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[Nemesis Duck]

MrJeffers, on 03 October 2016 - 01:20 PM, said:

I haven't bought anything outside of mech content, so that's your answer. But outside of mech content, there is what, cockpit items, paints, camos, and boosters (PT). None of which I feel inclined to spend real dollars on....

Yes I agree and add that I personally would feel more inclined to spend money on these ancillary items IF the game was entertaining past the first 4 matches but historical inaction hasn't been a confidence builder. Me-not-love-you-long-time attitude towards content expansion has left me with the impression that the company is prepared to close the doors on a whim. Not a good investment!

Another fine post, Bishop!

Edited by Nemesis Duck, 03 October 2016 - 01:50 PM.

[Journeyman]

I, like many who have responded, would like a reboot of Faction Warfare. The idea as provided is uninspiring and stale and needs a total revamp. I really dislike the total disdain the game design has for loyalist players, although I was assured by Russ through approved public channels (ahem...Twitter...) that they had a broad plan for providing identity to both loyalist and merc corp players. I've yet to see that they did anything substantially different, and in ways actually made things worse.

I've been hoping the Bushwacker would see the light of day, but now that it's here, I'm not pre-buying it. The cost of mechs keeps going up, while the rewards keep going down, as does my faith this game will last. I don't want the game to fail...trust me, I've spent a multitude of hours developing and supporting a community hub with this game as the centerpiece. But the lack of care given by the management has me doubting I'll see a good investment on real money spent here on out.

And that scares me...when they do shut the lights out...how long will we have to wait for the next game to rise?

[Felbombling]

I think I've spent my last dime on the game. Not because I am angry or bitter at PGI, but simply because I have everything I need, and the Mech Lab will let me reproduce almost anything. I could, as an example, create a specific Warhammer out of an Archer build .. right down to the same exact hard point locations. I've already got that Archer, so why spend money on a Warhammer if the Mech Lab basically gives me the load out I want without spending any real cash or in game currency? This is a clear case of PGI allowing so much flexibility in the Mech Lab as to make content down the road insignificant.

I have plenty of Premium Time saved up and ready to use. I have a good selection of Mechs, both Clan and Inner Sphere... some of which I have yet to Master or even take to the field in. I have a nice stash of Mech Credits just collecting dust. I'm still waiting for an excuse to spend them. My grand idea for that was the multiple Camouflage post found here http://mwomercs.com/...21#entry5305121

My last bundle to be delivered will be the Huntsman. After that, it is entirely up in the air if anything comes down the pipe that really sparks my interest. I will tell you this, though... the game is in serious danger of becoming stale and to avoid that, PGI needs to...

• Introduce some new weapons. We've had the same weapon table since the Clan introduction in Wave 1.
  
• Design new maps... while waving goodbye to the map voting system. Same maps again and again sucks.
  
• Create a new pilot experience tree... apparently on the way... to be announced at MechCon, I hope.
  
• Perform an update to weapon sounds and the addition of more ambient sounds would help.
  
• Put a little more effort into the Mech Lab interface, creating better ease of use with shortcuts, etc.
  
• Clean up some invisible hit-box geometry on some of the maps.

Love the game, not angry or bitter... just looking forward to brighter days ahead.

Edited by StaggerCheck, 03 October 2016 - 02:02 PM.

[FallingAce]

Last 2 mechs I bought with MC got hit so hard by the Nerf Hammer that my wallet was flattened closed.

I would have said a viable faction warfare, but that dropship has set course in the wrong direction.
Even though phase 4 may be more playable than phase 3, the condensed bucket, winner take all reward system, and no chages to the current contract system will keep the wallet closed.

[Bishop Steiner]

FallingAce, on 03 October 2016 - 02:01 PM, said:

Last 2 mechs I bought with MC got hit so hard by the Nerf Hammer that my wallet was flattened closed.

I would have said a viable faction warfare, but that dropship has set course in the wrong direction.
Even though phase 4 may be more playable than phase 3, the condensed bucket, winner take all reward system, and no chages to the current contract system will keep the wallet closed.

Yeah, you and me both. Love how the chicken littles whined so hard about the KDK3 that every other form of the KDK BUT the 3 got neutered into oblivion. Just like me and 1453r predicted.

Finally had an Assault Mech that was fun, with my KDK4... but nope, nope, nope!!

as for Faction Warfare?

(plus every thread is better with Pink Floyd)

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 October 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

Mech packs of essentially entirely made up content.

I'm not gonna lie, this bothers me as well, especially given their resistance to ever introduce new tech and their insistence on the stupid 3 variant system that almost everyone has hated since the beginning.

[Summon3r]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 October 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

CW phase 3, Russ's reversion to Combative Russ vs the Island, the Archer Debacle, Match quality in QP getting demonstrably and progressively worse... yeah, the shift in Attitude when they returned from Christmas break 2015... they never realyl seemed to have that friendly progressive attitude they at least tried to pretend in the last half of 2015. Thre Stupid *** Tournament. Mech packs of essentially entirely made up content.

I've spent this entire year getting more disillusioned with each month to the point that I'm more so than even 2013 managed...the difference being I had the energy and passion to get fired up about it then, whereas now, I think we can simply label Summer/Fall 2016 "The Great Apathy".

And finally having some form of Battletech/Mechwarrior alternate outlet I think just widened the chasm.

thats about it right there isnt it, with btech on the horizon i could honestly care a less if i ever played MWO again

agreed in 2013/14 i had the energy to get mad and also to hope there was a future here but as it has gone on and on with NOTHING (mech paks dont count as anything) i just stagnated and lost the energy to care and that is a first for any mechwarrior title.

i guess in regards to me personally Russ/PGI have accomplished something, they managed to push me completely out of a mechwarrior title for the first time EVER before the servers were closed down.

PS this is actually an excellent thread that PGI could learn a lot from but i doubt they will even read and if they do they wont go past the 1st page.

Edited by Summon3r, 03 October 2016 - 02:24 PM.

[Foxwalker]

Funny back when the Blackjack came out, I was really hoping for the BJ-2. At the time Clan did not exist and Streak 2s did 2.5 damage. A 4 Streak 2 mech then would have been awesome - then. I would have paid money for it then, but not now.

I am struck by my own weariness with the same deal, over and over again, in every aspect of the game. I am a major fan of Mechwarrior, I would love to see a change that would make my blood pump again.

[Kael Posavatz]

Oh, and...

A community manager who is actively managing the community rather than a tournament for a select few

And LAMs, everything is better with LAMs.

Edited by Kael Posavatz, 03 October 2016 - 02:31 PM.

[FupDup]

Kael Posavatz, on 03 October 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

Oh, and...

A community manager who is actively managing the community rather than a tournament for a select few

And LAMs, everything is better with LAMs.

I hope you mean Laser Anti-Missile System, rather than the other kind of LAMs...

[Bishop Steiner]

Summon3r, on 03 October 2016 - 02:23 PM, said:

thats about it right there isnt it, with btech on the horizon i could honestly care a less if i ever played MWO again

agreed in 2013/14 i had the energy to get mad and also to hope there was a future here but as it has gone on and on with NOTHING (mech paks dont count as anything) i just stagnated and lost the energy to care and that is a first for any mechwarrior title.

i guess in regards to me personally Russ/PGI have accomplished something, they managed to push me completely out of a mechwarrior title for the first time EVER before the servers were closed down.

PS this is actually an excellent thread that PGI could learn a lot from but i doubt they will even read and if they do they wont go past the 1st page.

Well, you know, some folks have an aversion to visiting islands...and everyone knows the inhabitants are a bunch of lay about who really don't have a clue, anyhow.

[GenghisJr]

I have about 130 mechs, i like to spend money on cammo, not new designs, they all get the same Sherman or Woodland design depending which suits.It would be good if cammo was more effective at distance.
I usually fill the cockpit with trinkets to make an observer want the same stuff - some of it is fun. There is no way I would ever pay cash for waffles!
Maybe an upgraded sound pack could be available for cash, the current clan weapon sounds are appalling, the ppc's and srms's all sound like a drum cymbol and the AC's sound wooden, hollow-whatever it sounds bad. An upgrade to the sound effects would be worth it for me and I do look for stuff to spend cash on -(I dont work for free and I dont expect others to).
My most recent purchase was premium time to level up mechs from the resistance ii package that have been idle

[Bud Crue]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 October 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

I think Russ has made it prety apparent they have invested as much effort into the mode formerly known as CW as he is truly willing. If they are not willing to do it right, then I guess I am more desirous of them at least doing a better job with the TDM that is all this game ever has or will ever be.

Just my 2ct. But I do see where you are coming from. That was me, a year ago.

Your comment in re the amount of effort that they are willing to put into CW made me think a bit.

I'll go further than needing CW as promised in order to get me to thrown money at the game...I think I would settle for them just reverting back to phase 2...that's how little effort they would need to put forth. I really can't give them more of an opportunity for my money than that. The more I think about it, the more I am convinced. CW is what got me into the game in the first place, and what inspired me to throw money at the game. Give me back that level of repetitive mediocrity and I think it would be enough.
Think they'll give it a shot?
Neither do I. I think they are determined on the esports route and CW is just baggage in this here arena shooter.

[Drenath]

Premium time buyback or "pause" feature so I don't burn through premium time when I'm not able to be playing.

[Nemesis Duck]

FupDup, on 03 October 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

I hope you mean Laser Anti-Missile System, rather than the other kind of LAMs...

I think he meant sheep, as in good eats, and not as in people still down with it...

[Karl Marlow]

Well I almost bought the Bushwacker over the prospect of Stock matches being a thing. Sadly the stock community has no interest in making it easy on finding stockatches outside of narrow time slots. I'm not interested in random matches. They are removing the point of faction play. Solaris does not interest me.

I'll just stick to World of Warships. All they do is stock mode there.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bud Crue, on 03 October 2016 - 02:45 PM, said:

Neither do I. I think they are determined on the esports route and CW is just baggage in this here arena shooter.

To be fair, both can live. Planetary leagues are not something new to MWO (MW4 had NBT and maybe a couple others), it just happens to be the first to be company run rather than player run, which means at best it will share the exact same problems as Mekwars (people want to be in sole control of their factions fate, not hamstrung by a bunch of loyalist units that have a habit of bringing factions down). To me CW would always fall short of what people wanted, what we always needed was better private lobbies and a lot better 3rd party league visibility.

[Ace Selin]

Bud Crue, on 03 October 2016 - 10:55 AM, said:

Frankly I am in the opposite camp Bishop. For me to throw money at the game again would be only if PGI were to make CW what it was advertised as. That's all. Do that and I will drop another grand on the game without even thinking about it. Do it well, where the mode feels "immersive", and at least has some inkling of lore, has significant cost and benefit for taking and losing planets and where each planet feels like a progressive campaign...then in that case I'd probably blow 2K within a year of its release.

Agreed Bud, Quickplay is the most stale mode ever. I generally dont bother playing it unless my unit is, i must level a mech.

PGI make Factionplay Great, or at least more than it currently is.

[3xnihilo]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 October 2016 - 11:05 AM, said:

Better pricing schemes rather than outrageous cash grabs like the recent bit of "content" and what the single packs have turned out to be and a commitment to either the 3025 envisioned version or an e-sport oriented game.

Hell at this point I would be ok if they announced MWO2 starting anew with a new engine, new mechlab (among other things), new focus, and some sort of carry over mechanism for those that have put money into this game.

I was just thinking the other day that it is too bad that PGI has burnt so many bridges with the player base because Inthink they could get a lot further with an MWO2 project with a better engine and a fresh start. I actually would fund a kickstarter for this even if it seems ill advised.

And in response to OP: I am on a limited spending plan right now, not totally shut but just small stuff like mechbays until some love is given to light mechs.

Edited by 3xnihilo, 03 October 2016 - 03:11 PM.

[Bud Crue]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 October 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

To be fair, both can live. Planetary leagues are not something new to MWO (MW4 had NBT and maybe a couple others), it just happens to be the first to be company run rather than player run, which means at best it will share the exact same problems as Mekwars (people want to be in sole control of their factions fate, not hamstrung by a bunch of loyalist units that have a habit of bringing factions down). To me CW would always fall short of what people wanted, what we always needed was better private lobbies and a lot better 3rd party league visibility.

We might recognize that both modes are possible, but based on the last NGNG podcast, it seems clear to me that Russ is abandoning any pretense at an "immersive" CW experience and instead going with QP with respawns. That may not necessarily be "esports" but it sure as hell aint immersive.

But seriously I am not asking for much. I would be just fine if they made everything about the game esports, as long as they gave us CW phase 2 and I think I would be okay with that. But I don't think they are interested in even that mediocre of a CW experience.