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[Jon Gotham]

badaa, on 28 September 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:

now i know this will never happen, but would u willingly get rid of all things clan if it made the game better?

Refund all my money and OK.

[Lucian Nostra]

Hmm havent really played much mwo this year, lot of money in clan mech purchases.. if pgi removing clan mechs ment I got my money back that would be tempting.. but no

[Mole]

badaa, on 28 September 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:

now i know this will never happen, but would u willingly get rid of all things clan if it made the game better?

I dunno, would you get rid of all things IS if the made the game better? I bet you wouldn't.

[Davers]

So the general consensus seems to be Improving the game is not as important as having Clans.

[Kanil]

Xmith, on 28 September 2016 - 01:28 PM, said:

What happens when you take away the Clans from Mechwarrior? It's no longer Mechwarrior.

The original MechWarrior game was a MechWarrior game, despite not having Clans.

MWO was still a MechWarrior game prior to the inclusion of Clans.

Clans are no more required for a MW game than the Inner Sphere is.

[Lostdragon]

Kanil, on 29 September 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

The original MechWarrior game was a MechWarrior game, despite not having Clans.

MWO was still a MechWarrior game prior to the inclusion of Clans.

Clans are no more required for a MW game than the Inner Sphere is.

Like many people, I got into BT/MW with MW2, which was all about the Clans, so to me Clans are a fundamental part of the MW experience.

[Pariah Devalis]

Davers, on 29 September 2016 - 09:30 AM, said:

So the general consensus seems to be Improving the game is not as important as having Clans.

I think if we got rid of radishes, then bananas will be better in a fruit salad.

[Davers]

Pariah Devalis, on 29 September 2016 - 09:51 AM, said:

I think if we got rid of radishes, then bananas will be better in a fruit salad.

What the hell are radishes doing in a fruit salad to begin with?

[Pariah Devalis]

Davers, on 29 September 2016 - 10:06 AM, said:

What the hell are radishes doing in a fruit salad to begin with?

They aren't. Otherwise it wouldn't be a fruit salad. Your statement that I quoted is equating the clans with all the sins the game design has, and trying to reflect it entirely onto them. It is nonsensical because it does not follow. Taking the Clans away will not eliminate high PPFLD. Taking the Clans away will not suddenly remove instant convergence. Taking the Clans away will not fix the heat system in this game. Taking the Clans away will not add much needed gameplay variety. For that matter, taking the Clans away won't suddenly make the PHX or Vindicator any good, or any of the other terrible IS mechs any good.

Scapegoat, and a poor one at that.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 29 September 2016 - 10:10 AM.

[Davers]

Pariah Devalis, on 29 September 2016 - 10:09 AM, said:

They aren't. Otherwise it wouldn't be a fruit salad. Your statement that I quoted is equating the clans with all the sins the game design has, and trying to reflect it entirely onto them. It is nonsensical because it does not follow. Taking the Clans away will not eliminate high PPFLD. Taking the Clans away will not suddenly remove instant convergence. Taking the Clans away will not fix the heat system in this game. Taking the Clans away will not add much needed gameplay variety. For that matter, taking the Clans away won't suddenly make the PHX or Vindicator any good, or any of the other terrible IS mechs any good.

Scapegoat, and a poor one at that.

Sorry, I was looking at it as a philosophic question, not a "I hate Clans" rant.

Like, what if there was a BT game that started in 3025 that everyone thought was great, but it followed the BT timeline. Adding the level 2 tech would fundamentally change how the game would be played (like heat wouldn't matter nearly as much). Would you advance the timeline knowing that the game everyone liked would never be the same?

Maybe I just approached the OP's question differently.

[C E Dwyer]

badaa, on 28 September 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:

now i know this will never happen, but would u willingly get rid of all things clan if it made the game better?

If the money I spent on clan mechs was placed in my current account, and the game was put back to 3025, I'd love it

However

Koniving, on 28 September 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

Honestly?
Removing the Clan tech wouldn't make MWO better.

Removing the technicians at PGI who were responsible for the following mechanics and removing or restoring as appropriate would do something good for the game:

• Firing rates of 3-19 times tabletop at full damage/heat ratings.
  
• The "Skillz" tree.
  
• "Rising Mech-Heat threshold".... something that has never existed in any Mechwarrior or Battletech game in the nearly 40 year history of the franchise.
  
• Removal of heat-induced crit damage (Jan patch, 2013) in favor of Override system and physical damage. No longer can heatsinks melt, making thermal abuse so much easier to do thanks to PGI removing this key feature which kept so much ******** under check.

Now if the question was if I would be fine with not having Clan tech if MWO was set in the Succession Wars instead, then yes.

Konivig nails it again lol

Edited by Cathy, 29 September 2016 - 02:24 PM.