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[Gas Guzzler]

BattleBunny, on 06 December 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

He should ask the question on his own forum.

I hope this means they want to focus on other content. He phrased the question a bit to ....absolute.

Nope, he clarified that stopping mech production does not mean that they will speed up development.

Instead you might see things like custom mech geometry, but that could present issues with hitboxes.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 06 December 2016 - 01:45 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Baulven, on 06 December 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

I do not mind mechs. I would love to see other purchasable assets such as tanks, aerospace, etc but I do not think there is enough savy with the current engine to make them work. I would be completely for aerotech and vtols personally. Maybe even LAMs if we go off the deep end.

The problem with adding other unit types is the impact on gameplay they would have. Tanks have less impact compared to aerospace/vtols/LAMs which get to make full use of another dimension which has a huge impact on how a map is played.

[Chuck Jager]

The issue though is how do you fix the plumbing if you refuse to turn off the water main?

From a game balance point of view, we got too many choices that allow too much customization. This makes the spread in damage output hard to manage when setting up teams. This also hurts most experimentation while punishing your teammates while making OP builds that much more impressive.

The only fix would be to start mirroring weapon placement and speed, but give cosmetic changes to allow the flavor but to more easily balance all mechs. So you get a healer, glass cannon, tank and stealth/speedster in different clothing. Wait sounds familiar.

I think both of these ships will not sail at all. This issue is not all of PGIs fault. They inherited from the core of lore translated into TT. PGI can not ignore the background, but at a certain time it is like we are trying to fight a balance war with muzzle loading shotguns.

[CK16]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 December 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

Nope, he clarified that stopping mech production does not mean that they will speed up development.

Instead you might see things like custom mech geometry, but that could present issues with hitboxes.

People never believe that...or choose to listen. Usually the "wanna buy a mech pack crowd"

[Navid A1]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 December 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

Like what, custom mech geometry? No thanks.

No, I'd rather have mechs than custom geo.
By other things I meant more map assets, exciting urban areas, etc...

Besides.. I already voted No to that question.
I still need my Blood Asp and Fire moth and NovaCat and a whole lot of IS Omnis (i.e. Sunder)

Edited by Navid A1, 06 December 2016 - 01:50 PM.

[Khalcruth]

SuperFunkTron, on 06 December 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

Haven't they repeatedly stated that the team that takes care of news mechs is completely separate from the people who take care of other aspects of the game?

Yes, but unless money is infinite, if you spend it on one aspect (say, paying someone to make a mech mech), you can't also spend it on another aspect (say, paying someone to make a new game mode).

On another note - if you look at the twitter link, but do not have a twitter account, there's no poll shown. So it literally looks like a statement - "MWO has enough mechs". Maybe someone with a twitter account should point that out to him. He might not want to be misunderstood.

[MauttyKoray]

Appogee, on 06 December 2016 - 12:54 PM, said:

So you can choose between "no thanks we have enough Mechs" and "yes I'd like some more Mechs".

Gosh I wonder what people will choose.

Ask the wrong question, get a useless answer.

The real question should be: "would you like more Mechs ... or instead, fixes to hitreg, tanks, a new PSR system and a working matchmaker, more maps, or ... all the other things we actually need instead of more Mechs".

Because the artists work on hitreg, PSR system, and matchmaker... Because the mech modelers work on maps/map assets...

I'm not sure what you mean by tanks...like actual tank, or the mechs that are big damage sponges?

[Dee Eight]

Maybe he's responding to the employees who are sick of forum trolls whining every month when their hard work is revealed. Alex got a wholly original mech design of his created as the latest and it was hundreds of complaints in the hours leading up to the PGI's announcements at mechcon happened and subsequently Randall officially canonized the thing. When your hard work gets continually sheet on by the repeated vocal people who very often aren't even actually buying the things anyway (the closed wallet brigade), well...its enough to make you want to consider devoting your talents elsewhere.

[Wecx]

Russ is a joke, He has said many times that Mech Packs have a separate team and don't impact "Features." if this was the case why is he even asking.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Wecx, on 06 December 2016 - 02:02 PM, said:

Russ is a joke, He has said many times that Mech Packs have a separate team and don't impact "Features." if this was the case why is he even asking.

this guy does not understand a few things. Do I bother to explain anything, that is the question

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 06 December 2016 - 02:05 PM.

[TWIAFU]

Navid A1, on 06 December 2016 - 12:48 PM, said:

Russ is asking.
Go vote:
https://twitter.com/...234146620047360


What I think is that the question is worded badly.
I'd say slowing down on mech releases would be perfect (one every 2-3 months).
Take that time to tend to other aspects of the game.

Well, if Russ wants to know what I think he can come to his game forums and ask me.

Otherwise, I know what can be done with twitter and it will be under 140 characters.

[Baulven]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 06 December 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

The problem with adding other unit types is the impact on gameplay they would have. Tanks have less impact compared to aerospace/vtols/LAMs which get to make full use of another dimension which has a huge impact on how a map is played.

I admit I would love this feature because HBS could easily put it into battletech and MW5 (if made) can have them as AI opponents. Beyond that my favorite part of the rpg was aerotech even if I was not always used.

[Peter2k]

Navid A1, on 06 December 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

No, I'd rather have mechs than custom geo.
By other things I meant more map assets, exciting urban areas, etc...

Besides.. I already voted No to that question.
I still need my Blood Asp and Fire moth and NovaCat and a whole lot of IS Omnis (i.e. Sunder)

Russ also said the vote could influence pacing

[Peter2k]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 December 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

Like what, custom mech geometry? No thanks.

Clan Diamond Shark camo retrofit
Other stuff that people would love to see

Reducing pace may make it easier to go for other revenue streams
Like anything else eye candy

N0MAD, on 06 December 2016 - 01:22 PM, said:

Thats a rigged poll if i ever seen one, notice its on twitter where all his fanbois hang out, since hes blocked anyone thats not a fanboi. of course hes going to get an over whelming yes vote...just lol.
Why not bring that poll to the forums..

That's funny since its an overwhelming no vote

BLOOD WOLF, on 06 December 2016 - 02:10 PM, said:

well. we dont need one for other things

I literally don't know that means

Edited by Peter2k, 06 December 2016 - 02:15 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Peter2k, on 06 December 2016 - 02:06 PM, said:

Russ also said the vote could influence pacing

well. we dont need one for other things

Wecx, on 06 December 2016 - 02:02 PM, said:

Russ is a joke, He has said many times that Mech Packs have a separate team and don't impact "Features." if this was the case why is he even asking.

Let me clarify, because you do not understand development. They never mixed. The people working on packs are not the people working on the other stuff,such as getting FW on the way and such and the things they showed us recently. That does not mean that if they slow the production of mechs that they could not put those people to work on other things. There is a distinction that is made, the question is do you get it

[The Lobsters]

Stupid question, so I voted yes, because I'm stupid.

[Wecx]

BLOOD WOLF, on 06 December 2016 - 02:10 PM, said:

well. we dont need one for other things

Let me clarify, because you do not understand development. They never mixed. The people working on packs are not the people working on the other stuff,such as getting FW on the way and such and the things they showed us recently. That does not mean that if they slow the production of mechs that they could not put those people to work on other things. There is a distinction that is made, the question is do you get it

Russ hasn't even finished the Classic line-up, so yeah it is a stupid question.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Wecx, on 06 December 2016 - 02:14 PM, said:

Russ hasn't even finished the Classic line-up, so yeah it is a stupid question.

did he ever say he was never going to make another mech? the question was not that MWO was not getting other mechs. There is a distinction to be made.

remember if they stop making mechs for a while or reduce the number of mechs made, thats unspent resources that need to be put somewhere else.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 06 December 2016 - 02:22 PM.

[TWIAFU]

Wecx, on 06 December 2016 - 02:14 PM, said:

Russ hasn't even finished the Classic line-up, so yeah it is a stupid question.

Shocked the head honcho would ask us if we want more mechs in a mech game.

Stunned. Just shows he does not read nor is informed of what goes on here. He would know the answer to that question of he looked at "Unannounced Light Mech" thread.

Yea, mech pilots do not want more mechs to pilot.

[RestosIII]

Peter2k, on 06 December 2016 - 02:10 PM, said:

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