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[aresfiend]

PewPew, on 19 July 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

I've been writing out pretty in-depth responses... You haven't said anything other than "That's flat out wrong".

Please see

Notice that I never quoted that, what I said was that you were flat out wrong saying:

PewPew, on 19 July 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

This is the problem with bronies. They don't understand or care enough about the fact that society actually cares about things like appearance or perception.

Which you were. Personally, only a handful of my closest friends even have the slightest idea that I'm a brony. I don't own any of the toys, I don't wear clothes or costumes symbolizing it. You'll usually find me wearing Planet Eclipse/Empire/Angel branded clothing than anything pony related. I don't talk in the slang, nobody would even have a reason to guess at me being a brony unless they knew beforehand.

Some bronies will walk around with the toys in the pockets dressed in a costume, I usually feel that those bronies probably should see a thereapist because that's just ******* werid.

EDIT: The reason I use myself as an example is because there are more bronies like me than there are that will rub it in everybody's face. They may not dress in brand apparel the same or hang out with the same types of people, but all you have to do is cut and paste to get the majority of the fanbase.

Edited by aresfiend, 19 July 2012 - 02:59 PM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

PewPew, on 19 July 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Lots of people are into BDSM, but you hardly see them injecting it into every conversation or wearing ball-gags in public.

This is the entire problem. People who dislike bronies/furries are equating it to some kind of fetish. And while there ARE some people who treat those genres as some kind of fetish, it gives a bad rap to the rest. These communities are not a bunch of pervs, just a rather odd corner of the fanboy world.

Of course, i think the ponies are odder than most, but who am I to judge? I'm still hooked on 80's cartoons myself, even some of the stupid ones.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 19 July 2012 - 03:00 PM.

[PewPew]

Interests are interest. I'm an avid mechwarrior fan, but I don't wear robot suits when I go out in public. I'm an avid Adventure Time fan, but I don't wear a white hat everywhere I go or carry a yellow dog. The only reason people assume it's fetishised is because bronies have the tendency to take it there. Not in a sexual manner, but to an extreme.

aresfiend, read my response to when you said I was wrong. It's not about whether or not bronies are all actually like that. It's the perception of them shaped by the many, most visible/present bronies. The fact that most bronies in this discussion have not yet accepted or understood that is just testament to the fact.

[Skadi]

PewPew, on 19 July 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Interests are interest. I'm an avid mechwarrior fan, but I don't wear robot suits when I go out in public. I'm an avid Adventure Time fan, but I don't wear a white hat everywhere I go or carry a yellow dog. The only reason people assume it's fetishised is because bronies have the tendency to take it there. Not in a sexual manner, but to an extreme.

aresfiend, read my response to when you said I was wrong. It's not about whether or not bronies are all actually like that. It's the perception of them shaped by the many, most visible/present bronies. The fact that most bronies in this discussion have not yet accepted or understood that is just testament to the fact.

waaaaaait... other people dont walk their yellow dog in a giant robot with a white hat?

[Johndar]

What rustles my jimmies is that the bronys inject their love of ponies into everything. Their message is to love and tolerate but when you're in peoples faces its makes it difficult to tolerate. kinda like this method.

[Suprentus]

I'd imagine the hate on bronies and furries, at least here, is that we don't want to put up with the flamboyance of it in a badass mech game. It's really kind of a buzzkill. I've got nothing against bronies and furries. But if you really want to indulge in it, why not do so in a game that can cater to it, like second life or something? I think I saw some screencaps of furries in that once. Here, I want mechs, lasers, and other cool ****.

[wanderer]

This is true. For every hobby, there are the people who enjoy it in a sane manner- and then there's always That Guy.

You know who he/she is. They're the ones who take it a step over the line of good taste, then dance around flinging their actions around like a monkey flinging it's feces for attention, until they find another monkey doing the same thing and they form their little gang.

Trekker vs. Trekkie. Guy who liked watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs. guy who has an anthro RealDoll sitting on his couch with questionable stains. Couple who likes watching MLP together vs. couple who dresses up in a Rarity/Spike set of costumes to re-enact their slashfics. Enjoyment vs. obsession. There is a Line of Squick. All fanbases have two sides- the ones who do cross it, and the ones who don't. Yes, even Battletech. But definitely furries and bronies too.

[Vyviel]

I think its because for some strange reason Bronies and Furries feel the need to create threads on every game forum in the world.

Like they are loud and proud and need to come out of the closet everywhere and force other people to like it too =P

You dont see people creating threads for other hobbies on unrelated forums like the hardcore train collectors thread on here.

[aresfiend]

Suprentus, on 19 July 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

I'd imagine the hate on bronies and furries, at least here, is that we don't want to put up with the flamboyance of it in a badass mech game. It's really kind of a buzzkill. I've got nothing against bronies and furries. But if you really want to indulge in it, why not do so in a game that can cater to it, like second life or something? I think I saw some screencaps of furries in that once. Here, I want mechs, lasers, and other cool ****.

Bro, I wasn't talking about mechs. I thought I'd put it here so I wouldn't get a bunch of pre-pubescent kids who don't know grammar and sit around playing CoD all day to come in and just say one horridly spelled word.

[Skadi]

Suprentus, on 19 July 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

I'd imagine the hate on bronies and furries, at least here, is that we don't want to put up with the flamboyance of it in a badass mech game. It's really kind of a buzzkill. I've got nothing against bronies and furries. But if you really want to indulge in it, why not do so in a game that can cater to it, like second life or something? I think I saw some screencaps of furries in that once. Here, I want mechs, lasers, and other cool ****.

This. i have nothing against bronys/furrys, if they like that stuff and wanna talk about it to people that share their interests go ahead, but when they get in my face about it or try to derail my threads with ponys, thats when i become a jackass (please note im not saying all bronys are like this, they arnt) also if i see a mech colored like a pony (ive seen enough of their memes to know what their colors are...) i will go for you!

[ScrapIron Prime]

Vyviel, on 19 July 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

I think its because for some strange reason Bronies and Furries feel the need to create threads on every game forum in the world.

Like they are loud and proud and need to come out of the closet everywhere and force other people to like it too =P

You dont see people creating threads for other hobbies on unrelated forums like the hardcore train collectors thread on here.

You realize that you're also describing the World Of Tanks threads too, right?

[Damion Wolf]

It was interesting hearing some sensible replies for a change. I still cringe at the idea that this question was asked in a straight face.

Seeing as it's gotten late, I'll just leave you gentlemen with a question of my own; how do you convince somebody that they have a problem when they believe everybody else has the problem and they're fine? Hitler probably thought his views were generally decent, too.

And after invoking yet another meme, I'll start the countdown to when Garth shows up.

Good luck with your answers, Aresfiend. And good luck helping him see the light, everybody else.

[Blackjack 6]

I don't know if trolling or for real. I find it rather amusing how the original poster asks this question as if he really doesn't already know the answer. It also strikes me as funny how he tries to assume the moral high ground in every answer. (Paraphrased) "I may be a Brony, but you play video games." Really? That's the best response that you have? Mechwarrior Online is a game universe that deals with military tactics and strategy. You know, a traditional masculine role It's not about flying a pink pony around the battlefield shooting rainbows out of its tuckus. If you were gay, okay, I get it the whole feminine thing. If you're not, then perhaps you should consider coming out. It's not 1956, it's okay, nobody really cares anymore. If you're not closeted, then you just have to understand that watching a cartoon made for little girls is going to get you mocked. Exception: You have a little girl and she loves it and it helps to bring a closer bond between a father and his daughter, like taking your son to a baseball game.Mostly, because you're in a weird arrested development stage that you really need to get out of. Let's put it in a way you may better understand. What would you think of a child day care center worker that wore a Pedo Bear sticker and just said he just loves Japanese Anime? No, I'm not saying you're a pedophile, so let's not try to distract from the overall point, But here's the elephant in the room. Bronies have something wrong with them. I'm talking "Show me on the doll where daddy touched you" wrong things. If you can't see that clear as day, then no one can help you. You know why you watch it. You know why you're being mocked. Just don't try to come on here and act like everyone else is weird. You know, the old "I'm not crazy, YOU'RE crazy." spiel. If Bronies just can't admit that they are just another dysfunctional aspect of the newer generation of cultural "snowflakes". Just like like Tweeners. You know, grown men that get jobs (or not) and STILL live with their parents until their 56. And let me steal another cookie from you. Just because I disagree with your "hobby" doesn't make me a homophobic, puppy beating, racist, meanie who wants to pop the balloons at a 24 year olds' birthday party. And let's face it. Don't try to convince me that you still don't have a hundred My Little Pony "Happy Birthday" balloons at your party. In closing, please read my opening line. Elvis has left the building.

[wanderer]

Vyviel, on 19 July 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

I think its because for some strange reason Bronies and Furries feel the need to create threads on every game forum in the world.

Like they are loud and proud and need to come out of the closet everywhere and force other people to like it too =P

You dont see people creating threads for other hobbies on unrelated forums like the hardcore train collectors thread on here.

It's a standard of social pressure on any group. The greater the negative pressure from the outside community, the more the pressured group feels a need to express itself in any point at which it can find a niche to do so within the range of legality- or in the case of more immoral groups, underground. This can lead to finding them in places that might not make sense....say, an MWO forum?

In short, the more you hate the bronies and furries, the higher the odds such threads for their purposes will not only spring up, but be sustained in perpetuity. Otherwise, they tend to simply maintain themselves at a level next to un-noticeable- after all, there's one "Pony Thread" amidst thousands of others on the board, yet like the Goon threads of late, they seem to be lightning rods for the foolish to push them into overdrive, in part by generating the precise negative pressure that causes them to do so.

[Skadi]

Blackjack 6, on 19 July 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

I don't know if trolling or for real. I find it rather amusing how the original poster asks this question as if he really doesn't already know the answer. It also strikes me as funny how he tries to assume the moral high ground in every answer. (Paraphrased) "I may be a Brony, but you play video games." Really? That's the best response that you have? Mechwarrior Online is a game universe that deals with military tactics and strategy. You know, a traditional masculine role It's not about flying a pink pony around the battlefield shooting rainbows out of its tuckus. If you were gay, okay, I get it the whole feminine thing. If you're not, then perhaps you should consider coming out. It's not 1956, it's okay, nobody really cares anymore. If you're not closeted, then you just have to understand that watching a cartoon made for little girls is going to get you mocked. Exception: You have a little girl and she loves it and it helps to bring a closer bond between a father and his daughter, like taking your son to a baseball game.Mostly, because you're in a weird arrested development stage that you really need to get out of. Let's put it in a way you may better understand. What would you think of a child day care center worker that wore a Pedo Bear sticker and just said he just loves Japanese Anime? No, I'm not saying you're a pedophile, so let's not try to distract from the overall point, But here's the elephant in the room. Bronies have something wrong with them. I'm talking "Show me on the doll where daddy touched you" wrong things. If you can't see that clear as day, then no one can help you. You know why you watch it. You know why you're being mocked. Just don't try to come on here and act like everyone else is weird. You know, the old "I'm not crazy, YOU'RE crazy." spiel. If Bronies just can't admit that they are just another dysfunctional aspect of the newer generation of cultural "snowflakes". Just like like Tweeners. You know, grown men that get jobs (or not) and STILL live with their parents until their 56. And let me steal another cookie from you. Just because I disagree with your "hobby" doesn't make me a homophobic, puppy beating, racist, meanie who wants to pop the balloons at a 24 year olds' birthday party. And let's face it. Don't try to convince me that you still don't have a hundred My Little Pony "Happy Birthday" balloons at your party. In closing, please read my opening line. Elvis has left the building.

first post is a wall of text = bad, disencourages people from reading it :x

[PewPew]

Wall of text. Did not read. Please locate your nearest enter and tab keys.

[aresfiend]

Damion Wolf, on 19 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

It was interesting hearing some sensible replies for a change. I still cringe at the idea that this question was asked in a straight face.

Seeing as it's gotten late, I'll just leave you gentlemen with a question of my own; how do you convince somebody that they have a problem when they believe everybody else has the problem and they're fine? Hitler probably thought his views were generally decent, too.

One thing to note, many bronies do have problems. While watching the show isn't their problem, it does help other problems (I am guilty of this). I figure that the issues don't arise with them actually watching and admitting to doing so, but the select few that don't really like the show but the attention they get so they go overboard and rub it in peoples faces. They are the ones ruining it for everybody else and causing the perception of "He's a brony so he must have problems with society".

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Good luck with your answers, Aresfiend. And good luck helping him see the light, everybody else.

Aaaand that's where you had to be a dick... didn't you.... Well, whatever. Ignorant people will be ignorant.

[Catamount]

Skadi, on 19 July 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

This. i have nothing against bronys/furrys, if they like that stuff and wanna talk about it to people that share their interests go ahead, but when they get in my face about it or try to derail my threads with ponys, thats when i become a jackass (please note im not saying all bronys are like this, they arnt) also if i see a mech colored like a pony (ive seen enough of their memes to know what their colors are...) i will go for you!

If people are derailing other threads with off-topic posts, then obviously people are going to get annoyed, but people do that here with posts that range from political diatribes to internet memes. I don't see why the brony/furry crowd get such hate. From what I saw, until a bunch of instigators decided to go around and judgmentally spew vitriol, both groups seemed more or less content to keep to their own threads, and certainly had no more propensity to notably derail unrelated discussions than those trying to do the same thing with any other of a myriad of topics.

I guess this is the part I don't understand here. It's not like these people were besieging the forums

ScrapIron Prime, on 19 July 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

You realize that you're also describing the World Of Tanks threads too, right?

And Star Trek threads, and Star Wars threads, and COD threads, and political threads, and religious threads, and computer hardware threads, and cake vs pie threads and... yeah, this would go on for awhile

Edited by Catamount, 19 July 2012 - 03:14 PM.

[aresfiend]

Blackjack 6, on 19 July 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

(Paraphrased) "I may be a Brony, but you play video games."

Paraphrased and combined from two different people.

I stopped reading for the same reason I stop reading when somebody says Germany and Nuremberg in the same sentence as though they are different countries.

[PewPew]

Sorry, I'm pretty sure when people inject politics or unfitting memes, they get told to ****. When it happens to bronies, they get self righteous and angry about it like you are now. People are mean on the internet. Get over it. It's not like you're fighting for gay rights or something.