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[Bandilly]

MrVei, on 13 December 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

when are the quirks list going to be posted???

In the patch notes. The 8 gets 15% missile cool down and that's it, nothing on the rest.

[Antares102]

MrVei, on 13 December 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

when are the quirks list going to be posted???

Only the early adopter variant got a single 15% missle cooldown quirk.
Otherwise MAD IIC got no quirks.

Edited by Antares102, 13 December 2016 - 09:28 AM.

[MovinTarget]

Nor should it, initially...

[Bandilly]

Marack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 13 December 2016 - 08:32 AM, said:

And "f2p"... yeah its only Free if you want to play bare bones, not color your mech, nor have decals, hero mechs, etc.

Play more events. The free MC from events let's you buy heroes, dekkals, and colors. Otherwise you occasionally get some of those items directly as event rewards.

[Widowmaker1981]

So Marak, you want TT rules?

You want AC2s with the same rate of fire as PPCs?

You want random hit location tables?

You want clans to be literally god mode?

The fact is, TT isnt balanced mech to mech, at all. Its sort of maybe ish slightly balanced when BV is taken into account, but that obviously doesnt fly when one player = one mech. Its also not balanced weapon to weapon, unless you think that the AC10/5/2 is balanced vs the PPC? (they are not, not even close)

We have far better balance in MWO than any previous mechwarrior game, where lasers were frolicking OP as all hell due to no beam durations and being hitscan. You just *think* they had better balance because you played single player and AI doesnt play to win. Lights (while not in a good spot right now, admittedly) are in a far better place than previous games which didnt even try to make lighter mechs viable.

[Antares102]

Marack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 13 December 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:

Neither is this game. This is a game where all you need is missiles.

You have never played this game above potato level, have you?
LRMs are useless... everyone who played this game on a competitive level will agree to that.
Have you seen any top team using LRM lately?

[Widowmaker1981]

Marack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 13 December 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:

Since when does TT balance translate directly too "ALL TT RULES." I swear you people must speak some forgotten or broken form of English.

So, you want 'some' TT rules, but not all - thats what we have. You probably need to be more specific about *which* TT rules you think we should follow but arent

Marack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 13 December 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:

Neither is this game. This is a game where all you need is missiles.

hahahaha. OK dude, you apparently know.. nothing at all about how this game plays if you think that. Missiles are easily the worst of the three weapon categories. Carry on, im not going to bother.

[MovinTarget]

@Marack

I'm not trolling you, I hope can see that at this point, I appreciate the perspective of someone that was around before I came into MWO.

I will grant you LT sucked monkey balls until we learned to just "return to sender" for hilarious results.

As far as clans being nerfed to uselessness... I would disagree. Many of the clan mechs are still pretty dang awesome and the 2 ER PPC Summoner is a beast when you pilot right. Out of the gate, with Clan Wave I, Clan tech was just too powerful, I don't begrudge them trying to downgrade it a bit, while keeping it different. I've been on record for some time (Feb 16, I think) asserting that we pretty have about the best clan/IS balance we've ever had at this point, the outlying factors are hard to control: Piloting/Gunnery skill and population.

LRMs... I am not gonna touch that topic as I've said my share in other threads... lol

Edited by MovinTarget, 13 December 2016 - 09:48 AM.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

Maintenance status is all green and I can't get in :|

[Hawk819]

The Unstoppable Puggernaut, on 13 December 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

Maintenance status is all green and I can't get in :|

Same here.

[Alzorath]

The Unstoppable Puggernaut, on 13 December 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

Maintenance status is all green and I can't get in :|

yup... same here...

[MovinTarget]

Its a feature

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

The cake is a lie !

[Temjin TJ]

Still can't get in!!!
I want my MAD IIC Fix NOW!!!!!
Just have to wait a little longer.

[Uncle Totty]

Well there we go. They fixed (unbroke) it.

Edited by Uncle Totty, 13 December 2016 - 11:16 AM.

[MovinTarget]

Marack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 13 December 2016 - 09:55 AM, said:

"When you pilot it right." Well there is no such thing as piloting right. Everyone has their own ways of piloting mechs. Also Clan tech yes was too powerful when it started. But now we are to the point where Clan mechs are many times worse than their Inner Sphere counterparts on many levels.

I think if PGI enforced honor rules on the Clans and turned their weapons and stats up to TT standards things would be a lot better. As was said before, the Clans were beaten by their honor. So why don't we implement honor rules. PGI could set up a system where Clan players who continuously break the rules then get kicked from the Clan. This makes players abide by the Clan system, and that would then mean we could have Clan mechs be the OP they were meant to be, and not this pathetic shell of what they were.

I feel there are inherent differences now with the IS mechs being by and large tankier and more durable and Clan is more offensive still. You typically can't play IS like you play Clan and vice versa.

Yes, each chassis has its own strengths and weaknesses, but I can say with some confidence that I can get comparable scores in FP whether I'm Clams or IS (after a few days to re-adjust to what I'm driving)

I don't know how they'd enforce the clan honor system, it would be cool if they could for some RP aspect, it just seems like that would be a lot of complexity and I will grant you that more complex things get, the harder it is to anticipate the overall effect, but that is a programming reality, not just a PGI/MWO reality.

Edited by MovinTarget, 13 December 2016 - 11:19 AM.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

Antares102, on 13 December 2016 - 09:41 AM, said:

You have never played this game above potato level, have you?
LRMs are useless... everyone who played this game on a competitive level will agree to that.
Have you seen any top team using LRM lately?

thats clearly cause they dont know how... a team built around using them can utterly destroy. but there are some keywords in my statements that are greatly overlooked in general... words like Team & Built Around. Also need to have the tactics and understanding of how to use the weapons platform, anyone who is deriding Fire Support is quite obviously missing the concept of Total Warfare.

[Temjin TJ]

Finally got to download the Patch!!!
Whether a Mech is Good or Bad all depends on who is piloting it.
I know that I'm not a good as 65% of the players on MWO.
Sure I die a lot, but I keep slowly climbing up that tall learning tree mountain.
Why? Because I have a lot of fun out there and it lets me dream that I'm really piloting a Mech that I setup in Mech Lab to what works for me.
Happy MAD IIC Day everyone!!!
See you on the BF 'All Systems Nominal'

[Temjin TJ]

MAD IIC Bliss
Well I tried her out and helped to win my 1st Quick Match in Her.
Takes Damage Well, Great Cockpit View, Funny Sounding War Horn, Pretty Mobile for an 85 tonner.
Love How She Looks.
Looks to Be Patterned after the MechWarrior AOD Vanguard IIC.
Just have to keep getting used to her.

[Odanan]

Played some matches with the 3 ballistics torso and It's a solid mech. Used AC10s, but Im very tempted to put 2 Gauss Rifles there...