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[JediPanther]

Since up coming circumstances are going to result in my loss of internet access for the next few months and possibly most of next year I decided to make hard copies of my digital receipts.I won't have a connection or pc capable of running mwo. I still plan to make an occasional topic or post until I can get back to playing the game from the local library.

While going through my data I found all my mwo related ones and decided to make a time line of when I bought mechs excluding the times I did the rare mc purchase.

This is purely for the entertainment of doing it while showing you that not all people with mech package tags are the big spenders some people might think they are. I've bought MC three times all at the lowest amount which is about $10 when I add in transaction fees.

Do you remember when you first got into the game? What got you to play? I never knew about the tt game, read any of the books, or any of the earlier BT games except for the pos sega genesis game. It wasn't until I saw the Founder Catapult Trailer then I got into Mechwarrior Online. I loved the Cat and used it almost exclusively through CB. The C1 remains my top mech and the one I use the most.

6/19/12 First email confirmation of Founder's Legendary.

7/25/12 Confirmed for Closed Beta.

7/25/13 Sarah's Jenner.

9/06/13 Saber Reinforcements (Phoenix Pack Minus Battle Master?)

2/17/14 Timber Wolf Al La Carte

10/22/14 Fire Mech Pack (Panthers Pack I think)

7/31/15 Jenner 2C (Clans Version with clan Oxide)

10/19/15 Gift Code to brother for Wolf Hound (2R?)

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The Cat Trailer for reference:

[Signal27]

JediPanther, on 11 September 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

Since up coming circumstances are going to result in my loss of internet access for the next few months and possibly most of next year

Oh wow, that's tough dude. Especially in this day and age. I don't mean to dig into your business, but I'm curious as to what could put you in those circumstances?

[JediPanther]

Signal27, on 11 September 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

Oh wow, that's tough dude. Especially in this day and age. I don't mean to dig into your business, but I'm curious as to what could put you in those circumstances?

Lack of funds and having to relocate across the country for work. 20 hours a month at min wage pays for nothing.

[Signal27]

JediPanther, on 11 September 2016 - 03:32 PM, said:

Lack of funds and having to relocate across the country for work. 20 hours a month at min wage pays for nothing.

That's tough, dude. You have my sympathies and I hope the new job works out better for you. Hopefully get some better hours so you can return that much sooner.

[Alistair Winter]

JediPanther, on 11 September 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

This is purely for the entertainment of doing it while showing you that not all people with mech package tags are the big spenders some people might think they are. I've bought MC three times all at the lowest amount which is about $10 when I add in transaction fees.

I have actually always been aware of this since I started reading on the forums. That's part of the reason why Founder entitlement has always rubbed me the wrong way. That, and the fact that I am extremely jealous of anyone who owns the Founder Catapult. (Seriously! F***. You. You don't love the CPLT-C1(F) like I do. You don't deserve her.)

But there are plenty of people who have spent twice, thrice, ten times or even more than ten times as much as a lot of the angry Founders who talk about how we wouldn't be here if it weren't for them or how PGI betrayed them and how they wish person X at PGI would die in a tractor accident. Why? Because they plunked down 40 bucks for a Founder package in 2011 and then PGI implemented 3PV. As if that means Russ should be on his hands and knees thanking them and begging their forgiveness forever.

And on top of their blinding rage / haughty demeanour towards PGI, there's also the Founder Snowflakism. "Nobody shall share my Founder mech geometry! You cannot put a price on what I have sacrificed to become a Founder! Never was so much owed by so many to so few!"

Come at me Founder bros.

Spoiler

All the above is tongue-in-cheek. Calm your tïts neckbeard. I mean you no harm. We're all friends here. Except Juodas Varnas.

[Deathlike]

Alistair Winter, on 11 September 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

Spoiler

All the above is tongue-in-cheek. Calm your tïts neckbeard. I mean you no harm. We're all friends here. Except Juodas Varnas.

I assume teh Jarl has provided a furniture offering for sacrifice.

[N0ni]

I'll leave the lights on, for when you get back.

[JediPanther]

Alistair Winter, on 11 September 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

But there are plenty of people who have spent twice, thrice, ten times or even more than ten times as much as a lot of the angry Founders who talk about how we wouldn't be here if it weren't for them or how PGI betrayed them and how they wish person X at PGI would die in a tractor accident. Why? Because they plunked down 40 bucks for a Founder package in 2011 and then PGI implemented 3PV. As if that means Russ should be on his hands and knees thanking them and begging their forgiveness forever.

And on top of their blinding rage / haughty demeanour towards PGI, there's also the Founder Snowflakism. "Nobody shall share my Founder mech geometry! You cannot put a price on what I have sacrificed to become a Founder! Never was so much owed by so many to so few!"

Come at me Founder bros.

i always found such posts to be in bad taste. Since my knowledge of BT lore and games prior to mwo is pretty much nil the few times i can think of where I had such a "founder's rage" was when pgi had the polls to try and resale the phoenix and founder's mechs. From my point of view we were sold on the mechs in a limited time exclusive option. It would be like a car maker building a run of 100 cars with options x,z, and y saying the car and options x,z, and y would be sold as exclusive limited editions never be made again then few years later try and sell another 100 of those cars with option x,z, and y just because people cried about not getting one while they had the chance.

As for special custom geometry pgi could have made that an mc option selling it as cosmetic fluff. As long as it could be easily identified as such and not a copy of founder/phoenix or other special mechs where it was a selling point for those mechs I'd have no problems with that. Same for cockpit items. HBK GI Limited Edition has the custom cheer leader. PGI can make another and sell it just not an exact copy.

[Mystere]

Alistair Winter, on 11 September 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

I have actually always been aware of this since I started reading on the forums. That's part of the reason why Founder entitlement has always rubbed me the wrong way. That, and the fact that I am extremely jealous of anyone who owns the Founder Catapult. (Seriously! F***. You. You don't love the CPLT-C1(F) like I do. You don't deserve her.)

But there are plenty of people who have spent twice, thrice, ten times or even more than ten times as much as a lot of the angry Founders who talk about how we wouldn't be here if it weren't for them or how PGI betrayed them and how they wish person X at PGI would die in a tractor accident. Why? Because they plunked down 40 bucks for a Founder package in 2011 and then PGI implemented 3PV. As if that means Russ should be on his hands and knees thanking them and begging their forgiveness forever.

And on top of their blinding rage / haughty demeanour towards PGI, there's also the Founder Snowflakism. "Nobody shall share my Founder mech geometry! You cannot put a price on what I have sacrificed to become a Founder! Never was so much owed by so many to so few!"

Come at me Founder bros.

Spoiler

All the above is tongue-in-cheek. Calm your tïts neckbeard. I mean you no harm. We're all friends here. Except Juodas Varnas.

Jelly? And the CPLT-C1(F) isn't even in my top 10 of most used rides.

[Stone Wall]

I probably sold any Mechs I received as a Founder, if I even received any. I do have two Loyalty Mechs from the first pass. Coming from a past MW world where all the Mechs were free, oh well.

GL to you Jedi.

Edited by Stone Wall, 11 September 2016 - 05:28 PM.

[El Bandito]

My Timeline.

2012 -- Year of Excitement. Year of getting owned by everyone. 0.25 WLR for months.

2013 -- Year of Suck and Broken Promises. PPFLD poptarts and PGI's lies ruined the whole MWO experience. Year of loving the Streakcat & LRMander, and hating the Raven-3L.

2014 -- Year of not giving a ****. PGI had finally got their **** together post IGP split but I already have very low opinions about this game and the company. Took extended breaks from MWO.

2015 -- Year of Recovery. PGI finally got Clan vs IS balance down to slightly acceptable levels. I started to get into FW, which actually provided better experience than the Solo-Q. For a while, at least.

2016 -- Year of Tryharding. Post PSR, I learned the art of VOIP-warrioring, honed my situational awareness and aiming, learned to embrace the meta and gave my best in every match. My stats shot up through the roof, compared to previous years.

Edited by El Bandito, 11 September 2016 - 09:36 PM.

[DaZur]

El Bandito, on 11 September 2016 - 06:37 PM, said:

2016 -- Year of Tryharding. Post PSR, I learned the art of VOIP-warrioring, honed my situational awareness and aiming, learned to embrace the meta and give my best every match. My stats shot up through the roof, compared to previous years.

Heretic!!! I will never bend to the will of the meta-overlords!

Not that I haven't "looked" at the shiny beasts and thought unclean thoughts...

[El Bandito]

DaZur, on 11 September 2016 - 08:27 PM, said:

Heretic!!! I will never bend to the will of the meta-overlords!

Not that I haven't "looked" at the shiny beasts and thought unclean thoughts...

Fear not. My 5W is still doing its best to promote non-meta warfare.

[Alistair Winter]

Deathlike, on 11 September 2016 - 03:48 PM, said:

I assume teh Jarl has provided a furniture offering for sacrifice.

And a ritual leather jacket.

Mystere, on 11 September 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

Jelly?

What gave you that idea?

[NeoCodex]

The problem with the founders is not about... whatever we're usually complaining about. Look at that trailer and other closed beta footage. They paid for a different game. Then PGI made crap out of it that we have now.

[El Bandito]

Alistair Winter, on 11 September 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

I have actually always been aware of this since I started reading on the forums. That's part of the reason why Founder entitlement has always rubbed me the wrong way. That, and the fact that I am extremely jealous of anyone who owns the Founder Catapult. (Seriously! F***. You. You don't love the CPLT-C1(F) like I do. You don't deserve her.)

But there are plenty of people who have spent twice, thrice, ten times or even more than ten times as much as a lot of the angry Founders who talk about how we wouldn't be here if it weren't for them or how PGI betrayed them and how they wish person X at PGI would die in a tractor accident. Why? Because they plunked down 40 bucks for a Founder package in 2011 and then PGI implemented 3PV. As if that means Russ should be on his hands and knees thanking them and begging their forgiveness forever.

And on top of their blinding rage / haughty demeanour towards PGI, there's also the Founder Snowflakism. "Nobody shall share my Founder mech geometry! You cannot put a price on what I have sacrificed to become a Founder! Never was so much owed by so many to so few!"

Come at me Founder bros.

[627]

Alistair Winter, on 11 September 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

I have actually always been aware of this since I started reading on the forums. That's part of the reason why Founder entitlement has always rubbed me the wrong way. That, and the fact that I am extremely jealous of anyone who owns the Founder Catapult. (Seriously! F***. You. You don't love the CPLT-C1(F) like I do. You don't deserve her.)

But there are plenty of people who have spent twice, thrice, ten times or even more than ten times as much as a lot of the angry Founders who talk about how we wouldn't be here if it weren't for them or how PGI betrayed them and how they wish person X at PGI would die in a tractor accident. Why? Because they plunked down 40 bucks for a Founder package in 2011 and then PGI implemented 3PV. As if that means Russ should be on his hands and knees thanking them and begging their forgiveness forever.

And on top of their blinding rage / haughty demeanour towards PGI, there's also the Founder Snowflakism. "Nobody shall share my Founder mech geometry! You cannot put a price on what I have sacrificed to become a Founder! Never was so much owed by so many to so few!"

Come at me Founder bros.

You can look. No touching.



However, founders who still are disgruntled because they didn't get what was sold to them are idiots beyond rescue. We got all we paid for, and we got more than that. People like to forget that we got nearly a year of free premium time because PGI didn't get that working right or whatever. And everything else was delivered.

Given, it was always the minimum viable thing but in the end we got what we wanted.

Sure you can be upset about all the lies and broken promises but that is nothing unique to founders it was just that at that time it was the majority of active players.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Don't lament losing internet. Might be a good time to look at the world as it is again. I think that's my favorite time to be out at sea and out of touch. Besides no one knows whats going to happen in October when the big switch is flipped from the US to the EU. We might see mass censorship and lots of sites going dark soon after. News isn't news if its all propaganda.

I just hope your going offline isn't a forced choice and may you be well in the future.

[Bud Crue]

627, on 12 September 2016 - 03:14 AM, said:

However, founders who still are disgruntled because they didn't get what was sold to them are idiots beyond rescue. We got all we paid for, and we got more than that. People like to forget that we got nearly a year of free premium time because PGI didn't get that working right or whatever. And everything else was delivered.

Given, it was always the minimum viable thing but in the end we got what we wanted.

Sure you can be upset about all the lies and broken promises but that is nothing unique to founders it was just that at that time it was the majority of active players.

My time line:

I'm no founder, but I have been following the game from the beginning. In some ways I am way more of an idiot than the "disgruntled" founders you mention but in other ways I am a faster learner.

When I heard CW had finally dropped I rushed to the game. Yes, I came solely to the game to play the mode that many founders claim to have been disappointed and cheated by as it was not what they had been sold on. To me however, it was pretty much exactly what I had been waiting for in an Online Mechwarrior experience; such that I gladly dropped absurd amounts of money into the game because I wanted to support it. I loved it. Until late last year, it was all I played.

Then the e-sports push and then phase 3 arrived. At that point I quickly realized that PGI really doesn't care about the things that I think make Mechwarrior Online, well, a Mechwarrior game. Following last weeks podcast, I have officially lost all hope that this game will ever have a CW component that I will care about. To that end I have lost all desire to spend any money ever again on this game given the direction it is taking (up to you PGI).

It apparently took some founders until now to get to that nadir!? What is that 5 years? Ha! A quick study like me managed to reach this level of disgruntled, hopelessness in a mere two years.

[Arctourus]

I just want those lrm swarm animations back......oh yeah