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[Hawk819]

Only MechWarrior 3 got it right. . . .MechWarrior 4, just messed it all the hell up. Now, it has returned with the help of Alex Iglesias and PGI, it's going to rock and roll.

[S3dition]

As promised, Purchased the maximum pack for the Bushwacker. Model stands a little higher than I would have liked, but still love the design. Counting the days for its release.

Edited by S3dition, 16 January 2017 - 02:20 AM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Sidefire, on 13 January 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

High-mount, long range ballistic boat Meta Crutch tryhard...

>:-(

[Uncle Totty]

Prosperity Park, on 16 January 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

High-mount, long range ballistic boat Meta Crutch tryhard...

>:-(

Come on. We all know skill is overrated.

Edited by Uncle Totty, 16 January 2017 - 11:42 AM.

[TheLuc]

Dont get me wrong , its a really cool Mech, but still just an other Mech.

[Dee Eight]

Sidefire, on 13 January 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

Soon we get a Leclerc MBT ?

Edited by Dee Eight, 16 January 2017 - 01:03 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Dee Eight, on 16 January 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

Soon we get a Leclerc MBT ?

Heavy Rifles get a -3 damage modifier when used against Mech Armor...
You'd probably be better off with a GAU8A Avenger mounted on a tracked chassis, as that would qualify as an Autocannon and not suffer any penalties.

[Dee Eight]

Prosperity Park, on 16 January 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Heavy Rifles get a -3 damage modifier when used against Mech Armor...
You'd probably be better off with a GAU8A Avenger mounted on a tracked chassis, as that would qualify as an Autocannon and not suffer any penalties.

Considering the Leclerc has a 120mm smoothbore with an autoloader... I'd consider that an Autocannon... not a heavy rifle. Rifles were a lame attempt by some minor FASA writer to meet a deadline for a new supplement that needed "new" weapons and equipment in it. Catalyst in fact dropped them from the game when they published the CBT Tech Manual. Other things dropped as official by Catalyst included the Hyper-Velocity AC and Caseless AC, Laser anti-missile system, Glazed and Blazer armor, and other items. While Mech-Mortars as originally published were dropped, mortars were kept as infantry and battle armor equipment, as were recoilless rifles.

[AncientRaig]

Dee Eight, on 16 January 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Considering the Leclerc has a 120mm smoothbore with an autoloader... I'd consider that an Autocannon... not a heavy rifle. Rifles were a lame attempt by some minor FASA writer to meet a deadline for a new supplement that needed "new" weapons and equipment in it. Catalyst in fact dropped them from the game when they published the CBT Tech Manual. Other things dropped as official by Catalyst included the Hyper-Velocity AC and Caseless AC, Laser anti-missile system, Glazed and Blazer armor, and other items. While Mech-Mortars as originally published were dropped, mortars were kept as infantry and battle armor equipment, as were recoilless rifles.

Whaaaat? The HVAC is gone? But I like those......

[Felicitatem Parco]

Dee Eight, on 16 January 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Considering the Leclerc has a 120mm smoothbore with an autoloader... I'd consider that an Autocannon... not a heavy rifle. Rifles were a lame attempt by some minor FASA writer to meet a deadline for a new supplement that needed "new" weapons and equipment in it. Catalyst in fact dropped them from the game when they published the CBT Tech Manual. Other things dropped as official by Catalyst included the Hyper-Velocity AC and Caseless AC, Laser anti-missile system, Glazed and Blazer armor, and other items. While Mech-Mortars as originally published were dropped, mortars were kept as infantry and battle armor equipment, as were recoilless rifles.

I thought lore clearly stated that rapid-fire autocannon (note Rapid) is better for steadily removing ablative armor than single solid slugs. Remember the Mackie's trial test run? Those Futuristic tanks fired massive slugs from 120-140mm barrels, and they bounced off the Machine's diamond-impregnated armor.

Nope, modern tanks would be sporting Heavy Rifles since there's no way they would even meet the performance of the tanks faced by Mackie.

It's actually a key factor in explaining the effective damage and ranges of BT Autocannons. If single slugs worked in the BT universe, then the AC/20 would be both the most powerful AND the longest ranged AC.

Instead, BT has burst-fire ACs and their damage and range are INVERSELY proportional because the size of the burst determines the damage output and the recoil generated by the burst (the effective blooming) determines effective range.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 16 January 2017 - 01:43 PM.

[AncientRaig]

5th Fedcom Rat, on 15 January 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

I could nitpick things like the chunkiness of the torso and the strange shape of the side torso "cheeks", but the biggest issue I see with this is the need to fix the right arm ballistic mount. It's too low from both a Btech lore and gameplay viability perspective. There's no good reason to have it so low slung, when it should really be more in the "thumb" position on that claw hand.

It really should. Or, if they can't do that, go the MW4 route and put it where the hand is. I'd prefer it to be at the top of that thing it's at the bottom of right now, but I'll take MW4 Bushwacker if it means decently mounted AC10.

[AncientRaig]

Prosperity Park, on 16 January 2017 - 01:41 PM, said:

I thought lore clearly stated that rapid-fire autocannon (note Rapid) is better for steadily removing ablative armor than single solid slugs. Remember the Mackie's trial test run? Those Futuristic tanks fired massive slugs from 120-140mm barrels, and they bounced off the Machine's diamond-impregnated armor.

Nope, modern tanks would be sporting Heavy Rifles since there's no way they would even meet the performance of the tanks faced by Mackie.

It's actually a key factor in explaining the effective damage and ranges of BT Autocannons. If single slugs worked in the BT universe, then the AC/20 would be both the most powerful AND the longest ranged AC.

Instead, BT has burst-fire ACs and their damage and range are INVERSELY proportional because the size of the burst determines the damage output and the recoil generated by the burst (the effective blooming) determines effective range.

I thought it was because Rifles were too heavy compared to an autocannon, which could carry more ammo and make use of more specialized ammo as well. Heavy and Medium rifles can damage mechs. Light rifles can't. According to Sarna, a Heavy rifle does 9 damage and weighs 8 tons, which makes it better than an AC5 until you consider that it only carries 6 shots per ton.

[Greenburg Godzillas]

{Considering the Leclerc has a 120mm smoothbore with an autoloader... I'd consider that an Autocannon... not a heavy rifle. Rifles were a lame attempt by some minor FASA writer to meet a deadline for a new supplement that needed "new" weapons and equipment in it. Catalyst in fact dropped them from the game when they published the CBT Tech Manual. Other things dropped as official by Catalyst included the Hyper-Velocity AC and Caseless AC, Laser anti-missile system, Glazed and Blazer armor, and other items. While Mech-Mortars as originally published were dropped, mortars were kept as infantry and battle armor equipment, as were recoilless rifles.}

No... My Blue Shield.......

[Uncle Totty]

Seven days! (So... Where is the countdown?)

[M A S E]

Adorable, PGI crutching Frontier's slogan as a headline

[Duke78]

With the autocannon attached this right arm seems to be shouting "hit me here". Well I won´t panic and see how it performs when it´s launched.

[drachnien]

M A S E, on 17 January 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

Adorable, PGI crutching Frontier's slogan as a headline

No idea what frontier is (do you mean the guys who make the rollercoaster games?) but the phrase "blaze a trail" dates back to the 1800's

[Arkhangel]

http://cfw.sarna.net...=20100214153925

Ballistic on the arm's actually right where it's supposed to be.

Edited by Arkhangel, 19 January 2017 - 07:37 AM.

[jper4]

there was going to be a 10 day countdown but it got bushwhacked.

[Arkhangel]

Tanar, on 19 January 2017 - 07:43 AM, said:

there was going to be a 10 day countdown but it got bushwhacked.

only a matter of time before someone made that joke