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[Bombast]

LastKhan, on 19 December 2016 - 08:23 PM, said:

I wonder if it means the Axeman will make an appearance in BT and not MW;O.

For the initial release, HBS has decided not to design any of their own mechs, as it'll cost money and time. Their answer on making their own mechs has basically been...

1. Yes, they can do it

2. In success all thing's are possible

Though, given everyone's love of the Hatchetman, developer and fan alike, I assume that will be the initial melee mech HBS releases, if they choose to do so at some point.

[The Zohan]

Not a fan of this crap, never was, never will. Looks good though.

[Juodas Varnas]

The Zohan, on 19 December 2016 - 10:41 PM, said:

Not a fan of this crap, never was, never will. Looks good though.

That's because you're a stinkin' clanner!

[Claxton Weathers]

Little rascals, better read the whole piece...

Edited by Claxton Weathers, 19 December 2016 - 11:49 PM.

[Paigan]

LastKhan, on 19 December 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

Atlas punching action.

http://imgur.com/GSpPl5N

Rest of it found here;

https://community.ba...ms/threads/5188

My god, this is SO cheesy.
[Redacted]

Bipedal war tanks PUNCHING each other? Are you serious?
Why not just shoot the enemy Mech?

And as a funny little bonus:
If the tech used for the armor can withstand multiple hits from a gauss or jumps/falls from many meters height, what do you think a PUNCH would do on it? Exactely NOTHING. NOTHING.

If you so totally lack the basic understanding of kinetic energy and area of impact, etc. (and to counter all the naive "it's just fiction" buffoons), consider this simple scenario:
A knight in full armor punches another knight in full armor.
Damage done? Zero.
The punched knight would just stand there and be like "Cool story, bro. Why not use your sword, lol."


Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only adult around here.

Edited by draiocht, 02 January 2017 - 11:43 PM.
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[Juodas Varnas]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only adult around here.

Not necessarily an adult.

Just a filthy clanner!

[Cabusha3]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

My god, this is SO cheesy.
[Redacted]

Bipedal war tanks PUNCHING each other? Are you serious?
Why not just shoot the enemy Mech?

And as a funny little bonus:
If the tech used for the armor can withstand multiple hits from a gauss or jumps/falls from many meters height, what do you think a PUNCH would do on it? Exactely NOTHING. NOTHING.

If you so totally lack the basic understanding of kinetic energy and area of impact, etc. (and to counter all the naive "it's just fiction" buffoons), consider this simple scenario:
A knight in full armor punches another knight in full armor.
Damage done? Zero.
The punched knight would just stand there and be like "Cool story, bro. Why not use your sword, lol."


Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only adult around here.

And yet a ship that rams another ship does catastrophic damage, no?

Haters gonna hate.

Edited by draiocht, 02 January 2017 - 11:43 PM.
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[Jay Leon Hart]

Death From Above - CONFIRMED!

[-morituri-]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

My god, this is SO cheesy.
[Redacted]

Bipedal war tanks PUNCHING each other? Are you serious?
Why not just shoot the enemy Mech?

And as a funny little bonus:
If the tech used for the armor can withstand multiple hits from a gauss or jumps/falls from many meters height, what do you think a PUNCH would do on it? Exactely NOTHING. NOTHING.

If you so totally lack the basic understanding of kinetic energy and area of impact, etc. (and to counter all the naive "it's just fiction" buffoons), consider this simple scenario:
A knight in full armor punches another knight in full armor.
Damage done? Zero.
The punched knight would just stand there and be like "Cool story, bro. Why not use your sword, lol."


Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only adult around here.

oh yeah? Now compare gauss round weight with a weight of Atlases ARM, it may sound like gauss will have more puncture effect, but if you add up speeds at which 2 mechs are moving and the the punch energy itself, i bet melee doesnt look so stupid after all.

Edited by draiocht, 02 January 2017 - 11:44 PM.
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[GreyNovember]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

falls from many meters height

Fall damage totally doesn't happen.

Nope.

I too am a completely rational adult who derides any sense of fantasy people have that isn't strictly mine.

[naterist]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

My god, this is SO cheesy.
[Redacted]

Bipedal war tanks PUNCHING each other? Are you serious?
Why not just shoot the enemy Mech?

And as a funny little bonus:
If the tech used for the armor can withstand multiple hits from a gauss or jumps/falls from many meters height, what do you think a PUNCH would do on it? Exactely NOTHING. NOTHING.

If you so totally lack the basic understanding of kinetic energy and area of impact, etc. (and to counter all the naive "it's just fiction" buffoons), consider this simple scenario:
A knight in full armor punches another knight in full armor.
Damage done? Zero.
The punched knight would just stand there and be like "Cool story, bro. Why not use your sword, lol."


Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only adult around here.

what about a punch to the face, or when the time comes, an ax? on top off that this adds the possibility of death from above, a move the highlander was built almost spoecifically to do witch bada** legs built to crush cockpits, and minimize damage to itself? thats the main thing about it.

and that atlas is putting puttingalmost its full weight into that blow, if anything the force normal and friction is bouncing and tearing that armour right off it securing bolts.

also, totally makes sense that mechs can fall and be fine, they have gyros and knee actuators, same as humans have equilibrium and knees. probably have some padding and structure just for that purpose, same as human knees do too.

Edited by draiocht, 02 January 2017 - 11:44 PM.
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[Lily from animove]

Kasumi Sumika, on 19 December 2016 - 06:32 PM, said:

I once was an assault like you, then I took a commando to the knee.



(thats a commando right?)

Edited by Lily from animove, 20 December 2016 - 04:05 AM.

[LastKhan]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

My god, this is SO cheesy.
[Redacted]

Bipedal war tanks PUNCHING each other? Are you serious?
Why not just shoot the enemy Mech?

And as a funny little bonus:
If the tech used for the armor can withstand multiple hits from a gauss or jumps/falls from many meters height, what do you think a PUNCH would do on it? Exactely NOTHING. NOTHING.

If you so totally lack the basic understanding of kinetic energy and area of impact, etc. (and to counter all the naive "it's just fiction" buffoons), consider this simple scenario:
A knight in full armor punches another knight in full armor.
Damage done? Zero.
The punched knight would just stand there and be like "Cool story, bro. Why not use your sword, lol."


Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only adult around here.

Super kool story breh also poor analogy what you missed is the weight and force. Think of those knights are stories high and weigh almost a couple tons and have one of the arms still weighing a few tons or two come crashing down on a smaller machine. Yea there will be damage. Melee really is kinda a last ditch effort like when you run dry of ammo and you're close enough or the opposite. You dont wanna waste ammo so, why not?

And actually i get the impression you are just trolling really. b-baka!

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[Widowmaker1981]

Stefan the Usurper Amaris, on 19 December 2016 - 06:14 PM, said:

Few weeks? Try a few months or more. IF HBS BT turns out to be what everyone, certainly everyone, is looking for then you can bet that MWO will turn into the Tourmaline Desert.

Assuming of course we are only referring to people who play MWO purely because it is the only Battletech based game that currently exists. HBS wont cater to people who like the Mechwarrior FPS aspect, because its not an FPS, its a turn based strategy game..

[Bombast]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

Sometimes I get the impression I'm the only adult around here.

One would think that a person who felt like the only adult around would act like it.

But no. Apparently, such a feeling instead inspires childish tantrums, nonsensical rants, and a bad case of 'Stop liking what I don't like' usually unseen once you get out of high school.

[Rhaythe]

Pretty awesome. If only there were a way to awesomer it...

[MeiSooHaityu]

Widowmaker1981, on 20 December 2016 - 04:47 AM, said:

Assuming of course we are only referring to people who play MWO purely because it is the only Battletech based game that currently exists. HBS wont cater to people who like the Mechwarrior FPS aspect, because its not an FPS, its a turn based strategy game..

HBS's Battletech has me very excited, and yet I am very much a MechWarrior fan and a fan of the FPS genre.

I am sure there are individuals who only like FPS games and therefore Battletech won't appeal to them, but I think a lot of people like to play more than one genre of gaming. For as popular as FPS games are (they seem to rule the landscape after all), turn-based games like XCOM have done extremely well and have been very popular. I am confident that a very large percentage of XCOM fans are also fans of FPS games.

Therefore I don't feel there is a solid divide between MWO/MW5:Mercs players and Battletech. Although many might dismiss it, I believe there are many more who will play both. Since Battletech will be a brand new release, and MWO will be about 5 years old at that time, this game might see quite the population dip for at least a few weeks. I think that is to be expected. Afterall, it happens with other game releases as it is.

[Bishop Steiner]

LastKhan, on 19 December 2016 - 08:23 PM, said:

I wonder if it means the Axeman will make an appearance in BT and not MW;O.

Axman? Pfffrft. Berserker. 100 tons, 4/6/4 movement, TSM, Hatchet.

[RestosIII]

Paigan, on 20 December 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

Whining about one of the coolest things I've seen in years

[BoldricKent]

It will be great game.
Axeman and Hatchman i guess will come later, game is set in 3025 (no FRR), and both chassis are preclan design
so circa 3050.
One thing they did with melee, is to simplified it, you dont get to choose what kind of attack your mech performs,
it depends on it size and position to opponent (catapult can just kick, Atlas cant swing arms to Commando but it will kick it)
and unlike in TT, small arms will auto fire when in melee. DFA is real.