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[CK16]

So, we know this summer we are getting new tech and new mechs, they go on to clarify that all weapons will be unlocked from the start for us to plug in and play with our current roster of mechs.

So here is a question, what about adding in reinforcements in as well with this mech release? Not sure if it would be possible to do one for ever current chassis (at least not on release), but what about a few? Something in like the range of 4 each (one of each weight class)

IS
-Need an IS lore hound here, I cant get a good list)

Clan

-Mist Lynx F
LA - 1 Light Tag, 2 Heavy Small Laser, 1 Heavy Medium laser (4 E)
LT - X
CT - X
HD - Active Probe
RT - Targeting Computer, ECM Suit (1 ECM)
RA - 2 Heavy Small Laser, 2 Heavy Medium Laser (4 E)

-Shadow Cat C
LA - 1 ER Medium Laser, 1 ATM 6 (1E, 1M)
LT - 1 ER Medium Laser (1E)
CT - x
HD - x
RT - 1 NARC (1M)
RA - 1 ER Medium Laser, 1 ATM 6 (1E, 1M)

or

-Shadow Cat H

Spoiler

LA - x
LT - 1 A+LRM 20 (1M)
CT - x
HD - x
RT - 1 Targeting Comp
RA - 1 Heavy Largh Laser (1E)

-Mad Dog D
LA - 1 ER Small laser, 1 ER medium Laser (2E)
LT - 1 ATM 12 (1M)
CT - 2 Medium Pulse (2E)
HD - x
RT - 1 ATM 12 (1M)
RA - 1 ER Small laser, 1 ER medium Laser (2E)

-Dire Wolf C
LA - 1 ATM 6, 1 ER PPC (1M, 1 E)
LT - 3 Medium Pulse Laser (1E)
CT - 1 ECM (1 ECM)
HD - 1 SSRM4 (1 M)
RT - 1 Medium Pulse Laser (1 E)
RA - 1 ATM 6, 1 ER PPC (1M, 1 E)

Edited by CK16, 14 January 2017 - 11:14 AM.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Yay, more mech variants. Good thing we have a skill tree grind coming up.

[Spheroid]

@Snazzy, doesn't matter I can combine those pods with already mastered variants. The grind will not exist for some. Also bring on Warhawk-F (3054).

[Pariah Devalis]

It's something I can expect to happen. Something that is not so much a mech pack, as it is a variant enhancement pack. Granted, the newtech will be available in the mechlab regardless, but it is a great chance to insert some new variants at the same time.

[Y E O N N E]

Somebody who knows better can correct my allocations, but here's what I got for IS:

Marauder-7D:
Introduced: 3068
Engine: 300 XL
Chassis: EndoSteel
Armor: Standard
Heatsinks: 16x Double
LA: 1x ERLL + 1x ERML+ 2x DHS
LT: 1x TC Mk. VI + CASE + 2t RAC/5 ammo
LL: N/A
CT: 1x ECM
H: N/A
RL: N/A
RT: 1x RAC/5 + 1x DHS
RA: 1x ERLL + 1x ERML + 1x DHS

Marauder-9M:
Introduced: 3068
Engine: 300 XL
Chassis: Standard
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous
Heatsinks: 16x Double
LA: 2x ERLL
LT: 1x SSRM6 + 1t SSRM ammo + 2x DHS
LL: N/A
CT: 1x ECM
H: 1x TAG
RL: N/A
RT: 1x SSRM6 + 1t SSRM ammo + 2x DHS
RA: 2x ERLL


Rifleman-8D:
Introduced: 3064
Engine: 240 XL
Chassis: EndoSteel
Armor: Standard
Heatsinks: 11x Double
LA: 1x RAC/5 + 1x ERML + 3t RAC/5 ammo
LT: 1x DHS
LL: 2x JJ
CT: N/A
H: 1x TAG
LL: 2x JJ
RT: 1x DHS
RA: 1x RAC/5 + 1xERML + 3t RAC/5 ammo

Rifleman-7M:*
Introduced: 3066
Engine: 240 XL
Chassis: Standard
Armor: Standard
Heatsinks: 12x Double
LA: 1x LGauss + 2x ERML +1t LGauss ammo
LT: 1x ERML + 1x DHS
LL: N/A
CT: 1x ECM
H: 1x SL
LL: N/A
RT: 1x ERML + 2x DHS
RA: 1x LGauss + 2xERML + 1t LGauss ammo

* A lot of assumptions on this one, i.e. using standard chassis/armor, XL engine, DHS, number and placement of DHS, and number and placement of ammo.

[Bombast]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 January 2017 - 12:43 PM, said:

Marauder-7D
Marauder-9M
Rifleman-7M

ECM upgrade?

I'm pretty sure we've just found the contestants for the 2017 Inner Sphere Loyalty Program.

As for IS variants in general... The skill tree kind of makes many of them redundant, as they just upgrade the weapons of of old chassis but not the hard points.

Except for the ECM ones, of course.

[Y E O N N E]

Bombast, on 14 January 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

Except for the ECM ones, of course.

And the JJ ones!

Though the RFL-7M also tickles my fancy because it gets 7xE on top of having 2xB. Hooray, finally some IS 'Mechs not called Stalker which have big numbers of guns that are actually useful! I'm gonna stuff 2x LAC/5 on there with four ERML and three X-Pulse if I can.

I think there are several valuable WHM variants to add, but I do not honestly care for the WHM at all and so I'll let somebody else do the digging for that.

Also, for Mist Lynx, I need dat G-config! Who can say no to 8x MG and 4x ER Micro Laser on a Mist Lynx? Not me!

[Bombast]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 January 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Though the RFL-7M also tickles my fancy because it gets 7xE on top of having 2xB. Hooray, finally some IS 'Mechs not called Stalker which have big numbers of guns that are actually useful! I'm gonna stuff 2x LAC/5 on there with four ERML and three X-Pulse if I can.

So basically a Super Blackjack BJ-1? Neat.

Though I'm going to be honest, I think Light Autocannons... might be on the bottom of the likely weapon list, just above ATMs and Mech Mortars.

Hmm... you've got me wondering though. Maybe it's worth peeking on Sarna at my favorite chassis to see the possibilities.

[Y E O N N E]

Bombast, on 14 January 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

So basically a Super Blackjack BJ-1? Neat.

Super BJ-1DC + ECM, more like.

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Though I'm going to be honest, I think Light Autocannons... might be on the bottom of the likely weapon list, just above ATMs and Mech Mortars.

That would be tragic, because they should be second behind only ER Mediums and ER Smalls in the weapon department, and third behind LFEs overall. LACs let the Mauler breathe, with an LFE/XL and a full suite of six 5-class guns to compete with Clan Dakka, FLD vs. raw DPS.

[Bombast]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 January 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

That would be tragic, because they should be second behind only ER Mediums and ER Smalls in the weapon department, and third behind LFEs overall. LACs let the Mauler breathe, with an LFE/XL and a full suite of six 5-class guns to compete with Clan Dakka, FLD vs. raw DPS.

Don't get me wrong, they'd be nice. Especially the LAC/2, which trades range which you can rarely leverage for tonnage. LAC/5 boats will probably be what most people like, but the LAC/2 brings much needed dakka to where it really needs to be. Dual LAC/2 Urbies? Sextuple LAC/2 Jagermechs with actual armor and an engine?

LAC/5s may, potentially, be the meta, but LAC/2s are going to be where all the fun is.

[Y E O N N E]

LAC/5 have the range of an AC/10; that's the biggest drawback and would prevent it from being a universal meta (maps are big, yo).

LAC/2 let me finally built my dream Arrow: 2x LAC/2 + 4x MG + 3x MedLas (3x Small X-Pulse mbmb?). I've built it using standard AC/2, but the ammo quantities left something to be desired.

Also, I think we're both overlooking the real meta here: LAC/2 Locust with ammo!

[Bombast]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 January 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

Also, I think we're both overlooking the real meta here: LAC/2 Locust with ammo!

Oh god, I may actually have to give light mechs a chance again.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 January 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

Also, I think we're both overlooking the real meta here: LAC/2 Locust with ammo!

Take that, UAC2 mist lynx!

[Y E O N N E]

Snazzy Dragon, on 14 January 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

Take that, UAC2 mist lynx!

Just you wait until Clan ProtoMech ACs...

[Bombast]

Ok, found some variants we need!

Urbanmech UM-68
LT - Small Pulse Laser
LA - Small Laser
CT - Jump Jetsx2
RA - MRM-30

Centurion CN9-D3D
LT - LRM10
RT - ERML
LA - MASC
RA - LGR
Increased Engine Cap

Centurion CN9-D4D
LT - LRM15
RT - ERML
LA - MASC
RA - LGR

Hunchback HBK-5S
Head - SL
CT/RT - LB 20-X
LA - MPL
RA - MPL
LL - Jump Jetx2
RL - Jump Jetsx2
Light Engine

I'll look for some more. I think a missile Urbie, a fast Centurion, a MASC Centurion, and a jumping Hunchback are pretty nifty, though.

Edited by Bombast, 14 January 2017 - 05:58 PM.

[El Bandito]

CK16, on 14 January 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

So here is a question, what about adding in reinforcements in as well with this mech release? Not sure if it would be possible to do one for ever current chassis (at least not on release), but what about a few? Something in like the range of 4 each (one of each weight class)

Night Gyr-H. ECM on my favorite Clan Heavy? I want.

Edited by El Bandito, 14 January 2017 - 08:27 PM.

[Requiemking]

If it wasn't for the fact that Small Cockpits probably won't be a thing, I would love to get my hands on the COM-7B. Two flamers, one ERML, two SRM4s, an LFE, and, most importantly, Jump Jets. Also, let us pay homage to that most desired of variants, the Grand Dragon.

[HGAK47]

Bombast, on 14 January 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

Ok, found some variants we need!

Urbanmech UM-68
LT - Small Pulse Laser
LA - Small Laser
CT - Jump Jetsx2
RA - MRM-30

Centurion CN9-D3D
LT - LRM10
RT - ERML
LA - MASC
RA - LGR
Increased Engine Cap

Centurion CN9-D4D
LT - LRM15
RT - ERML
LA - MASC
RA - LGR

Hunchback HBK-5S
Head - SL
CT/RT - LB 20-X
LA - MPL
RA - MPL
LL - Jump Jetx2
RL - Jump Jetsx2
Light Engine

I'll look for some more. I think a missile Urbie, a fast Centurion, a MASC Centurion, and a jumping Hunchback are pretty nifty, though.

So are those fast centies with MASC like a faster version of the current D? or just faster versions of most centurions? Would love me some ultra fast masc CN9-D like things with some of this new dakka and energy weapons stuffed in the chest.

[Cementi]

Sorry to crush peoples hopes and dreams for ATM's but they cannot even get LBX weapons to have the option for slug and cluster ammo.

I will be very surprised if they put ATM's in.

[Bombast]

HGAK47, on 14 January 2017 - 08:49 PM, said:

So are those fast centies with MASC like a faster version of the current D? or just faster versions of most centurions? Would love me some ultra fast masc CN9-D like things with some of this new dakka and energy weapons stuffed in the chest.

The Centurion CN9-D3D has the same engine as the CN9-D, plus MASC. The CN9-D4D has the same engine as the rest of the Centurions, plus MASC.

Cementi, on 14 January 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

Sorry to crush peoples hopes and dreams for ATM's but they cannot even get LBX weapons to have the option for slug and cluster ammo.

I will be very surprised if they put ATM's in.

It's been suggested that ATMs be a missile system with a ballistic damage profile - Damage bleeding, basically.