]

So PGI didn't remove it, against all complaints? Their loss. And pugs'.

[N0ni]

El Bandito, on 06 September 2016 - 06:12 PM, said:

So PGI didn't remove it, against all complaints? Their loss. And pugs'.

Didn't you know? Russ is in love with the Long Tom and will never give up on it or anything he thinks is a good idea or a good path for MWO to go on despite what the community says.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was fan fiction shipping going on at this point.

[Vincent Quatermain]

N0ni, on 06 September 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

Didn't you know? Russ is in love with the Long Tom and will never give up on it or anything he thinks is a good idea or a good path for MWO to go on despite what the community says.

Yeah, there are basically two states that Long Tom can be in:

1) "OMG, cheap! Why bother invasion dropping on this planet now?"
2) "OMG, pointless! Why bother scout dropping to maximum on any planet?"

Scenario 2) is preferable to 1) at least, and it looks like this hotfix might get us there.

A better idea would be some sort of spotter drone that moves and has a few more hit points than a UAV.

[BearFlag]

(Redacted). Long Tom is eventually gone per the podcast.

One point of random damage from the Sky God is one point too many. The end game to Intel should be Intel, not RNG damage. Numerous viable, better, Intel options were presented which would have had significant in game affects without the Sky Hammer. Ignored. The Invasion mode is miserable enough to 90% of players without Long Tom.

Thirty points of damage per exposed component is not going to be happily received by players any more than 160 or 120. It may not always insta-kill as before, but as you're running away from it with weak armor exposed, it will still cut through the armor of mediums and do internal damage.

EDIT:
As for the argument that Scouting has be to massively "worth it", you're wrong, IMO. Those of us doing a lot of Scout do it because we LIKE the mode. I'd Scout if there was no end-game to it. Certainly prefer it over the choke-point, single mode, respawning carnage mode.

Edited by BearFlag, 07 September 2016 - 08:28 PM.

[Alex Morgaine]

So is it 30 per part (x7 parts for 210 damage total) or just 30 damage spread in 5 pt bundles like it should have been? Cause 30 at a time tip everything is still over kill, specially if rear is targeted separately from front...

[Intrepid]

RestosIII, on 06 September 2016 - 06:02 PM, said:

"Fully armored head." What sort of builds you runnin', boy?

Ones not whining about getting Long Tommed & Headshotted

[RestosIII]

Intrepid, on 06 September 2016 - 08:04 PM, said:

Ones not whining about getting Long Tommed & Headshotted

'notices you liked your own post'

[Intrepid]

RestosIII, on 06 September 2016 - 08:10 PM, said:

'notices you liked your own post'

Of course - noticed you are also not wise enough to like yours.

[RestosIII]

Intrepid, on 06 September 2016 - 08:23 PM, said:

Of course - noticed you are also not wise enough to like yours.

[CycKath]

Oh Long Tom, was confused at why they were reducing Left Torso damage. Dang non-quick play terms!

[Mcgral18]

Alex Morgaine, on 06 September 2016 - 07:42 PM, said:

So is it 30 per part (x7 parts for 210 damage total) or just 30 damage spread in 5 pt bundles like it should have been? Cause 30 at a time tip everything is still over kill, specially if rear is targeted separately from front...

30 per part

[El Bandito]

BearFlag, on 06 September 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

As for the argument that Scouting has be to massively "worth it", you're wrong, IMO. Those of us doing a lot of Scout do it because we LIKE the mode. I'd Scout if there was no end-game to it. Certainly prefer it over the choke-point, single mode, respawning carnage mode.

Yep. I always preferred Scouting over Invasion. 4v4 is such a fun experience.

[MechaBattler]

It's okay. I wasn't playing FW anyways.