Pony Neutral Thread
#41
Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:28 AM
that is all.
#42
Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:07 AM
#43
Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:20 PM
#44
Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:30 AM
This goes for all [topic]s.
And for ponys... they're equestrian animals that eat grass. Nothing more, nothing less.
#46
Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:59 PM
Edited by Watchit, 23 July 2012 - 09:59 PM.
#47
Posted 28 July 2012 - 03:55 PM
#52
Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:30 AM
Magnificent *******, on 19 July 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:
But By creating Pony Switzerland are you not in fact advocating a Pro-Pony stance?
#54
Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:37 AM
#55
Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:46 AM
Slab Squathrust, on 19 July 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:
In addition to said pony, I propose the box contains a single atom of a radioactive isotope. There is a Geiger counter attached to a mechanism with a hammer and a vial of poison. Spontaneous decay of the atom triggers the activation of the mechanism and the subsequent death of the pony. At the time of sealing the box, the pony was alive, however some time has passed. Is the pony currently alive or dead?
so is this schrodinger's pony now????
both there and not there at the same time???
Edited by Telecleez, 29 July 2012 - 01:46 AM.
#56
Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:36 AM
Once you open the box, the entanglement breaks and the distribution of probabilitys for each of the states changes to 100% for one and to 0% for the other.
If one knew the wave-function of the pony, one even could calculate the probability amplitude of the location of the Pony INSIDE the box or its impulse. But never both, because of something called the uncertianity principle. Google it, it will be mathematical
If we measured atoms even smaller particles, we shoot these particles with even smaller particles or beams waves (photons) to gain information by the reflected or absorbed beamparts (spectroscopy).During this process, the measuring alters the system by depositing energy in terms of heat, impulse or mass in the observed object. The System REACTS to the measurement.
And the information given by the measurement does not completely show the information that existed BEFORE the measurement (which interested us), but to a certain extend the information we added/altered.
Explained in term of macroscopic objects (scale adepted): The observed system is a pony. The measuring method is the counting of reflected and the loss of kinetic energy of transmitted 7,65mm-bullets. I f we want measure the location of pony or its impulse, we can only do one at a time, because the measuring process alters the system and there is uncertainity in terms of one observable when measuring the other. The System reacts in terms of changing its parameters and the information we gain is not exactly the information that existed before the measurement.
This experiment should be done outside only and a barbecue should have been prepared in beforehand. Small children should not pull the trigger without proper instructionby adults, because the recoil of a cal. 7,65mm is to reason with and the device should therefore be mounted tightly to prevent injuries..
Back to the Box-Problem:
So, matter of speaking, YOU have either killed the pony by operning the box, in which case I know to make perfectly tasty horse burgers out of them. Or YOU have brought the pony to live, in which case I assume you are a female horse and should not use this thread, if your existance is not totally ignored by yourself. If it is so, i would recommend to participate in the previously called experiment. Burgers, man.....burgers.
-->The 50 cents of a crazy chemist.
Edited by BigLuigi, 29 July 2012 - 02:45 AM.
#57
Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:42 AM
BigLuigi, on 29 July 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:
Except for the fact that if you read the OP we're clearly NOT discussing Schrodinger's Pony. This isn't a matter of a pony that is living or dead but a question of whether there is a pony in the box at all. And yet even that is not the point as the intended question is whether or not the possibility of a pony being in the box evokes any emotional reaction, positive or negative, within the observer of said box. If so then this is not the thread for that individual.
#58
Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:10 PM
#59
Posted 29 July 2012 - 07:06 PM
The possibility of the existance of one, none,or a dead pony in the box is seen from the same point.
The feelings of many people would be different for each of this cases.
And for the possibility there is NO ppony in the box...well,open it! I would dare to say one has tricked us in talking about not existant ponys OR that you are (third assumption) a magician IF it was there before opening and therefore could like...well....bring the urbie to MWO!Or money into my pocket, which would be equivalentely good. Or let it rain steak and bacon.All ...this...amazing...BACON! And ponys woldn`t even be mentioned.
Otherwise I did never tell anything about my feelings towards the pony, so I proved to be really neutral and uncaring towards it. Totally ignoring any resemblence to the thing talking about was the general idea I thought
The only feeling I really had was...hunger! But that would have been likewise if there had been a cow, a chicken or a chihuahua in the box.or even if it had not been,as this point is uncertain.
And, hell yeah, I like project chaos too!And did I mention barbecue already? Always along the motto "eat it as long as its still dead!"
Edited by BigLuigi, 29 July 2012 - 07:16 PM.
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