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#141 The6thMessenger

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:53 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:


I define a slap by the damage dealt versus the cost to me. Quad PPC with only 14 DHS? With low arms? Yeah, I get 80 damage, and not quickly, and then everybody else on the map either fries me or I spend the next 20 seconds lollygagging while I wait to cool off. And min-range to boot. Quad PPCs only really works when you've got 20x DHS at minimum.

It's not at all equivalent to an AC/20, which can press down.


View PostThe6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:


It used to have 2B.

Anyways Kaiju would obviously win -- after all it's meta-built, and unlike the Pulsar it has SRMs that will make the PPCs useless 90m. Would it be OP if i added a quirk that removed the PPC minimum range?

Here's a version with MOAR heatsinks -- 20 heatsinks total.

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The updated version has 20 heatsinks, XL350 10(4) + 6. Of course it's not an equivalent to AC20, but it does have per/shot damage, has longer range, faster projectile. It aims to have the same damage per shot, the same bite, but not the exact same performance, the fact that it has different projectile behavior and weapon range, the fact that it's a PPC as opposed to an AC20, it should have been obvious. Being PPC centric, it's obvious that it's capitalizing at something else than the AC20 would otherwise provide, like long-range.

Oh yeah, that AMS ammo on the arms, well DHS just eats so much crit slots, i can't put anything else to fit the remaining 1 slot on the arms unless it's another ammo. I could probably reallocate the AMS to the arms, but i would probably look ugly.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 08 January 2017 - 09:54 PM.


#142 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 10:16 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 09:53 PM, said:




The updated version has 20 heatsinks, XL350 10(4) + 6. Of course it's not an equivalent to AC20, but it does have per/shot damage, has longer range, faster projectile. It aims to have the same damage per shot, the same bite, but not the exact same performance, the fact that it has different projectile behavior and weapon range, the fact that it's a PPC as opposed to an AC20, it should have been obvious. Being PPC centric, it's obvious that it's capitalizing at something else than the AC20 would otherwise provide, like long-range.

Oh yeah, that AMS ammo on the arms, well DHS just eats so much crit slots, i can't put anything else to fit the remaining 1 slot on the arms unless it's another ammo. I could probably reallocate the AMS to the arms, but i would probably look ugly.

honestly, not enough AMS ammo. I'd lose one of the LRM5s and swap the 2xCT ones for SRM4s, myself. (I need to look that up...been a while since I drove mine)

or...for ultimate giggles....
Endo
350std Engine
14ish DHS
maxi armor
6x LRM5 w/6 tons ammo (3 per ST)
4x SRM4 w/4 tons ammo (2 per arm)
4x AMS w/4 tons ammo (2 per ST)
TAG (head)
Guardian ECM (CT)

Just to be totally fracking different. And yes, I know I went of the reservation with hardpoints, lol)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 08 January 2017 - 10:18 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 10:20 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 08 January 2017 - 10:16 PM, said:

honestly, not enough AMS ammo. I'd lose one of the LRM5s and swap the 2xCT ones for SRM4s, myself. (I need to look that up...been a while since I drove mine)

or...for ultimate giggles....
Endo
350std Engine
14ish DHS
maxi armor
6x LRM5 w/6 tons ammo (3 per ST)
4x SRM4 w/4 tons ammo (2 per arm)
4x AMS w/4 tons ammo (2 per ST)
TAG (head)
Guardian ECM (CT)

Just to be totally fracking different. And yes, I know I went of the reservation with hardpoints, lol)


Well, yeah, the AMS has not enough ammo, but really it's just there like the MG, to actually highlight the hardpoints. I could replace the missiles with 2x SRM4 (CT) + SRM2 (HD), "Pulsar", replace LRM15 with PPC. But honestly i'm hoping for the maximum tube count, oh well. Also what's the best ammo for an SRM10?

Lol, missile-centric? xD Oh the rainbow -- i'd just call that Rainbowbrite.

Could you try and just photoshop the thingy? I did mine with paint.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 08 January 2017 - 10:30 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 10:23 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

Well, yeah, the AMS has not enough ammo, but really it's just there like the MG, to actually highlight the hardpoints.

Lol, missile-centric? xD Oh the rainbow -- i'd just call that Rainbowbrite.

Could you try and just photoshop the thingy? I did mine with paint.

yeah, probably...but not tonight... painkillers (tore my left MCL a week ago) plus tequila .... math not my friend ATM, lol.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 10:48 PM

The KC hero should be the first mech able to equip 4 ams.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 11:34 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 07 January 2017 - 10:50 PM, said:

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I like the idea on energy hard points in the arm considering someone actually did this in the BTU when his Victor lost the AC/20 (the Victor Li from Operational Turning Points: Death to Mercenaries) so replacing the AC/20s with a series of Pules Lasers would be something someone would do. I would say 3 Pulse Laser in each arm would be near perfect fit but that would take a little away from the Boars Head. The torso Ballistic HP also makes me think more of the Marauder II (considering the popularity of the Marauder and Mad IIC, good money we will see a Mad II)

While 'moar missiles' would put the hero KC in the '100 ton Stalker' territory, it may be the way to go with the popularity of KC Lurmers.

The only other thing that I can think of is 'screw it, lets make it a Annihilator!' and cover it in Ballistic hard points like the Mauler... which would just make it a 100 ton Mauler.

Edited by Steel Raven, 08 January 2017 - 11:34 PM.


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 01:54 AM

View PostMechaBattler, on 06 January 2017 - 06:36 PM, said:

How is the King Crab these days? What with the Kodiak face eating everything..


KDK is old news, Ultraviolet with 8 cuac2s eats it for breakfast, Mad IIC Scorch has it for dinner


King Crab is still ok, it's worse than the 3 above, no argument, but it's still viable

Edited by DovisKhan, 09 January 2017 - 01:55 AM.






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