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[CK16]

How do you guys and gals predict the next few mech packs will perform and how do you forsee most likely options we will get in the next year? Give your thoughts?

- Bushwacker; decent medium, I do not think it will be best IS medium but will be something nice and imo will be good against Stormcrows and Hunchback IIC's. Be a decent mid range and brawler my idea.

-Supernova; I feel it won't be that good at much. Skill tree might save it and make it a good long range pocker with its ER Large Lasers. It's a one trick Poney though I feel. Be in same tier as Direwolf, and Highlander IIC.

-Assassin; few varriants will be good at hit and run brawling. Decent but kinda niche 40 tonner. P.s.forgot it's really fast....

-Roughneck; no idea honestly. It's a 65 tonner with lots of ballistics.


Future most likely options IMO
-Firemoth; Clans first 20 tonner, super fast, can carry decent loadouts for a 20 tonner and has access to ECM, very very fast to top it off.

-Firefalcon; A much better option for 25 tons to the Mist Lynx.

- Piranha; dakakak...crap out of ammo 20 tonner

-Cougar; Slower Adder 2.0, but brings alot more guns! (Super mini pocket heavy)

-Pouncer; 40 ton Adder now with JJ's

- Nova Cat; Best 70 ton omni. It can do everything and anything you want and need!

-Mad Cat Mk II; Will be a solid mech, first 2 varriants do well in ballistics with either energy or missile backups/combos (2 can do what the Scorch can do but with 5 more tons and has energy in torso's instead).

-Blood Asp;Meta Overlord!

-Turkina; lighter Direwolf; just as slow...has JJ's though(could get unique skill tree though?)

-Kingfisher; Standard engined Omni assault and had ECM...kinda unique.

Edited by CK16, 19 December 2016 - 08:52 AM.

[Spheroid]

You neglected the Warhammer IIC and Rifleman IIC.

The Rifleman has huge meta implications owing to the high mounts

[CK16]

Spheroid, on 19 December 2016 - 08:53 AM, said:

You neglected the Warhammer IIC and Rifleman IIC.

The Rifleman has huge meta implications owing to the high mounts

I only had so much room. I know of it. Keep in mind though the Rifleman IIC does not have a great engine cap really.

[El Bandito]

Spheroid, on 19 December 2016 - 08:53 AM, said:

You neglected the Warhammer IIC and Rifleman IIC.

The Rifleman has huge meta implications owing to the high mounts

Warhammer IIC is also gonna be good since it has plenty of high mounts as well. Clans will finally get a meta 80 tonner. Add the possibility of Piranha, and Bane getting released, 2017 is looking good for the Clanners--just like the previous years.

Edited by El Bandito, 19 December 2016 - 08:59 AM.

[CK16]

El Bandito, on 19 December 2016 - 08:55 AM, said:

Warhammer IIC is also gonna be good since it has plenty of high mounts as well. Add the possibility of Piranha, or Bane getting released, 2017 is looking good for the Clanners--just like 2014, 2015, and 2016.

What IS didn't get any love? Unseens released with much praise (all but Archer but hey...UNSEEN's!) Cyclops came in well, considering many were nervous about how it would perform. Bushwacker has been asked about for ages and is finally coming in. Think alot of IS Mechwarriors were pleased with the past years as well.

[Kasumi Sumika]

IS should have Wasp, Stinger, Valkyrie, Long Bow and then Crusader so it's completed Macross Unseen.

[El Bandito]

CK16, on 19 December 2016 - 09:00 AM, said:

What IS didn't get any love? Unseens released with much praise (all but Archer but hey...UNSEEN's!) Cyclops came in well, considering many were nervous about how it would perform. Bushwacker has been asked about for ages and is finally coming in. Think alot of IS Mechwarriors were pleased with the past years as well.

I'm talking performance-wise. Warhammer-IIC will likely become the best 80 ton mech. Rifleman-IIC is gonna be far more effective than its 60 ton IS brother. Piranha will literally tear through armor with ease, and Bane? LOL!

Edited by El Bandito, 19 December 2016 - 09:08 AM.

[Beaching Betty]

Mmmmm... http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Annihilator

Edited by Beaching Betty, 19 December 2016 - 09:23 AM.

[Metus regem]

El Bandito, on 19 December 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

I'm talking performance-wise. Warhammer-IIC will likely become the best 80 ton mech. Rifleman-IIC is gonna be far more effective than its 60 ton IS brother. Piranha will literally tear through armor with ease, and Bane? LOL!

I'd say that the Phoenix Hawk IIC could be good as well... 400 series engine cap... the base model mounts two UAC/10's and 2 MG's...

Weapons and Equipment:


Built around the Type 79 400 XL Engine mounted on an Endo Steel skeleton fitted with five Jump Jets, the Phoenix Hawk IIC features as close as possible ground speed and agility to the original Phoenix Hawk as can be reasonably achieved on an 80-ton assault 'Mech, making it an effective fast interdiction unit. Ten and half tons of Ferro-Fibrous armor provide eighty-one percent of the maximum possible protection at its weight class, while ten Double Heat Sinks are sufficient for weapons array.

The main armament of the Phoenix Hawk IIC is the paired Ultra Autocannon/10s, each of which has a three-ton ammunition bin it can draw on. Both cannons are mounted in twin pods on either side of torso to the rear, a feature allowing technicians easy access to the weapons and reducing maintenance time both at base or in the field. A pair of Machine Guns provide extra firepower that is most useful against unarmored infantry. Despite the Clans disdain for it, the 'Mech's weaponless arm are almost ideal for physical combat




Variants:

• Phoenix Hawk IIC 2
  
  Developed in 2852, this variant transforms the Phoenix Hawk IIC into a missile boat. It removes all the weapons and a ton of armor to mount four LRM-20s and eight tons of ammunition.

• Phoenix Hawk IIC 3

First appearing in 3062, the IIC 3 was designed by Clan Steel Viper following their ejection from the Inner Sphere and is produced for them by Clan Diamond Shark. Based upon the original, the IIC 3 makes use of two Heavy Large Lasers, a Medium Pulse Laser, and two Small Pulse Lasers; all of which are linked to a Targeting Computer. Twenty-two double heat sinks keep all the heat generated by the weapons under control.

• Phoenix Hawk IIC 7

First appearing in 3062, the IIC 3 was designed by Clan Steel Viper following their ejection from the Inner Sphere and is produced for them by Clan Diamond Shark. Based upon the original, the IIC 3 makes use of two Heavy Large Lasers, a Medium Pulse Laser, and two Small Pulse Lasers; all of which are linked to a Targeting Computer. Twenty-two double heat sinks keep all the heat generated by the weapons under control. First built in 3078, this version has a lower top speed (64km/h) from Type 81 320-rated XL Engine, but uses Improved Jump Jets to keep mobility. It carries a pair of Type KOV LB 10-X ACs in the torso, supplemented by twin Mk 3 ER Medium Lasers and Series-4 Streak SRM-4s. Clan Diamond Shark sells this variant to any interested buyer, including Inner Sphere powers, proving increasingly popular among mercenary units.

Then PGI versions as needed.

http://www.sarna.net...hoenix_Hawk_IIC

Edited by Metus regem, 19 December 2016 - 09:21 AM.

[CK16]

Yea I still can not get on the Phoenixhawk IIC. Really I would be happy to see only 2 more IIc's, those being the Warhammer IIC and Rifleman IIC...maybe a distant third being the Locust IIC...other then that I would prefer we do not get a ton of IIC mechs honestly.

[RestosIII]

CK16, on 19 December 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

Yea I still can not get on the Phoenixhawk IIC. Really I would be happy to see only 2 more IIc's, those being the Warhammer IIC and Rifleman IIC...maybe a distant third being the Locust IIC...other then that I would prefer we do not get a ton of IIC mechs honestly.

But the Phoenix Hawk IIC was built by CDS, and is just anime!

[CK16]

RestosIII, on 19 December 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

But the Phoenix Hawk IIC was built by CDS, and is just anime!

No...all those jazz hand mechs...no...please....no

[Alan Davion]

CK16, on 19 December 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

-Firemoth; Clans first 20 tonner, super fast, can carry decent loadouts for a 20 tonner and has access to ECM, very very fast to top it off.

Never gonna happen.

Game engine can't handle speeds over, what was it, like 170-something km/h? 173 km/h I think was the absolute limit the game can handle?

Firemoth has a normal top speed of 162 km/h, and a MASC enhanced top speed of 216 km/h.

So unless they take away the MASC they'll never add the Firemoth, which of course would be the height of stupidity because a Firemoth without MASC speed is just not worth having in game at all.

[RoadblockXL]

Kind of hard to tell what will be good and what wont be until we know more about the changes to the skill tree. IS mechs in particular (Bushwacker, Roughneck) could be really good or not based on what quirks/skills they're capable of having.

[Imperius]

It won't be the mech you want this year you get to rally for the MK II I've said all I plan to say.

[Gas Guzzler]

I would like an IS assault that isn't a piece of trash (King Crab) that can do Dual Gauss, Dual PPC without having Gauss rifles in the side torsos. I don't think that is too much to ask. A good ER PPC/Gauss heavy platform would be nice as well.

[Metus regem]

CK16, on 19 December 2016 - 09:39 AM, said:

No...all those jazz hand mechs...no...please....no

Sadly CK about half of the orignal TRO 3025 mechs came from one anime or another.... That being said, they have done some impressive rework on some of them...

Unseen Battlemaster:


Reseen Battlemaster:



MWO Battlemaster:

[CK16]

Gas Guzzler, on 19 December 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

I would like an IS assault that isn't a piece of trash (King Crab) that can do Dual Gauss, Dual PPC without having Gauss rifles in the side torsos. I don't think that is too much to ask. A good ER PPC/Gauss heavy platform would be nice as well.

Nightstar?

[CK16]

Metus regem, on 19 December 2016 - 10:31 AM, said:

Sadly CK about half of the orignal TRO 3025 mechs came from one anime or another.... That being said, they have done some impressive rework on some of them...

Unseen Battlemaster:


Reseen Battlemaster:



MWO Battlemaster:

Although true, I enjoy that this game is not an anime mecha game. I won't say the genre sucks, but mechwarrior games have never felt like a Gundam Wing reskinned game if you catch my drift.

[RestosIII]

CK16, on 19 December 2016 - 10:37 AM, said:

Although true, I enjoy that this game is not an anime mecha game. I won't say the genre sucks, but mechwarrior games have never felt like a Gundam Wing reskinned game if you catch my drift.

Just look at the normal Phoenix Hawk. Look at it. Look at the Annihilator. Battletech has anime in its blood, and taking it out would leave it malnourished.