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[Hunka Junk]

DaZur, on 27 October 2016 - 09:07 AM, said:

Fixed that for ya.

Believe it or not... There's actually more players who never visit this forum than the number than do.

You got a sampling from a very vocal minority. I wouldn't cling to those numbers so tightly.

You are welcome to go knock on doors and get your people to the polls.

However, your characterizing 450 votes out of 600 as a vocal minority sounds a bit FoxNews.

[Positive Mental Attitude]

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[Bud Crue]

One of my favorite White Knight argument strategies is to assert that PGI has data based on actual games played, and that is why they make/made whatever stupid/absurd change the rest of us are complaining about at a given time. But I do love when PGI does something that even the White Knights dislike. Then they shift to: the change was made because they listened to a vocal minority of whiners. Wait, what about all that data?

In the case of ED this hypocrisy is even more blatant, because PGI set up the PTS for the sole purpose of collecting that data. Which now either shows a problem and PGI is reacting to that problem. Or that data shows no problems, but for some reason PGI is instead choosing to listen to a "few" whiners who were out to ruin ED.

Just priceless.

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[Gas Guzzler]

Hunka Junk, on 27 October 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

You are welcome to go knock on doors and get your people to the polls.

However, your characterizing 450 votes out of 600 as a vocal minority sounds a bit FoxNews.

Seriously. All you "vocal minority" callers, please encourage the alleged "majority" to go vote on it, wherever they may be.

[Scout Derek]

Deethree, on 27 October 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

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I doubt they did. I'll repeat what I said somewhere else:


Both good and bad.

Good because now we can have more time to deal with energy draw until later, and we can enjoy that much more without having to worry about ED.

Bad because some of us forumwarriors and others think that Russ shelved it because of Twitter and whining, which is false. ED was shelved mainly because of Mechcon that is coming soon, I think they wanted to shift more resources onto it to be more prepared for when we do go to it, and not have some halfass job of something to remember 2016 and the championship by.

[Mystere]

Gas Guzzler, on 27 October 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:

Way to ignore the arguments against energy draw. I play non-meta mechs all the time, and the non-comp tier mechs are the ones I am actually worried about. You need to open your eyes and actually read the arguments against ED instead of spouting some crappy assumptions based on ignorance.

As the saying goes, ignorance is bliss.

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Scout Derek, on 27 October 2016 - 10:00 AM, said:

I doubt they did. I'll repeat what I said somewhere else:


Both good and bad.

Good because now we can have more time to deal with energy draw until later, and we can enjoy that much more without having to worry about ED.

Bad because some of us forumwarriors and others think that Russ shelved it because of Twitter and whining, which is false. ED was shelved mainly because of Mechcon that is coming soon, I think they wanted to shift more resources onto it to be more prepared for when we do go to it, and not have some halfass job of something to remember 2016 and the championship by.

Look I have this dream in my head that PGI has the communities thoughts in mind when making decisions. Dont go ruining that for me...

Plus I cant stop buying mechpacks so I'm too invested anyway.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Hunka Junk, on 27 October 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

You are welcome to go knock on doors and get your people to the polls.

However, your characterizing 450 votes out of 600 as a vocal minority sounds a bit FoxNews.

Well, he isn't wrong if the subset of 600 votes is representative of the larger community as a whole. Whether that is the case *shrug*, considering it at least go posted on reddit, I'm sure quite a few of the comp minority voted so it may not, but then again I'd say the comp players are more likely (notice I said likely, as even they can be divided and wrong on what is best for gameplay) to make the informed decision on what is best for the game.

[DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley]

Here hold my beer!

I think I'm going to start a new thread called "The silent majority have whispered to me and they said they want the Mad Cat MK II!"

Anyway kidding aside. The poll has spoken I'm sorry but even if we are the vocal minority we are the only ones who really care if MWO sinks of swims!

[Hunka Junk]

Scout Derek, on 27 October 2016 - 10:00 AM, said:

and not have some halfass job of something to remember 2016 and the championship by.

Aha, so we're going to remember 2016 for the tournament and NOT something half-assed.

I'm trying to keep a straight face.

[DaZur]

Hunka Junk, on 27 October 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

You are welcome to go knock on doors and get your people to the polls.

However, your characterizing 450 votes out of 600 as a vocal minority sounds a bit FoxNews.

I'd love to discuss the alt-account ballot stuffing and comp-group fraternization inflation but I honestly don't have the breath to waste...

[Hunka Junk]

DaZur, on 27 October 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

I'd love to discuss the alt-account ballot stuffing and comp-group fraternization inflation but I honestly don't have the breath to waste...

Yup. The system is rigged. The media. The questions that get asked. Nasty women.

[Mcgral18]

DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 27 October 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

Here hold my beer!

I think I'm going to start a new thread called "The silent majority have whispered to me and they said they want the Mad Cat MK II!"

Anyway kidding aside. The poll has spoken I'm sorry but even if we are the vocal minority we are the only ones who really care if MWO sinks of swims!

Oh, don't worry


That's being announced at MechCon as the December Grabdeal


Calling it now

[DaZur]

Gas Guzzler, on 27 October 2016 - 09:54 AM, said:

Seriously. All you "vocal minority" callers, please encourage the alleged "majority" to go vote on it, wherever they may be.

They can't be bothered to visit this forum, what makes you think they'll drop in to participate in some contrived poll, not even mentioning I have no greater desire to prove or disprove this premise.

Hunka Junk, on 27 October 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

Yup. The system is rigged. The media. The questions that get asked. Nasty women.

I swear I grabbed no ones Va-JJ!

[Quicksilver Aberration]

DaZur, on 27 October 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

I'd love to discuss the alt-account ballot stuffing and comp-group fraternization inflation but I honestly don't have the breath to waste...

Alt-accounts work for both sides, hell isn't Atlas Overlord = Ordellus? He voted twice technically if that is the case, but the comp players did come out in droves for this vote so it was indeed a bit one sided (even if a few comp players voted for PD, like bearclaw and VVonka).

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 27 October 2016 - 10:22 AM.

[Scout Derek]

Deethree, on 27 October 2016 - 10:14 AM, said:

Look I have this dream in my head that PGI has the communities thoughts in mind when making decisions. Dont go ruining that for me...

Plus I cant stop buying mechpacks so I'm too invested anyway.

I already did. deal with it.

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Hunka Junk, on 27 October 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

Aha, so we're going to remember 2016 for the tournament and NOT something half-assed.

I'm trying to keep a straight face.

if you can't keep a straight face, I feel sorry for when you go play games with potatoes :>

[Deathlike]

DaZur, on 27 October 2016 - 10:21 AM, said:

They can't be bothered to visit this forum, what makes you think they'll drop in to participate in some contrived poll, not even mentioning I have no greater desire to prove or disprove this premise.

I dunno about you, but last time I remember the use of "silent majority" was used to justify a lot of the more unpopular decisions in MWO history.

I don't think you want to use them any more than PGI's random use for "telemetry" for inane balance decisions made either.

[Gas Guzzler]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 27 October 2016 - 10:21 AM, said:

Alt-accounts work for both sides, hell isn't Atlas Overlord = Ordellus? He voted twice technically if that is the case, but the comp players did come out in droves for this vote so it was indeed a bit one sided (even if a few comp players voted for PD, like bearclaw and VVonka).

Yes, they are the same person. I haven't used my alt account to vote because I thought that was dishonest.

[Mystere]

Duke Nedo, on 27 October 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

Sure, I mostly consider ED to be Ghost Heat 2.0, or 3.0 or whatever... GH1 does fill a purpose, it just does it in a way that is unintuitive and not integrated in the HUD, and it's full of inconsistencies.

So, PGI can integrate GH in the HUD and make it more consistent. They did not have to build a new mechanic and discourage mixed builds even more.

[Mystere]

Hunka Junk, on 27 October 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

Yup. The system is rigged. The media. The questions that get asked. Nasty women.

May HE win! The Rapture is upon us.