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#41 Bowelhacker

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Posted 18 December 2020 - 04:34 PM

View PostKnight Captain Morgan, on 17 December 2020 - 06:40 PM, said:

Lucky for you, PGI doesn't care jack **** about player reports be they AFK reports for hiding in the drop zones or non-participation reports for not fighting, or even team damage reports for shooting me in the back.


Oh, I disagree...

#42 Nightbird

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Posted 18 December 2020 - 04:40 PM

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Posted 18 December 2020 - 05:48 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 02 November 2016 - 10:56 AM, said:

Even if you are a brawler, you don't "push" to just push because you are a brawler.

Patience is the difference between a successful push and a horrible time.

Also, I thought this thread was supposed to be about our balance overlord in the public queues...

/shrug


nonsense. aggressive pushes win games when they work, and are fun as hell when they don't. its a win-win or me. its proper etiquette to wait until it is possible for the rest of the team to join you if they so choose, but they seldom do. besides all my patience gets used up at "searching...".

View PostNightbird, on 18 December 2020 - 04:40 PM, said:

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damn it! who didn't lock the cemetery gates again?

Edited by LordNothing, 18 December 2020 - 05:50 PM.


#44 martian

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Posted 19 December 2020 - 09:22 AM

View PostRickySpanish, on 17 December 2020 - 07:46 PM, said:

The MWO community is absolutely superbly good at thread necro. I've honestly never seen anything else like it. They're almost better at thread necro than whinging and moaning... Almost Posted Image
That's because it is written in the rules.

#45 VonBruinwald

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Posted 19 December 2020 - 11:14 AM

View PostRickySpanish, on 17 December 2020 - 07:46 PM, said:

The MWO community is absolutely superbly good at thread necro. I've honestly never seen anything else like it. They're almost better at thread necro than whinging and moaning... Almost Posted Image


Oldest necro I've seen was 12 years, not on here though, funny thing was I was the OP!

#46 PocketYoda

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Posted 19 December 2020 - 05:07 PM

View PostMrMadguy, on 02 November 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

When you are the only one, who push, and die early as the result? Or when your entire team decides to simply camp base at Assault? First can be treated as "suicide", but according to rules playing passively, i.e. "camping base" - is forbidden too. So who's right in this case?

I've just played such kind of match. It was Frozen City, that has completely open center - around 1000m of completely open space. I was in my brawler - 400m optimal range. Zero sniping capability. But edges of map still allow you to rush towards city part, that is perfect for brawling. Yeah. And I decided to do it. Bad thing - my whole team decided to camp base instead. Even Lights, lol. Yeah, I did all, I could do - dealt 200dmg and died due to zero support from my team. I have all my chats turned off especially for such cases, so I can only guess, what was happening in chat at that moment. But I was surely reported for suiciding.

So. Who is wrong and who is right? My 'Mech didn't have any sniping capabilities. I decided to do, what I was supposed to do in my build - to brawl. My team hasn't supported me. They violated rule, that forbids passive gameplay - camping, i.e. waiting for enemies to come to you, instead of moving towards them. And with their support my "suicide" wouldn't be a suicide. So it's my team, that "killed" me - not myself.

I've got sick of this stupid map. It's either counterclockwise NASCAR or camping opposite corners of "crater" at map's center. Recently map rotation have been extremely terrible - same maps, like Therma, Forest, Frozen, Caustic, etc. again, again and again, where Frozen is always "best of the worst". Can we stop this crappy "bring most unpopular maps" BS already? Game itself is terrible enough to also have terrible map rotation in it.

This is why drop decks in Quickmatch are a must imo.. If you take 4 mechs all different say long range, lrm boat, brawler and whatever you can judge what the map is almost instantly and you'd be able to choose which mech to take..

Is it polar yet again......... ok so i can either take my long range or a lrms type of thing, is it Solaris so i can take my brawler etc.. Yes i'm generalizing but it would make the game far more useful at the start if we could say pick one mech of 4 or 6 etc.

Could even add trial mechs for newbs drop decks.

Edited by Samial, 19 December 2020 - 05:18 PM.


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Posted 20 December 2020 - 03:57 AM

View PostSwamp ***, on 17 December 2020 - 05:44 PM, said:

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This is ********... Perhaps at the start of the round, we should just start reporting everyone for everything...

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Personally I am going to play to my play style, regardless of what anyone else thinks... Posted Image
Problem is that GM Patience obviously is only a BOT, banning temporarily accourding to number of reports !
IF theres a group from a unit in your QP, this FEATURE can be abused to create huge numbers of reports for players which the unit or group doesnt like resulting in at least a temporary bann even if the reported player didnt do anything wrong !
I dont call that JUSTICE, I call that MOBBING !

Like you, I prefer to play my style regardless of what anyone else thinks too, at least as long as I am SOLO playing in QP or 1v1.

Edited by Brother MEX, 20 December 2020 - 04:05 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2020 - 09:33 AM

View PostSamial, on 19 December 2020 - 05:07 PM, said:

This is why drop decks in Quickmatch are a must imo..


smh

#49 Brother MEX

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Posted 21 December 2020 - 10:38 AM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 19 December 2020 - 11:14 AM, said:

Oldest necro I've seen was 12 years, not on here though, funny thing was I was the OP!
Wont be possible in MW0 ... at least not until now Posted Image

PS: Look HERE: http://www.mordel.ne...p=109071#109071
Beat your oldest neco by several years Posted Image

Edited by Brother MEX, 21 December 2020 - 04:19 PM.


#50 R0gal D0rn

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Posted 22 December 2020 - 09:22 AM

This remembers me one of the first youtube clips by TTB featuring the machinegun piranha.... "Patience not included"


Patience to wait the ideal circunstances fto brawl

Pateince to SEE the DATE of a thread

#51 BackShot

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Posted 22 December 2020 - 10:38 AM

I dont think anyone deserve a report in that case, but you are just pointing out another reason why QP quality games are so bad :

-the fact that map is chosen AFTER everyone picked his mech already. With map being so oriented for a gamestyle or another as they are, you are basically flippin a coin. Will you end up with ppcs in solaris, or with srms on polar ? Not even to mention Lrms that can be devastating on 2 maps and completely useless on most of the others.

-the fact that there is nothing in the UI to show you what your teamates are mostly running as weapons, so you don't know if you have better stay back letting your snipers soft them up cause they are many, and will probably win the trades ? should they all instead follow the brawlers, cause the team is full of brawling weapons and should roll on enemy team if it pushes ? who knows.

So all of that lead in a complete mess, with completely disorganised teams, who have no clue about what would be more effective for them to do. ( Another reason why grouping in a 4 man is a huge advantage, having 4 coordinated mechs and the power of the vote to have the map that goes with it. )

A good and simple solution would be to call at the start of the game, even in the lobby, how many brawlers, midrange, long range there are in the team, and then quickly adopt a way to play the game. But i maybe saw that happening 10 times in thousands of games.

2 cool things that PGi could do ( and won't ), would be to :

- make people chosing their mech AFTER the map is selected, who would lead in more competitve matches with people bringing the good mech/build for the map.

-make the UI show you allies builds when you place your mouse on them or when you press A. so you can either know what your team is heavy on, and adapt.

Also i suggest to all solo pugs to ask to their 4 man premade what they plan to do at a start of a match and help them in their strat, since they are basically the only ones, with something that may look like a plan. ( in most case )

#52 VonBruinwald

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Posted 22 December 2020 - 12:05 PM

View PostBrother MEX, on 21 December 2020 - 10:38 AM, said:

Wont be possible in MW0 ... at least not until now Posted Image

PS: Look HERE: http://www.mordel.ne...p=109071#109071
Beat your oldest neco by several years Posted Image


Deliberately finding the oldest thread you can and bumping it is not a necro, that's trolling.

Keep up the good work.

#53 General Solo

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Posted 23 December 2020 - 05:10 AM

Good way to bury the real issues/news





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