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[Alelock]

Gas Guzzler, on 25 October 2016 - 08:58 AM, said:

There are many and they are annotated with an "H" in the store I thought. You could also go this route for your first Timber: https://mwomercs.com/clan-heroes although those won't come out until mid November

In order to actually fully level the mech you need three of them, so one option is to buy the Timber Wolf pack in the store online, which gets you three Timbers, one of which with a 30% C-bill boost, but that cost 55 dollars. The hero is cheaper, and you can use it to grind out two more Timbers, but that will of course take time, but will cost less money, and you have a unique omni-pod set that you can't buy for c-bills.

$20 isn't bad. The main thing I need is something that is competitive (unlike my wet noodle catapult), enjoyable (unlike my wet noodle catapult), and can make money to help grind other things out.

[Gas Guzzler]

Alelock, on 25 October 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

$20 isn't bad. The main thing I need is something that is competitive (unlike my wet noodle catapult), enjoyable (unlike my wet noodle catapult), and can make money to help grind other things out.

Yeah, like I said in the next post, check out the Night Gyr and Kodiak, for the same 20$ as the Timber Hero, you get 3 mechs (no 30% c-bill bonus variant though, but you can elite the chassis with the 3 variants, which you can't do with one), 3 mechbays, and 30 days of premium time (which gets you a significant c-bill and XP boost).

The Kodiak-3 will print you C-bills with 2 UAC10s and 2 UAC5s, and will go the same speed as the Night Gyr (all Kodiaks come with an XL400), so actually... I think the Kodiak is your best option right now... it is 100 tons though which isn't great for Faction Play.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 25 October 2016 - 09:11 AM.

[Jman5]

Vote Conquest Mode every time it's up. You will make significantly more on a win than any other game mode.

[Johnny Z]

Alelock, on 25 October 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

$20 isn't bad. The main thing I need is something that is competitive (unlike my wet noodle catapult), enjoyable (unlike my wet noodle catapult), and can make money to help grind other things out.

Catapult is a fine mech, you got to treat mechs with more respect and get really good in a few of your choice. Getting super good in 1 is even better. I basically don't have to look at the heat gauge in my Cicada, and I can pilot it effortlessly to its max potential. That's how to do well and make good credits even in losing matches. Getting a good load out for any given mech, to perfection, can be really tough and expensive. I put 100 mill into my Orion Protector I bet.

Edited by Johnny Z, 25 October 2016 - 09:15 AM.

[Angel of Annihilation]

martian, on 25 October 2016 - 08:42 AM, said:

That's on purpose.

PGI wants you to spend cash instead of grinding. That's the basic operating principle of the majority of so-called Free-to-Play games.

Yep. Exact true.

My Suggestion is to buy one of the already released mech packs. For a $20 investment you will get all three chassis that you need to master all the skills on the mech, plus 30 days of premium time to help you earn some starter credits.

For clan, go for the Kodiak because it already has a relatively optimized engine plus you could probably come up with a decent build out of the weapons they come with without having to buy more than a few extra weapons. It also has massive firepower capability so you don't have to worry about hitting like a wet noodle.

For IS I would probably recommend the Warhammer though there your going to have to spend a bit of C-bills upgrading to endo and double heat sinks plus needing a few weapons. Still with 4.5 million C-bills in the bank you should have enough cash to handle those upgrades.

Kodiak is overall the best option because you don't really need more than a few weapons to come up with some kick butt builds.

Night Gyr would be another good option.

Just make sure your buying one of the already released packs because if you don't pay attention you can end up with a mech that you won't be able to play until Feb due to the excessive pre-order delay between them putting a mech up for sale and delivering it.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 25 October 2016 - 09:16 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Johnny Z, on 25 October 2016 - 09:11 AM, said:

Catapult is a fine mech, you got to treat mechs with more respect and get really good in a few of your choice. Getting super good in 1 is even better. I basically don't have to look at the heat gauge in my Cicada, and I can pilot it effortlessly to its max potential. That's how to do well even in losing matches.

Dude, we are trying to help this guy, this is not the thread to go on a "mediocre mechs are great" crusade.

[Single Mom]

Alelock, on 25 October 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

Hello all,

I'm a new player, for the second time around. When I played, a few years ago, I was able to buy a CPLT and I put on 2 U-AC5's and 4 med Lasers. I hit like a wet noodle and it really makes the game difficult to enjoy.

In playing with some friends, I have discovered that I really want a Timberwolf... yet I only have 4.5m credits. Does anyone have a how to of making credits quickly as it seems to be a VERY slow grind.

I should say that my friends, who I play with, are very high ELO, so it get dragged into strong matches, but I really have no desire to solo.

Any guidance would be great.

Buying heros and mechpacks are nice and all, but have you thought about just starting a new account? You'll get a huge bonus to earnings for your first 25 matches win or lose, after tutorial and earnings from those 25 matches you should be hanging out at 15-20mil. That's your timberwolf right there.

Aside from that, mechpacks for your dollars I guess. Also a Timberwolf hero is coming out in like 3 weeks.

[TLBFestus]

You are being killed by the group queue.

PGI doesn't make a friendly way to play with friends, evidently they want to punish friendship, so you need to go in to the SOLO/PUG queue and tough it out yourself.

Grab some premium time (often some is available for free during events) and stick with the herd!

[Stonekeg]

You gotta love what you do, so if you're loving those Timbers (a VERY solid choice) then go get em. The Kodiaks are a pretty safe bet, too. Personally, I'd lean towards the KDK basic pack for 20, and then the extra 15 for the hero. Spirit Bear rocks if you're comfy with CQC, and KDK 3 dakka is pretty much final evolution.

Admittedly, my KDK's are collecting dust while I work on my IS mechs, though.

[Johnny Z]

Gas Guzzler, on 25 October 2016 - 09:13 AM, said:

Dude, we are trying to help this guy, this is not the thread to go on a "mediocre mechs are great" crusade.

I play against players in top tier all the time that cant pilot at all. Balance isn't to bad and someone who has any mech with a good load out and a lot of experience piloting it can do very well in matches.

Ive seen guys take down 4 or 5 in an Awsome, legit.

Edited by Johnny Z, 25 October 2016 - 09:22 AM.

[Wrathful Scythe]

My take on it: get the Night Gyr together with the Hero (Jade Kite). 35$ might be a bit steep for a f2p title but after that the grind gets much better. 1 month of premium time together with a 30% bonus mech that can dish out tons of damage really brings in money. Of course you can also get the 20 $ package, enjoy the premium time and spend another 15$ for the hero, when your premium time ends.

Just ask here for some builds if you don't know what to do with it. The people here will be glad to help.

[Gas Guzzler]

Johnny Z, on 25 October 2016 - 09:20 AM, said:

I play against players in top tier all the time that cant pilot at all. Balance isn't to bad and someone who has any mech with a good load out and a lot of experience piloting it can do very well in matches.

You have been playing for a long time though. A new player will have an easier time grinding C-Bills in a KDK-3..

[Pariah Devalis]

Gas Guzzler, on 25 October 2016 - 09:22 AM, said:

You have been playing for a long time though. A new player will have an easier time grinding C-Bills in a KDK-3..

Yes and no. I generally suggest new players stay away from assaults or lights. Both ends of the spectrum punish bad positioning badly. One end cannot survive a hit, the other is a bullet magnet because it's huge and ponderous. Even the Kodiak isn't exactly a ballerina - though the Spirit Bear is with MASC. Even though the NTG is a heavy, it moves like an assault, and is about as big, so it might not be the greatest option, either.

Starting with a heavy or medium might be the better approach. I'd suggest the original poster mess with trial mechs. See how they like how the mechs feel before putting money down.

[Gas Guzzler]

Pariah Devalis, on 25 October 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:

Yes and no. I generally suggest new players stay away from assaults or lights. Both ends of the spectrum punish bad positioning badly. One end cannot survive a hit, the other is a bullet magnet because it's huge and ponderous. Even the Kodiak isn't exactly a ballerina - though the Spirit Bear is with MASC. Even though the NTG is a heavy, it moves like an assault, and is about as big, so it might not be the greatest option, either.

Starting with a heavy or medium might be the better approach. I'd suggest the original poster mess with trial mechs. See how they like how the mechs feel before putting money down.

I mean the Kodiak will move 70 and has high hardpoints.. I think it would be fine.

[Johnny Z]

Gas Guzzler, on 25 October 2016 - 09:22 AM, said:

You have been playing for a long time though. A new player will have an easier time grinding C-Bills in a KDK-3..

Well no player will do amazing in a mech they never piloted before. As a rule. If a newer player masters, outfits and plays the same mech for quite a while he will do well in it sooner rather than later.

[Bandilly]

Do the Halloween events, lots of cash up for grab, plus other goodies. Moar events over the course of time means more freebies. This particular event has an extreme amount of freebies up for grabs, the trick or treat loot bags have been yielding some very nice results.

Premium time and Heroes can both increase cash gained, as mentioned a mech that you are good in can have similar effects...and of course all three of these items stack.

Mastery bundles get you premium time and a hero (plus two other mechs, enough to master the chassis), but they are IS only and their price goes up as the mechs get bigger, so they start at $13 for the Locust and go up to $41 for the Atlas.

Otherwise a $20 mech bundle gets you 3 mechs and 30 days premium. Since all are the same price the Kodiak is the best deal, but you have to like assaults...it also helps that it's the best performing mech in the game currently.

Other than that find something that works for you and grind some matches out.

[0bsidion]

Alelock, on 25 October 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

$20 isn't bad. The main thing I need is something that is competitive (unlike my wet noodle catapult), enjoyable (unlike my wet noodle catapult), and can make money to help grind other things out.

Another option is to buy the Clan Timber Wolf A La Carte package, gets you the Prime (I) and 2 other variants plus mech bays for $55. The (I) version functions like the Hero mechs and gives you a 30% C-bill bonus.

Granted it isn't anywhere near as good a deal as more recent packs, but it'll save you a lot of time grinding for 3 Timbers to master.

Personally, after the tutorials and starting cash bonus you should be able to get your first Timber pretty quick though without spending any real money, as other people here have already mentioned.

[Hunka Junk]

If you want TBR fast, buy the Kodiak pack.

Sell the kodiaks and buy TBRs.

Better yet, buy the Kodiaks and play the Kodiaks.

[GrimRiver]

I highly suggest the "Sparky" which is in the Griffin mech line if you have real money to spend.

It's a hero mech with a 30% cbill bonus.

It has good weapon hardpoint locations, can spread damage good and is a good all arounder for most your needs.

Also I wouldn't recommend running XL engines if you're new since a single loss of a side torso for Inner sphere mechs will result in instant death equipped with an XL.

Timbers are solid mechs but most the builds people tend to recommend for it are usually tryhard meta builds.

The hunchback is a good medium starter mech, though mind the large right torso.

The Crab is really hardy and a good skirmisher.

The Shadow hawk is pretty good at a range of thing.

For clan mechs the stormcrow can suit any need you want it to.

Thunderbolt is a very good hardy heavy.

The Cataphract is also a hardy heavy.

I'm listing IS mechs mostly because they're cheaper and can preform just as or better than clans if used right.

Edited by GrimRiver, 25 October 2016 - 12:18 PM.

[Alelock]

Hunka Junk, on 25 October 2016 - 11:20 AM, said:

Better yet, buy the Kodiaks and play the Kodiaks.

This is what I am leaning towards.