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#81 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 01:08 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 29 November 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:


NO.

2 battles going on at the Steiner and Falcon front. Better go tell them to get the heck out of FW.

why currently are those players playing? I don't know everyones reason for not playing FW, but there are players that still want to play. I guess since December 3rd is around the corner, mine might be a moot position but I think activity needs to gradually buzz back in, rather than thinking everyone is going to jump right in.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 29 November 2016 - 01:10 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 01:16 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 29 November 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

2 battles going on at the Steiner and Falcon front. Better go tell them to get the heck out of FW.

why currently are those players playing? I don't know everyones reason for not playing FW, but there are players that still want to play. I guess since December 3rd is around the corner, mine might be a moot position but I think activity needs to gradually buzz back in, rather than thinking everyone is going to jump right in.


Players will play if they want.

The problem is convincing them of staying there.

When the population is what it is, you can't convince the masses to join something that a minority play. It doesn't ever work like that.

There doesn't even need to be threads about "don't play CW/FW", because right now it's already a self-perpetuating reality... because the gamemode is NOT FUN.

It is as simple as that.

#83 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 01:18 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 29 November 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:


the gamemode is NOT FUN.


I am sorry? are you that egotistical that you speak for everyone. When I got a 12 man a few nights ago, we enjoyed ourselves very much. So speak for yourself.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 29 November 2016 - 01:22 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 01:23 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 29 November 2016 - 01:18 PM, said:

I am sorry? are you that egotistical that you speak for everyone. When I got a 12 man a few nights ago, we enjoyed ourselves very much. So speak for yourself.


Yes, I'm speaking for the bulk of us that don't play FW as currently constituted and only played when bribed.

I didn't say these folks don't exist... but again... that gameplay mode is literally in the definition of the minority.

#85 Imperius

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 01:32 PM

Sorry it's time to MWO to move on to NEW features and FW will have to take a seat on the back burner.

It was put to a vote the people want PVE then Solaris after that there may be options to fix FW like adding AI in for drops when no one is playing. Plus we haven't seen the buckets reduced yet.

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 07:12 PM

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

Sorry it's time to MWO to move on to NEW features and FW will have to take a seat on the back burner.

It was put to a vote the people want PVE then Solaris after that there may be options to fix FW like adding AI in for drops when no one is playing. Plus we haven't seen the buckets reduced yet.


There is a reason "the people" aren't allowed to decide the focus of games. This is why.

Adding AI to fill multiplayer queue is beyond moronic. Adding PVE into a strictly multiplayer game to further starve the queue is also moronic. There is a reason this game is called Mechwarrior ONLINE and not Mechwarrior 5.

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 07:17 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 29 November 2016 - 01:23 PM, said:



Yes, I'm speaking for the bulk of us that don't play FW as currently constituted and only played when bribed.

I didn't say these folks don't exist... but again... that gameplay mode is literally in the definition of the minority.


I am not playing FP now only because I maxed rank and FP is half built. What there is of it is amazing, minus the lobby thing. Also like I say its half built.

Edited by Johnny Z, 29 November 2016 - 07:17 PM.


#88 Imperius

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 07:17 PM

View PostImperial X, on 29 November 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:


There is a reason "the people" aren't allowed to decide the focus of games. This is why.

Adding AI to fill multiplayer queue is beyond moronic. Adding PVE into a strictly multiplayer game to further starve the queue is also moronic. There is a reason this game is called Mechwarrior ONLINE and not Mechwarrior 5.

lol everyone came here for mechwarrior 5. Instead we got a Pokémon mech themed cod esports beta

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:06 PM

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 07:17 PM, said:

lol everyone came here for mechwarrior 5. Instead we got a Pokémon mech themed cod esports beta


I came here for multiplayer focused Mechwarrior. Which is exactly what is provided. Anyone who came to this game for Mechwarrior 5 ignored all information to the contrary.

#90 Imperius

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:08 PM

View PostImperial X, on 29 November 2016 - 08:06 PM, said:


I came here for multiplayer focused Mechwarrior. Which is exactly what is provided. Anyone who came to this game for Mechwarrior 5 ignored all information to the contrary.

Guess you don't watch the town halls and must have started during steam.

Look at the end credits you'll see a familiar name. It was the agenda till they got sued, out of that rubble came this beta.


Edited by Imperius, 29 November 2016 - 08:10 PM.


#91 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:12 PM

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 08:08 PM, said:


Look at the end credits you'll see a familiar name. It was the agenda till they got sued, out of that rubble came this beta.



more unfounded claims. I wouldn't expect less from a guy who can make his own data sets outliers.

by the way, a cease and disist order was made by HG, but that has nothing to do with this claim. The order was due to the use of the warhammer by the way.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 29 November 2016 - 08:17 PM.


#92 Imperius

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:20 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 29 November 2016 - 08:12 PM, said:

more unfounded claims. I wouldn't expect less from a guy who can make his own data sets outliers.

by the way, a cease and disist order was made by HG, but that has nothing to do with this claim. The order was due to the use of the warhammer by the way.

No really Sherlock?

Did you actually think I meant PGI sued themselves to stop mw5 to make MWO?

Wow... I'm just gonna have to put you on Ignore soon. If you could at least come at me with legitimate counter points I'd argue with you, never mind it's not worth explaining...

Edited by Imperius, 29 November 2016 - 08:21 PM.


#93 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:23 PM

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 08:20 PM, said:

No really Sherlock?

Did you actually think I meant PGI sued themselves to stop mw5 to make MWO?

Wow... I'm just gonna have to put you on Ignore soon. If you could at least come at me with legitimate counter points I'd argue with you, but we'll never mind it's not worth explaining...

nice incoherent straw man there, just one grade above a garbage post. At least its not a dishonest post, which you are known for.

"It was the agenda till they got sued, out of that rubble came this beta."-this is what I was talking about.

how are what they produced at beta, and then entering in legal trouble with use of an image related.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 29 November 2016 - 08:25 PM.


#94 Imperius

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:27 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 29 November 2016 - 08:23 PM, said:

nice incoherent straw man there, just one grade above a garbage post. At least its not a dishonest post, which you are known for.

"It was the agenda till they got sued, out of that rubble came this beta."-this is what I was talking about.

how are what they produced at beta, and then entering in legal trouble with use of an image related.

Because if you checked the end of the video you'd see PGI branding on the game.. 7 years ago MWO has been out for about 5...

PGI originally planned to do mw5 until HG sued them.., MWO is what got salvaged out of that!

Edit: Don't ever call me dishonest I'm not the one making promises left and right to fans and not delivering on them.

Edited by Imperius, 29 November 2016 - 08:30 PM.


#95 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:33 PM

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 08:27 PM, said:

Because if you checked the end of the video you'd see PGI branding on the game.. 7 years ago MWO has been out for about 5...


I don't know if they were actually going to do a 5, because there was a 4 it's kinda assumed so I guess I will accept that.

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 08:27 PM, said:


PGI originally planned to do mw5 until HG sued them.., MWO is what got salvaged out of that!


This is unfounded, I doubt getting sued over an image is going to shift the focus of what they planned to make that drastically. I mean so what, no warhammer. Why didn't they use any other mech besides that one.

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 08:27 PM, said:


Edit: Don't ever call me dishonest I'm not the one making promises left and right to fans and not delivering on them.

well, you are making a claim that doesn't have good evidence, but you are trying to pass it off as fact. What do you call it then?

By the way, the trailer does not say MW5, it just says mechwarrior.

on another note, PGI needs to work on making the whole environment destructible

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 29 November 2016 - 08:36 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:39 PM

Blocked... the fact you can't see facts when presented right in front of you plane as day!

The very end of the video shows PGIs involvement.
If mw4 was the last mechwarrior then obviously this one would have been 5 also video title is MW5.
They got sued! What came after??? Yeah that's right MWO!

Edited by Imperius, 29 November 2016 - 08:39 PM.


#97 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:41 PM

This guy can not give evidence to save his life. Instead of giving evidence he blocks me, does anybody have evidence for his claim?

who in their right mind is going to think that because somebody go sued fof an Image that the game would radically change direction.

the games initial direction rested on the image of a warhammer, lol

maybe I should stop asking for evidence, seems to get me blocked. Gonna chuck this into the conspiracy garbage list.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 29 November 2016 - 08:44 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 09:30 PM

View PostImperius, on 29 November 2016 - 08:08 PM, said:

Guess you don't watch the town halls and must have started during steam.

Look at the end credits you'll see a familiar name. It was the agenda till they got sued, out of that rubble came this beta.




Actually, I've been playing this game off and on since Beta. You would know that if you looked at my profile instead of just making assumptions.

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 29 November 2016 - 08:41 PM, said:

This guy can not give evidence to save his life. Instead of giving evidence he blocks me, does anybody have evidence for his claim?

who in their right mind is going to think that because somebody go sued fof an Image that the game would radically change direction.

the games initial direction rested on the image of a warhammer, lol

maybe I should stop asking for evidence, seems to get me blocked. Gonna chuck this into the conspiracy garbage list.


From Wikipedia:

The game was officially announced in July 2009 with a three-minute debut trailer. At the time, the game was dubbed simply as MechWarrior, as it was meant to be a reboot of the series and not a continuation of the previous four games.[13] The official title of MechWarrior Online came later in development. In October 2011 a Twitter campaign was launched as the start of the advertising campaign.[14]
Initial problems over finding a publisher were resolved when a new Canadian Publisher local to Piranha Studios, met and discussed joining forces. Once a way forward had been established, this new publishing group, who had been interested in developing and publishing such a title, created Infinite Game Publishing (IGP). This was precipitated by the purchase by Piranha of the licensing rights to MechWarrior from Smith & Tinker, which it was hoped would create more positive responses from publishing companies. With a publisher and funding found, Piranha could commit financially to the project and press ahead with development.

There is also this post:

Take from it what you will...

https://www.rockpape...-but-its-tough/


There has never been any official naming of a Mechwarrior 5 game, except by third party hopefuls, in regards to this game. At least that I could find. So until I also see proof beyond a youtube title for a cinematic trailer with absolutely NO gameplay footage, I'm going with Blood Wolf on this one.

Mechwarrior 5 was scrapped by Microsoft in 2003-2004 and was never heard from again.

#99 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 09:58 PM

Sources? I am impressedPosted Image

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 10:27 PM

View PostChuck Jager, on 27 November 2016 - 10:56 AM, said:


Believe it or not 3 years ago, before the exodus begun, the high level teams in group Q were better and more numerous. The whippings were shorter and a lot harder, but the overall quality of play by everyone was also better, because everybody understood it was sink or swim.

Totally agree here..but then you had about 50k+ MW vets playing, the founders, guys who had played competitively in multiple huge Leagues with hundreds of teams involved many being large teams..
Todays Comp scene is a few dozen 12 mans all playing each other in a couple leagues or farming either the FW or QP q, not blaming them but the way the MMs are set up and pop numbers, where else can they play..





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