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[Bishop Steiner]

Only played a handful of matches, didn't do the pain I did when they first were released, but seemed able to putting out some pain, with the old Mlasers and MGs. (Considering trying it stock to, stunlock crit seeking with flamers and MGs)

But.. a handful of QP honestly... tells you a whole lot of nothing (did enjoy killing all 3 of the Opfor's MAD-IICs one match, though... 2 Scorches. Tasty.)

Also...any word on the Arrow? Thinking about dusting off my old 5MG/LB-10X, 3x ML build.

(Also, I'm well aware we have 6-9 MG clan mechs out there... but... I don't care... I like the Ember)

[Monkey Lover]

Its still to big and legs fall off it. Machinegun buff didn't fix this

I removed mine out of the cw deck for the oxide after few games.

[Bishop Steiner]

Monkey Lover, on 13 December 2016 - 10:20 PM, said:

Its still to big and legs fall off it. Machinegun buff didn't fix this

I removed mine out of the cw deck for the oxide after few games.

haven't been legged yet...but the patch is still young! (My MAD-IIC on the other hand, legged like...every match)

[Glaive-]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 December 2016 - 10:23 PM, said:

(My MAD-IIC on the other hand, legged like...every match)

Huh really?
I haven't had trouble with getting legged all night, and I've been only using my MAD-IICs in QP.

Maybe T3 players are too potato to aim for legs?

[Bishop Steiner]

armyunit, on 13 December 2016 - 10:31 PM, said:

Huh really?
I haven't had trouble with getting legged all night, and I've been only using my MAD-IICs in QP.

Maybe T3 players are too potato to aim for legs?

aiming is a tier 2 and up strategy, I think.... (but also been getting potato teams that jsut roost and get Light flanked... lights like legs.... ....so could be artificially inflated)

[El Bandito]

Not even close.

[Y E O N N E]

Arrow is not really different than pre-patch. Reducing the MG RoF quirk and subbing in the global MG damage buff results in a wash for performance. The big deal is the reduced cone of fire. Personally, I was making my MG Arrow work just fine pre-patch, but your mileage may vary.

[627]

The ember does hurt now with its MGs... not like back in the day when we had good MGs for... 5 days or so but at least it is more than noisy distraction now. Still, it is rather big and very visible, no way to sneak around in that thing.

[Snowbluff]

Yeonne Greene, on 13 December 2016 - 11:34 PM, said:

Arrow is not really different than pre-patch. Reducing the MG RoF quirk and subbing in the global MG damage buff results in a wash for performance. The big deal is the reduced cone of fire. Personally, I was making my MG Arrow work just fine pre-patch, but your mileage may vary.

Ten minutes before the patch, I got 3 kills with my arrow in a single match. XD

[Bishop Steiner]

627, on 13 December 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

The ember does hurt now with its MGs... not like back in the day when we had good MGs for... 5 days or so but at least it is more than noisy distraction now. Still, it is rather big and very visible, no way to sneak around in that thing.

that's fine by me. It's 35 tons..not exactly a ninja.... I just am having fun making "DoA" mech work.....

[Y E O N N E]

Snowbluff, on 13 December 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

Ten minutes before the patch, I got 3 kills with my arrow in a single match. XD

Almost every time I drop in my Arrow, it's a 600+ damage game with 3-4 kills. That's why I have 664 matches in the darn thing; it's always rewarding!

[Requiemking]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 December 2016 - 11:41 PM, said:

that's fine by me. It's 35 tons..not exactly a ninja.... I just am having fun making "DoA" mech work.....

It used to be good. Then it was fair. Then the rescale screwed it and every other 30+ ton Light mech in game(other than the Cheetah).

[WrathOfDeadguy]

Dunno about the Ember... didn't have mine for that long before I decided Firestarters just weren't my thing.

My SDR-5K, however, was doing pretty well tonight. Had a couple of 400+, 3 kill games with it, and I put a lot of that down to MGs being slightly less useless for a change (which is good, because I couldn't buy a good round in either of my other Spiders- lots of derp, several sub-100 games, sad all around).

So... overall, I feel like post-patch MGs are almost worth the tonnage. They're still a bit terrible for the required facetime, but at least they do more than tickle now.

[Davegt27]

I just bought some FS9s to go along with the ember
I put an AC2 on the Ember lol seems more fun that way

the other two FS9s I put ERPPCs on lol (for the fun factor)

[MischiefSC]

King Crab.

6x MGs.

2 LPLs

2x SRM6A

STD 350

ammo.

DHS.

DO EET.

[Greyboots]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 December 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

Only played a handful of matches, didn't do the pain I did when they first were released, but seemed able to putting out some pain, with the old Mlasers and MGs. (Considering trying it stock to, stunlock crit seeking with flamers and MGs)

But.. a handful of QP honestly... tells you a whole lot of nothing (did enjoy killing all 3 of the Opfor's MAD-IICs one match, though... 2 Scorches. Tasty.)

Also...any word on the Arrow? Thinking about dusting off my old 5MG/LB-10X, 3x ML build.

(Also, I'm well aware we have 6-9 MG clan mechs out there... but... I don't care... I like the Ember)

Honestly speaking I would rate it as "no noticable difference" for both most of the time. It's not enough to draw me back to playing either of them after giving both of them decent trial runs (5-8 matches). There are far superior choices for both the Blackjack and Firestarter that mean there's little to no difference in earnings in the long run to compensate for the inferior performance.

Both still feel to be solidly tier 5-4 (and possibly 3) mech choices.

Edited by Greyboots, 14 December 2016 - 01:07 AM.

[kesmai]

No.

[jss78]

MischiefSC, on 14 December 2016 - 12:46 AM, said:

King Crab.
6x MGs.
2 LPLs
2x SRM6A
STD 350
ammo.
DHS.

DO EET.

I am planning to do just this, as soon as the skill tree lands (because I don't feel like levelling up three KGC's).

Also, if PGI doesn't insta-nerf MG's, I'll reward them by dropping real € on the Ember.

[Wintersdark]

I heard the Arrow didn't lose its mg RoF perks? It was supposed to but didn't?

The Nova-S kept it's 10% RoF with set of 8, so I was monkeying around with it, 4mpl, 4mg. Was surprisingly nasty.

As to the marauder IIC... My 2lbx20/4srm6 Scorch has been a blast to play when I get get some brawly good times going on.

Still haven't had a MAD legged.... But said scorch tends to discourage lights. 88 damage bursts at fairly low heat makes them reconsider their life choices.

[ShiftySWP and the Pleated Pants]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 December 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

Only played a handful of matches, didn't do the pain I did when they first were released, but seemed able to putting out some pain, with the old Mlasers and MGs. (Considering trying it stock to, stunlock crit seeking with flamers and MGs)

But.. a handful of QP honestly... tells you a whole lot of nothing (did enjoy killing all 3 of the Opfor's MAD-IICs one match, though... 2 Scorches. Tasty.)

Also...any word on the Arrow? Thinking about dusting off my old 5MG/LB-10X, 3x ML build.

(Also, I'm well aware we have 6-9 MG clan mechs out there... but... I don't care... I like the Ember)

4MG, 2SPL, 2Flamer.... I've been having tons of fun. I can now focus on those open spots.... backs melt fast.

Been catching some rage for stun locking folks and killing them... so I guess (for me) Ember is back in play!

Forgot about Arrow... gotta try that guy again.