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[xPAKFAx]

Help me chose between these 2 please.
I'll soon have credits for only one of them, so I want to make the most of it for my 1st Atlas. I have watched a few videos and seen some builds.

I plan to use AC 20 with SRM 6-As and some lasers (as a general build). Specifically it will be depending on which one I chose, of course.

I do have 2 questions left unanswered:
1. Is the crit hit chance -25% really worth it?
2. Is the ECM on an Atlas chassis worth it? Being that is so big slow...

The D variant actually has better quirks for AC 20 and better accel/decel too.

Most of the videos and builds I seen lately are for the D-DC. If someone has a good build for the D variant I'd appreciate it.

[Hit the Deck]

My favorite is the S variant.

if I had to choose between the two, I'd pick the D-DC.

[xPAKFAx]

Hit the Deck, on 10 January 2017 - 04:29 AM, said:

My favorite is the S variant.

if I had to choose between the two, I'd pick the D-DC.

Because of the extra missile slot? And a 4 x SRM 6 build?

[JC Daxion]

with the skill change coming, there is Zero reason to pick a mech because of quirks right now..

the only thing that will remain from now are hard points. How the skill system will effect these mechs is anyone's guess.

So do you want 3 missile+ 2 energy with ECM? OR do you want 2 missile+ 4 energy hard points?

xPAKFAx, on 10 January 2017 - 04:32 AM, said:

Because of the extra missile slot? And a 4 x SRM 6 build?

Yes, that is why people take the S..

[Bohxim]

1) you'll want to get 3 variants anyways due to eliting them. So the priority is which to get first.
2) ddc gas ecm . Lrms are the bane of slow assaults caught out in the open crossing ground or that happens to be where the engagement zone is. Ecm helps with disrupting lrm lock so you get more time. And you cover your mates as well
3) ecm helps with target info denial. You don't want oppon3n5a focusing on badly damaged parts, so it's always good to have
4) quirks vary during quirk passes so don't rely too much on qui4ks to buy your mechs. Besides even without the offensive quirks, the ddc still packs a punch.
5) I'm just assuming because you have low post counts and are saving for a first chassis to a mech, you are relatively new. Would not suggest atlas or any short range and slow niche assaults to someone new to the weight class. No offense, just what I'm assuming. Might be better to start off with a faster mech that allows more mid/range than an atlas if you're new. Try a mauler, kdk or cyclops first. Only if you're comfortable with the weight class then consider whether the atlas style is suited for you. Only see 2 types of atlas players. Those who fail so bad and those who can make use of terrain to mitigate the slow speed and get close.

Good luck fellow mech warrior hope to see you on the field

[Snazzy Dragon]

DDC is more reliable because of ECM and more missiles. Energy on an atlas just isn't sustainable because DHS take up 3 slots each on top of 14 slots from endo. Only way to get enough DHS for an energy atlas is an XL engine for the internal slots-- and that is a stupid idea in most cases. DDC > D

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 10 January 2017 - 04:41 AM.

[Tarogato]

AS7-S > AS7-D-DC > all the others


Yes the ECM is worth it for pugging to save you against LRMs.

[Steve Pryde]

Tarogato, on 10 January 2017 - 04:45 AM, said:

AS7-S > AS7-D-DC > all the others


Yes the ECM is worth it for pugging to save you against LRMs.

This

And with the new skill tree in the future u won't need three mechs to master them (at least that is what I have read), so maybe I would only take the S- and DC-variant.

Edited by Steve Pryde, 10 January 2017 - 04:54 AM.

[Hit the Deck]

xPAKFAx, on 10 January 2017 - 04:32 AM, said:

Because of the extra missile slot? And a 4 x SRM 6 build?

Yep

And because PGI gave me this beauty:





The thing is, you want to use that Ballistic mount(s) on an Atlas and it only goes well with the Missile hardpoints. Unless you have the Hero.

[xPAKFAx]

Alright, thanks for the info.

Considering the upcoming changes the D-DC will be then.

Yes, I am less than a week old in MWO, but it will be my 3rd mech. I have a Grasshopper and a Catapult. So I want a heavy now.

[Bohxim]

It won't be that soon that pgi will release the new skill tree. And the grasshopper will really benefit from the double basics you get upon eliting it.
But of course it's also nice to widen your hangar options heh

[xPAKFAx]

I don't plan to buy 3 of each anyway, that's why I go for 1 of each I like.

So far Grasshopper I like the least, but it's also not fully upgraded so... yeah.

[Tarogato]

xPAKFAx, on 10 January 2017 - 04:58 AM, said:

Alright, thanks for the info.

Considering the upcoming changes the D-DC will be then.

Yes, I am less than a week old in MWO, but it will be my 3rd mech. I have a Grasshopper and a Catapult. So I want a heavy now.

You're only a week into the game and you were in my Tier 1 match?

... gg PSR.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Tarogato, on 10 January 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:

You're only a week into the game and you were in my Tier 1 match?

... gg PSR.

Yep, tier 1 isn't the mythical land of elite players it's made out to be. Reality check!

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 10 January 2017 - 05:11 AM.

[El Bandito]

Don't listen to these fools! Buy the Atlas-K! It has whooping 15% energy range, which means 776 meter ER Large Lasers! It also has 20% cooldown on that badass LRM20! Don't forget it has Gauss plus XL engine! It will strike fear into the hearts of Clanner scums!

And it has two AMS to shoot down any incoming missiles, offering unparalleled survivability!

Edited by El Bandito, 12 January 2017 - 05:15 PM.

[xPAKFAx]

Tarogato, on 10 January 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:

You're only a week into the game and you were in my Tier 1 match?

... gg PSR.

I'm tier 4... don't know how you saw me in tier 1.

[El Bandito]

xPAKFAx, on 10 January 2017 - 05:14 AM, said:

I'm tier 4... don't know how you saw me in tier 1.

See? He is T4, not T5.

[Karl Streiger]

Seriously there is exact one reason to drive a AS7-D - the reason is (F)

In all other cases DDC - and when T4 T5 is back in the marian trench of playsyle the ECM grants almost invulnerability while you take a walk over open plains, but the moment you get into T3 you need to mothball the DDC

Edited by Karl Streiger, 10 January 2017 - 05:20 AM.

[TercieI]

2017? Don't buy an Atlas.

[Steve Pryde]

TercieI, on 10 January 2017 - 05:21 AM, said:

2017? Don't buy an Atlas.

Not really. It's still one of the best brawler mechs in the game. When a fresh Atlas is showing up in front of you and your not fast enough, you're pretty much dead.