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[Y E O N N E]

I find it strange that a 'Mech we're calling the Pulsar features anything other than Large Pulse Lasers.

[NighthawK1337]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

I find it strange that a 'Mech we're calling the Pulsar features anything other than Large Pulse Lasers.

Mech full of PPCs, Particle Projector Cannon. Well, "Particular" doesn't really roll off the tongue as a mech name. XD

Also it's keeping with the space theme of its successor the "Supernova"
which is supposed to be the clan energy upgrade of the KGC.

Edited by NighthawK1337, 08 January 2017 - 03:54 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

I find it strange that a 'Mech we're calling the Pulsar features anything other than Large Pulse Lasers.

It still has to kind of be a King Crab with it's AC20s, so 2xPPCs are the only projectile-based 20-damage to fit the bill.

[Bishop Steiner]

The6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 04:40 PM, said:

It still has to kind of be a King Crab with it's AC20s, so 2xPPCs are the only projectile-based 20-damage to fit the bill.

why? There are also models packing Gauss and LB-10X, not just AC20

[Snazzy Dragon]

What if it was a king crab with 14 energy hardpoints and it came with 2 lpls and 12 spls?

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 08 January 2017 - 04:56 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 January 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

why? There are also models packing Gauss and LB-10X, not just AC20

Because it was based from that.

And energy version of what would have been a King Crab with an AC20, but energy. Still Gauss and LB10X would still be cannons hurling a PPFLD projectile anyways.

LPL are also underwhelming and don't pack that PTSD inducing shake.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 08 January 2017 - 05:08 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

LPL? Underwhelming? Wat. Come on, now, the LPL is one of the best weapons in the game!

[The6thMessenger]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

LPL? Underwhelming? Wat. Come on, now, the LPL is one of the best weapons in the game!

Underwhelming =/= weak. Yes, that is 22 damage per shot, but PPC is 20 PPFLD damage with low face-time, and screen shake, precisely what would have been an energy version of an AC20.

I pushed PPC because it's supposed to be an energy-version of what would have been otherwise an AC20 king-crab, it also has that screen shake.

[Y E O N N E]

PPCs don't produce screen shake, man. Gauss rifles do, and Gauss are often combined with PPCs, but PPCs alone do not.

[The6thMessenger]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 06:30 PM, said:

PPCs don't produce screen shake, man. Gauss rifles do, and Gauss are often combined with PPCs, but PPCs alone do not.

http://mwo.gamepedia.com/C-Gauss_Rifle

Cockpit shake: 0.75
Impulse: 0.05

http://mwo.gamepedia.com/PPC

Cockpit shake: 0.3
Impulse: 0.03

Sure it's little, but does have it. Also PPFLD. It also has the same cockpit shake as AC10s, http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Autocannon_10, so it's still kind of big if it's put at that perspective.

Quote

The Particle Projector Cannon (or PPC) is a unique energy weapon. PPCs fire a concentrated stream of protons or ions at a target, causing damage through both thermal and kinetic energy.[3] Despite being an energy weapon, it produces recoil. The lethality of the weapon rivals that of higher-caliber autocannons; just three shots from a PPC will vaporize nearly two tons of standard military-grade armor.[4] Targets hit by multiple, simultaneous PPCs can also suffer electrical side-effects, such as overloaded computer systems or targeting sensors.[5] The ion beam also extends to much farther ranges than autocannon fire, though PPCs generate large amounts of waste heat.

PPCs are equipped with a Field Inhibitor to prevent feedback which could damage the firing unit's electronic systems.[6] This inhibitor degrades the performance of the weapon at close ranges of less than 90 meters. Particularly daring warriors have been known to disengage the inhibitor and risk damage to their own machine when a target is at close range.

http://www.sarna.net...rojector_Cannon

And because action/reaction, there must be a kinetic energy that is imparted by the projectile as well, because it produces recoil.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 08 January 2017 - 07:03 PM.

[NighthawK1337]

Paint Options.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar

XD

Space is cool.

[Brain Cancer]

Gimme the -010.

That's hero KGC enough for me, and it's an interesting hardpoint mix to boot. If the energy mounts are high enough, it'd be surprisingly good at hillhumping.

[Y E O N N E]

The6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 06:58 PM, said:

http://mwo.gamepedia.com/C-Gauss_Rifle

Cockpit shake: 0.75
Impulse: 0.05

http://mwo.gamepedia.com/PPC

Cockpit shake: 0.3
Impulse: 0.03

Sure it's little, but does have it. Also PPFLD. It also has the same cockpit shake as AC10s, http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Autocannon_10, so it's still kind of big if it's put at that perspective.



And because action/reaction, there must be a kinetic energy that is imparted by the projectile as well, because it produces recoil.

And so it does produce impulse in MWO. Nothing at all like getting slapped by AC/20, though.

Sarna quote is honestly irrelevant. MWO is what MWO is; what it's supposed to be has been lost for years.

[The6thMessenger]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 08:16 PM, said:

And so it does produce impulse in MWO. Nothing at all like getting slapped by AC/20, though.

Well, there is still a slap, and that's the point.

[Y E O N N E]

The6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

Well, there is still a slap, and that's the point.

I suppose, but it's more of a slap to your heatsinks than anything else.

[The6thMessenger]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

I suppose, but it's more of a slap to your heatsinks than anything else.

It's an energy weapon, the hell did you expect?

[Y E O N N E]

The6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

It's an energy weapon, the hell did you expect?

More of a slap to the enemy?

[RestosIII]

The6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

It's an energy weapon, the hell did you expect?

I'm still sitting here wishing PPCs scrambled your HUD and IFF for a short period.

[The6thMessenger]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 January 2017 - 08:35 PM, said:

More of a slap to the enemy?

You mean like the 20 damage to the face per arm? Doesn't need ammo like the AC20 and can be done so at an extended range. And as PPFLD it can't be spread around like lasers.

Haven't you ever shot a PPC before? It's a god damn pair of PPC, not AC20, ******* stop.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 08 January 2017 - 09:08 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

The6thMessenger, on 08 January 2017 - 08:59 PM, said:

You mean like the 20 damage to the face per arm? Doesn't need ammo like the AC20 and can be done so at an extended range. And as PPFLD it can't be spread around like lasers.

Haven't you ever shot a PPC before? It's a god damn pair of PPC, not AC20, ******* stop.

I define a slap by the damage dealt versus the cost to me. Quad PPC with only 14 DHS? With low arms? Yeah, I get 80 damage, and not quickly, and then everybody else on the map either fries me or I spend the next 20 seconds lollygagging while I wait to cool off. And min-range to boot. Quad PPCs only really works when you've got 20x DHS at minimum.

It's not at all equivalent to an AC/20, which can press down.