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[Karl Streiger]

TheArisen, on 08 December 2016 - 10:48 PM, said:

The Dragonfire is the 75 tonner we need. High mounts, ecm & a P.P.C (projected phallus cannon)

I'd love the Cerberus but it's behind the Nightstar for me.

Nah - the DragonFire is ugly as hell with its scrotch gun. IS finally need a real fast heavy (Quickdraw and Dragons are fat mediums): Falconer, Hercules, Thunder, Daikyu, Flashman

the cerb only as alternative for the annihilator - but i really want to see those tears

[Aramoro999]

Bombast, on 08 December 2016 - 06:43 PM, said:

No, it's because only the Clans like retreaded designs. True IS connoisseurs require new and exciting designs, not repackaging.

Besides, if we're going for a medium Omnimech, the Strider is cooler.

#StridersGonnaStride

yeah get some single heatsink omis

Navid A1, on 08 December 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

Hope you like your locked single heat sinks and standard 240 engine!

XD XD XD

oh yeah and engine too

Edited by Aramoro999, 08 December 2016 - 11:25 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Bombast, on 08 December 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Seriously? There's an absolute crap ton of mechs, IS wise, that can be made with the current tech base, and a double crap ton if they gave IS the full SSRM, Ultra, and LB-X range.

Or are you just asking what we want? In which case, once again, #DervishOrIRiot #SunderOrIRiot.

The key word was "exciting". But yeah, Sunder would get my vote.

[Tristan Winter]

The only exciting new IS heavy mech would be an omnimech, in my opinion.

Also, now that PGI has improved the code for collisions... y'all know we're one step closer to getting the Axman!

[TheArisen]

Tristan Winter, on 09 December 2016 - 12:52 AM, said:

The only exciting new IS heavy mech would be an omnimech, in my opinion.

Also, now that PGI has improved the code for collisions... y'all know we're one step closer to getting the Axman!

I'm just hopeful for the Berzerker someday.

[Juodas Varnas]

Quadrupeds would definitely be new and exciting.

[NextGame]

Hit the Deck, on 08 December 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

Sorry for sounding like a broken record but..., is it possible without new tech?

Annihilator is too slow and you need to ask PGI to break the engine limit rule to make it otherwise.

Axman and Assassin are just for Winter and Bishop, respectively.

I'd like a Hollander but because I just love the idea of a 'Mech built around a gun! ....and because of MechCommander.

There are Gunslinger and other 'Mechs which can do dual Gauss or boat ballistic but, I guess Clan 'Mechs can do it better like always barring quirks.

There are hundreds of mechs they could add if they wanted to. I'm hoping that they will add some of the earlier stuff in order to beef up the mechwarrior 5 roster.

[MischiefSC]

TheArisen, on 08 December 2016 - 10:48 PM, said:

The Dragonfire is the 75 tonner we need. High mounts, ecm & a P.P.C (projected phallus cannon)

I'd love the Cerberus but it's behind the Nightstar for me.

Again, it's all about high mounts. That's sorta the problem.

Bombast, on 08 December 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

Yup. EDIT: Specifically, 'yup' to the opinion bit. The rest of it is baseless assumption.



But you are WRONG. The Anvil looks exactly like most of the early, FASA made (Not You Know What) TRO designs. I don't know where in the hell you're getting this 'Not like Battletech' thing.



What kind of shifting ******** is this. Are you against the Anvil because it's a player made design (Which I still would like proof of), or because it doesn't 'look Battletech' (Which is most certainly does)? Make up your mind on what basis you want mechs to be included.



Dude. People want the Anvil. It comes up pretty frequently. Does it have a Mad Cat MK II following? No, but very few mechs are left with that kind of pull.

A handful of people have named the Anvil. Prior to this thread if you'd put up a poll with 20 IS heavy mechs on it and had the Anvil in the list and just told them to rate them first to last the majority would have to check Sarna for what mech the Anvil even is.

It's in the same category as the Black Lanner. Barely rates a 'meh'. The only reason it's relevant here is high hardpoints and it's unlikely to get the Kodiak treatment where the hardpoint inflation goes UP instead of chest level.

Oh, by the way? 'Look like Battletech'?


That's just a couple of them.

A focus on function over form, etc. etc.

Again, this isn't about your opinion or mine. It's the aggregate. The Anvil (like the majority of mechs in TROs 3048 and later) isn't that popular or relevant, it's pretty much just filler. It's got high mounts, JJs and ECM at 60 tons - which is an unfortunate tonnage.

Not that I'm sure Alex couldn't remake it pretty... but why not just make a new mech?

[TheArisen]

MischiefSC, on 09 December 2016 - 01:55 AM, said:

Again, it's all about high mounts. That's sorta the problem.



A handful of people have named the Anvil. Prior to this thread if you'd put up a poll with 20 IS heavy mechs on it and had the Anvil in the list and just told them to rate them first to last the majority would have to check Sarna for what mech the Anvil even is.

It's in the same category as the Black Lanner. Barely rates a 'meh'. The only reason it's relevant here is high hardpoints and it's unlikely to get the Kodiak treatment where the hardpoint inflation goes UP instead of chest level.

Oh, by the way? 'Look like Battletech'?


That's just a couple of them.

A focus on function over form, etc. etc.

Again, this isn't about your opinion or mine. It's the aggregate. The Anvil (like the majority of mechs in TROs 3048 and later) isn't that popular or relevant, it's pretty much just filler. It's got high mounts, JJs and ECM at 60 tons - which is an unfortunate tonnage.

Not that I'm sure Alex couldn't remake it pretty... but why not just make a new mech?

I want the Anvil because I'd paint it red and pretend it's the Guncannon from the original Gundam.

But I'd really rather they stick to mechs in the TROs, letting Alex be enshrined in BT lore with his Roughneck is one thing but please nothing beyond that.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Moonlight Grimoire, on 08 December 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

Champion is a viable mech and one I would love to get my hands on, yes the dragon can in theory run it's loadouts but I want my 60 ton Cicada-Locust mech.

+1

I'm with you, we need a Champion.

[Steinar Bergstol]

Karl Streiger, on 08 December 2016 - 11:22 PM, said:

Nah - the DragonFire is ugly as hell with its scrotch gun. IS finally need a real fast heavy (Quickdraw and Dragons are fat mediums): Falconer, Hercules, Thunder, Daikyu, Flashman

the cerb only as alternative for the annihilator - but i really want to see those tears

Daikyu! Daikyus for everyone! You get a Daikyu and you get a Daikyu and you get a Daikyu!

How can anyone not love this thing? It's one of the post-3050 mechs I have the biggest soft spot for.

[FLG 01]

Karl Streiger, on 08 December 2016 - 11:22 PM, said:

Nah - the DragonFire is ugly as hell with its scrotch gun. IS finally need a real fast heavy (Quickdraw and Dragons are fat mediums): Falconer, Hercules, Thunder, Daikyu, Flashman

You forgot the best: the Excalibur:

[Karl Streiger]

For the Excalibur we need our CB LURM back - a sweet combination - the plane and the hammer
But with people thinking LRM should be good in killing stuff on their own - I would not want to see a Tripple LURM 15 Excalibur.

Oh granted don't want to see a 4 Lpl in torso falconer either

[MischiefSC]

TheArisen, on 09 December 2016 - 02:04 AM, said:

I want the Anvil because I'd paint it red and pretend it's the Guncannon from the original Gundam.

But I'd really rather they stick to mechs in the TROs, letting Alex be enshrined in BT lore with his Roughneck is one thing but please nothing beyond that.

I dunno. No, I don't want PGI going full on mech factory but I'd take his creations on a case by case basis.

Again, more mechs added to the IS in the 3025-3060 timeframe is a good thing. Especially if they're NOT power creep. There's no difference in Alex creating a mech and Catalyst creating a new mech - aside from Alex is overall a better artist.

[Gas Guzzler]

Navid A1, on 08 December 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

Yaaasss!

[TheArisen]

MischiefSC, on 09 December 2016 - 09:09 AM, said:

I dunno. No, I don't want PGI going full on mech factory but I'd take his creations on a case by case basis.

Again, more mechs added to the IS in the 3025-3060 timeframe is a good thing. Especially if they're NOT power creep. There's no difference in Alex creating a mech and Catalyst creating a new mech - aside from Alex is overall a better artist.

Fair enough but there are still a fair number of mechs people want that are in the TROs now. I'd examine PGI made mechs case by case but I don't see a need for them.

[zagibu]

Davers, on 08 December 2016 - 05:27 PM, said:

Simple answer, no. At least for many tonnage levels

At this point players are really just buying new skins. Look at the Dervish- what does it bring that Griffins, Shadowhawks and Kintaros can't? With the new skill tree we can't even hope that it gets unique quirks.

Are there some mechs that would add variety at some tonnage levels? Sure, the 20, 25, and 30 could use more variety. But even then they are not adding to the game as much as filling out player's art collections.

Actually the Champion offers something that we don't have a lot of yet, and that is two shield arms.

[Karl Streiger]

Rather take the Koshei - does look ugly as hell but a fast 65t with good engine cap and a AC20 - questions?

[Davers]

zagibu, on 09 December 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

Actually the Champion offers something that we don't have a lot of yet, and that is two shield arms.

There are plenty of mechs that use only torso weaponry.

[Y E O N N E]

zagibu, on 09 December 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

Actually the Champion offers something that we don't have a lot of yet, and that is two shield arms.

Have you seen what most people are running on the Warhammer? Or most Thunderbolts? Or the Mauler? Atlas?

Shield arms are nothing new or exciting.