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#121 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:27 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 27 October 2016 - 11:08 AM, said:

If we are talking about assaults, look no further than the Thunder Hawk or Pillager, both of which have the best chance of giving the MX90 a run for its money as best IS assault.

But, will they give the KDK-3 a run for its money.

Is there any IS assault ever that could I wonder?

#122 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:28 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 27 October 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Why not the Nightstar? It has higher mounted weapons than both, 400 capable variant and a JJ variant.

I'm just thinking purely meta, and for IS assaults, it isn't mixing ballistics and energy, but just pure dakka (specifically as much torso mounted concentrated dakka as possible) and those are the two best candidates.

If I were going for cool looking factor, Nightstar and Assassin would be my top two picks.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 27 October 2016 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:30 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 27 October 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

Is there any IS assault ever that could I wonder?


If they would introduce jump damage, I can think of one mech.

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#124 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:32 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 27 October 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

But, will they give the KDK-3 a run for its money.

Is there any IS assault ever that could I wonder?

Not without quirks, but imagine if you will, a variant of the Thunder Hawk with say 6B evenly spread across three sections (two of which are torsos). That would allow for 6 AC5s and an XL even if slow, or it could go faster with an XL and run a Mauler build. It would have more armor and more tonnage to play with though, and that is really the point since the Mauler runs so slow, it wishes it was 100 tons and had more to play with.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:34 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 27 October 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

I'm just thinking purely meta, and for IS assaults, it isn't mixing ballistics and energy, but just pure dakka (specifically as much torso mounted concentrated dakka as possible) and those are the two best candidates.

If I were going for cool looking factor, Nightstar and Assassin would be my top two picks.


A fair point for the torso mounts but I'm certain it'd get inflation. It'd be able to do quad uac5 or possibly ×5 AC5.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:40 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 27 October 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

I'm just thinking purely meta, and for IS assaults, it isn't mixing ballistics and energy, but just pure dakka (specifically as much torso mounted concentrated dakka as possible) and those are the two best candidates.

If I were going for cool looking factor, Nightstar and Assassin would be my top two picks.



What if the Nightstar got this as it's hero?
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#127 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:49 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 27 October 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

What if the Nightstar got this as it's hero?
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The Nightstar's problem is convergence, it would suffer much like the Eb Jag and King Crab do form the extremely wide arm hardpoints, not to mention by stripping armor of the arms you get more tonnage to play with. This is partially why the MX90 is the best dakka mech despite being stock at Whale speed (well than and good torso mounts).

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:57 AM

View PostBombast, on 27 October 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:


If they would introduce jump damage, I can think of one mech.

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Can you imagine the cries of the potatoes when they get one-shot by getting jumped on by something twice their size though? There would be car fires in the streets over how OP it is. And then Jumpjets would get nerfed even more.

#129 Y E O N N E

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:02 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 27 October 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:



What if the Nightstar got this as it's hero?
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Unfortunately, it would just be a cooler - looking King Crab with slightly better mounting points.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 27 October 2016 - 12:03 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:05 PM

View PostMole, on 27 October 2016 - 11:57 AM, said:

Can you imagine the cries of the potatoes when they get one-shot by getting jumped on by something twice their size though? There would be car fires in the streets over how OP it is. And then Jumpjets would get nerfed even more.


Easy fix - When you die due to DFA damage, you get a third person Kill Cam shot that shows the offending mech jumping and landing on you, complete with whatever horn they have (And, in the Highlanders case, a special animation, because yes).

If they do it right, I know I wouldn't be mad.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:09 PM

View PostBombast, on 27 October 2016 - 12:05 PM, said:


Easy fix - When you die due to DFA damage, you get a third person Kill Cam shot that shows the offending mech jumping and landing on you, complete with whatever horn they have (And, in the Highlanders case, a special animation, because yes).

If they do it right, I know I wouldn't be mad.

I wouldn't be mad either because I am well aware of the lore behind it. However... think of all the new players who don't know squat about Battletech when they get jumped on and instantly die. There will be riots.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:17 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 27 October 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:


Unfortunately, it would just be a cooler - looking King Crab with slightly better mounting points.


& less fragile. Good peeking ability would help it a lot.

#133 Graugger

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:19 PM

The next IS mech will be the http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hornet

This way they satisfy IS players with a new mech but keep it crappy enough that people will still go Clam only.

All that's left are Clan mechs dude.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:27 PM

View PostGraugger, on 27 October 2016 - 12:19 PM, said:

The next IS mech will be the http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hornet

This way they satisfy IS players with a new mech but keep it crappy enough that people will still go Clam only.

All that's left are Clan mechs dude.
I'd be happy with a Hornet. I'm not even joking, I really would.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:30 PM

View PostGraugger, on 27 October 2016 - 12:19 PM, said:

The next IS mech will be the http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hornet

This way they satisfy IS players with a new mech but keep it crappy enough that people will still go Clam only.

All that's left are Clan mechs dude.


20 ton jumper? Bad?

Are you crazy? People would lap that up. And the Clanners would be furious. And there are plenty more IS mechs.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:37 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 27 October 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

& less fragile. Good peeking ability would help it a lot.

It would help, but it would still have a bird style profile which doesn't make it the best peeker because it means it exposes a lot to poke compared to shoulder mounted humanoids and also tends to have easier to shoot torso sections since torso are always divided vertically rather than horizontally.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:39 PM

View PostMole, on 26 October 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

If it's over 35 tons my wallet is still shut tight. I don't know what it's going to be, but if PGI wants my money it better be a light.


Exactly the case for me. I have enough offerings above the light class right now. #lights need love 2.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:42 PM

View PostBombast, on 27 October 2016 - 12:30 PM, said:

20 ton jumper? Bad?

Are you crazy? People would lap that up. And the Clanners would be furious. And there are plenty more IS mechs.

Please tell me you forgot your /s tag?

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 12:43 PM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 27 October 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

Please tell me you forgot your /s tag?


Nope.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 01:36 PM

View PostBombast, on 27 October 2016 - 12:43 PM, said:


Nope.


See I wouldn't mind that or the Ostscout, but they would have to give the Ostscout better sensor range or something.





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